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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 9, 2020 22:05:52 GMT
Bayern and youth players😄he’d just cuddle them all and tell them how brilliant they are😄 You really don’t know me at all. I’m the cunt who doesn’t let a 4 year old win because it serves no purpose later in life 😂 Ok Dario😄
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 22:06:20 GMT
You really don’t know me at all. I’m the cunt who doesn’t let a 4 year old win because it serves no purpose later in life 😂 Ok Dario😄 That’s not funny tbh.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 9, 2020 22:07:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 22:12:27 GMT
Bayern and youth players😄he’d just cuddle them all and tell them how brilliant they are😄 You really don’t know me at all. I’m the cunt who doesn’t let a 4 year old win because it serves no purpose later in life 😂 Hopefully you’re not the only role model in the kids life. He might still have a chance if that’s the case.....
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Post by Squeekster on Jul 9, 2020 22:13:49 GMT
So come then tell us what you'd do and then pass it on and our prayers will be answered ! Play 4231. It’s what we should have been doing for fucking years. You do know this is not football manager don't you ?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 22:16:31 GMT
You really don’t know me at all. I’m the cunt who doesn’t let a 4 year old win because it serves no purpose later in life 😂 Hopefully you’re not the only role model in the kids life. He might still have a chance if that’s the case..... Why would I want kids? 😂
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 9, 2020 22:16:49 GMT
That’s bollocks. Irrespective of Chester’s showing, Collins looked completely at sea for all the time he was on the pitch. There at the back didn’t help him and Batth was crap too but he is not the bloody messiah. You’re too blinkered and have been for a long time. Sorensen looks like a fish out of water too. Collins wasn’t playing well. But Chester was much much much worse and there was no need for a sub. Sorensen has been thrown in from nowhere. More odd management. But you want to chuck N'Goy in?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 22:18:04 GMT
Play 4231. It’s what we should have been doing for fucking years. You do know this is not football manager don't you ? What has that got to do with anything? It’s the formation that is best suited to the players we have and has been for ages. Yet from Hughes (in his breakdown era) they’ve all tried the same 433 that just hasn’t worked. It’s really fucking stupid.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 22:19:45 GMT
Collins wasn’t playing well. But Chester was much much much worse and there was no need for a sub. Sorensen has been thrown in from nowhere. More odd management. But you want to chuck N'Goy in? I think there’s a massive difference between throwing a winger in than a central midfielder. Especially when you’re throwing that midfielder in with another youngish player too. There’s nowhere near the amount of responsibility with it.
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Post by leicspotter on Jul 10, 2020 7:47:44 GMT
You do know this is not football manager don't you ? What has that got to do with anything? It’s the formation that is best suited to the players we have and has been for ages. Yet from Hughes (in his breakdown era) they’ve all tried the same 433 that just hasn’t worked. It’s really fucking stupid. That's the bit i don't buy. We can't play with 1 up top, we just don't have, arguable never have had, anyone who can play that role. sadly Aguero is injured 'cos he would be good there
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 10, 2020 7:54:42 GMT
What has that got to do with anything? It’s the formation that is best suited to the players we have and has been for ages. Yet from Hughes (in his breakdown era) they’ve all tried the same 433 that just hasn’t worked. It’s really fucking stupid. That's the bit i don't buy. We can't play with 1 up top, we just don't have, arguable never have had, anyone who can play that role. sadly Aguero is injured 'cos he would be good there We can and have done and it's worked. But you need Powell behind the one and the wingers getting closer to him hence why playing Campbell out there works. It's the best option as a team. Last night you had Powell on the wing 30 yards at least from anyone. Same with Campbell on the right. Leading to a massive hole between Vokes and the central midfield that they constantly exploited.
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Post by leicspotter on Jul 10, 2020 8:06:59 GMT
That's the bit i don't buy. We can't play with 1 up top, we just don't have, arguable never have had, anyone who can play that role. sadly Aguero is injured 'cos he would be good there We can and have done and it's worked. But you need Powell behind the one and the wingers getting closer to him hence why playing Campbell out there works. It's the best option as a team. Last night you had Powell on the wing 30 yards at least from anyone. Same with Campbell on the right. Leading to a massive hole between Vokes and the central midfield that they constantly exploited. You say that, but haven't named who would play up front...Vokes? Clearly doesn't work, Campbell, too lightweight and not really that quick. Gregory or Diouf? Come on, tell us who should play, and where, in your 4231
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 10, 2020 8:13:07 GMT
We can and have done and it's worked. But you need Powell behind the one and the wingers getting closer to him hence why playing Campbell out there works. It's the best option as a team. Last night you had Powell on the wing 30 yards at least from anyone. Same with Campbell on the right. Leading to a massive hole between Vokes and the central midfield that they constantly exploited. You say that, but haven't named who would play up front...Vokes? Clearly doesn't work, Campbell, too lightweight and not really that quick. Gregory or Diouf? Come on, tell us who should play, and where, in your 4231 I'd play Diouf. I don't get why we haven't been using him now for 3/4 years. And tbh I've said and shown where I'd play these people regularly.
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Post by leicspotter on Jul 10, 2020 8:19:29 GMT
You say that, but haven't named who would play up front...Vokes? Clearly doesn't work, Campbell, too lightweight and not really that quick. Gregory or Diouf? Come on, tell us who should play, and where, in your 4231 I'd play Diouf. I don't get why we haven't been using him now for 3/4 years. And tbh I've said and shown where I'd play these people regularly. I rest my case...Mame is a spent force, which is a shame 'cos I like the guy and, in the past, he has shown a great attitude, but that stopped some time ago
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 10, 2020 8:27:02 GMT
I'd play Diouf. I don't get why we haven't been using him now for 3/4 years. And tbh I've said and shown where I'd play these people regularly. I rest my case...Mame is a spent force, which is a shame 'cos I like the guy and, in the past, he has shown a great attitude, but that stopped some time ago He's not. He's done more in his cameos than Vokes and Gregory. He's won more flick ons in the limited game time that Vokes has all season it feels. Indeed he came on and scored the winner against someone? And then was barely used again. More really weird management.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 10, 2020 8:28:26 GMT
Until Smith's braindead challenge 5 at the back was working quite well. Once we went one behind O'Neill had to change it, Collins was the least effective of the central defenders so he brought on Chester to make up the back four that were solid in the last match. Within minutes of the restart Chester got caught out ball watching and the game was over.
It wasn't the manager's decision making that was at fault it was experienced players not doing their job properly and a a dysfunctional squad with an attitude problem.
Since lockdown we have reverted to start of the season form - the common factor is the players not the manager. The one thing that gives us any chance of avoiding relegation is O'Neill who has shown on several occasions that he's capable of getting a result out of these players even after a heavy defeat.
Constantly blaming the manager is just completely misunderstanding the problem. And in your case deflecting from the fact that your current hero was actually pretty average - which to be fair is to be expected at this point in his development.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 10, 2020 9:21:36 GMT
Until Smith's braindead challenge 5 at the back was working quite well. Once we went one behind O'Neill had to change it, Collins was the least effective of the central defenders so he brought on Chester to make up the back four that were solid in the last match. Within minutes of the restart Chester got caught out ball watching and the game was over. It wasn't the manager's decision making that was at fault it was experienced players not doing their job properly and a a dysfunctional squad with an attitude problem. Since lockdown we have reverted to start of the season form - the common factor is the players not the manager. The one thing that gives us any chance of avoiding relegation is O'Neill who has shown on several occasions that he's capable of getting a result out of these players even after a heavy defeat. Constantly blaming the manager is just completely misunderstanding the problem. And in your case deflecting from the fact that your current hero was actually pretty average - which to be fair is to be expected at this point in his development. He didn’t have to change anything. We had the same team out for a 4231. If he wanted to change just switch the formation. Batth was way worse imo. The common thing is the formation. Hero? Please. And if anything last night showed that he was doing more for the defence than not 👍😂 MON has been awful since the resumption. He has only picked a balance side once. Every issue we have had since the resumption is down to tactics. He’s played Collins at right back twice. He’s played Powell on the left wing in 3 games. He’s played McClean on the right. How do you expect to win with shit like that going on? It’s madness. And the problem has been the same for the last 4 years. Managers playing 433 when it's what their predecessor did and it didn't work. Why they think it will work this time is anyone's guess.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 10, 2020 9:29:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 9:32:49 GMT
Apart from the moving Campbell back in the middle quip, Pej is spot on. Ludicrous management at this stage of the season. Keep it simple, stick to what you know works and manage the players.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 10, 2020 9:36:54 GMT
Apart from the moving Campbell back in the middle quip, Pej is spot on. Ludicrous management at this stage of the season. Keep it simple, stick to what you know works and manage the players. I like MON but I just can't fathom his thought process since the resumption. As soon as I saw the Reading side I knew what was coming and it happened. But he's done that before and changed it and learned. So I expected that. We get to Boro and we have Powell on the left, McClean on the right and Thompson and Sorensen as your CMs. And it was a real moment of anger. That team was never going to win. He has set us up to fail in 3 out of 4 of the biggest games in his career.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 9:41:54 GMT
Apart from the moving Campbell back in the middle quip, Pej is spot on. Ludicrous management at this stage of the season. Keep it simple, stick to what you know works and manage the players. I like MON but I just can't fathom his thought process since the resumption. As soon as I saw the Reading side I knew what was coming and it happened. But he's done that before and changed it and learned. So I expected that. We get to Boro and we have Powell on the left, McClean on the right and Thompson and Sorensen as your CMs. And it was a real moment of anger. That team was never going to win. He has set us up to fail in 3 out of 4 of the biggest games in his career. I agree with you and also like the bloke. It's obvious to a blind man the miracles he's worked thus far but also obvious to the ridiculous management since returning. He deserves special praise for how he has got Powell and Campbell working so far with very limited time. He isnt above criticism though and placing any individual above criticism is dangerous in this game.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 9:43:23 GMT
Apart from the moving Campbell back in the middle quip, Pej is spot on. Ludicrous management at this stage of the season. Keep it simple, stick to what you know works and manage the players. If only he'd have followed his own advice during his disastrous spell as manager of Chester, he might still be in a job.......
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 10, 2020 9:44:49 GMT
I like MON but I just can't fathom his thought process since the resumption. As soon as I saw the Reading side I knew what was coming and it happened. But he's done that before and changed it and learned. So I expected that. We get to Boro and we have Powell on the left, McClean on the right and Thompson and Sorensen as your CMs. And it was a real moment of anger. That team was never going to win. He has set us up to fail in 3 out of 4 of the biggest games in his career. I agree with you and also like the bloke. It's obvious to a blind man the miracles he's worked thus far but also obvious to the ridiculous management since returning. He deserves special praise for how he has got Powell and Campbell working so far with very limited time. He isnt above criticism though and placing any individual above criticism is dangerous in this game. Definitely. And when I see a team that I don't expect to function not function I struggle to blame the players. They have been set up to fail by the maanger for me. It doesn't mean I don't think they aren't above criticism, they've been shit on the whole but they haven't been given the best chance to succeed and that just isn't on.
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Post by lordb on Jul 10, 2020 11:12:25 GMT
When the same players make the same basic errors under several different managers that tells you all you need to know
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Post by leicspotter on Jul 10, 2020 14:47:09 GMT
I rest my case...Mame is a spent force, which is a shame 'cos I like the guy and, in the past, he has shown a great attitude, but that stopped some time ago He's not. He's done more in his cameos than Vokes and Gregory. He's won more flick ons in the limited game time that Vokes has all season it feels. Indeed he came on and scored the winner against someone? And then was barely used again. More really weird management. In your world maybe. The reality is that Mame is not the answer, and couldn't play as a lone striker anyway. Your "feelings" are hardly evidence are they
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