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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 20:44:58 GMT
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Nothing or no one else has been a bigger issue than the manager and his decisions.
I know he got the damn illness but that can’t have made him forget the basics?
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 9, 2020 20:47:37 GMT
MON Nothing or no one else has been a bigger issue than the manager and his decisions. I know he got the damn illness but that can’t have made him forget the basics? The team as a collective have been miles worse. If he sent them out and told them to just go at it they wouldn’t have done much worse. Shower of wankers virtually to a man
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Post by neddy on Jul 9, 2020 20:48:12 GMT
And pray tell what basics he got wrong today with the squad he’s got.....losing Allen has been the killer post lock down in my view.....I think we’d have been comfortable had he been fit!?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 20:49:12 GMT
MON Nothing or no one else has been a bigger issue than the manager and his decisions. I know he got the damn illness but that can’t have made him forget the basics? The team as a collective have been miles worse. If he sent them out and told them to just go at it they wouldn’t have done much worse. Shower of wankers virtually to a man He hasn’t selected a starting XI in a decent formation for any game though bar Barnsley. He is setting them up to fail.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 20:50:14 GMT
And pray tell what basics he got wrong today with the squad he’s got.....losing Allen has been the killer post lock down in my view.....I think we’d have been comfortable had he been fit!? You’re kidding right? Why go to a 3 at the back? Fucking awful decision. Then he made the worst tactical sub we’ve seen from a Stoke manager in how many years?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 9, 2020 20:51:05 GMT
The loss of your mate Joe Allen
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Post by neddy on Jul 9, 2020 20:51:14 GMT
And pray tell what basics he got wrong today with the squad he’s got.....losing Allen has been the killer post lock down in my view.....I think we’d have been comfortable had he been fit!? You’re kidding right? Why go to a 3 at the back? Fucking awful decision. Then he made the worst tactical sub we’ve seen from a Stoke manager in how many years? I don’t agree with your opening post so we’ll leave it there...
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Post by BuzzB on Jul 9, 2020 20:51:54 GMT
The team as a collective have been miles worse. If he sent them out and told them to just go at it they wouldn’t have done much worse. Shower of wankers virtually to a man He hasn’t selected a starting XI in a decent formation for any game though bar Barnsley. He is setting them up to fail. I don't think he is, this just shows how limited, basic and talentless the squad is, perm any 11 from 20 odd and off you go.
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 9, 2020 20:51:54 GMT
And pray tell what basics he got wrong today with the squad he’s got.....losing Allen has been the killer post lock down in my view.....I think we’d have been comfortable had he been fit!? He subbed off Bayern’s hero
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 20:52:36 GMT
The team as a collective have been miles worse. If he sent them out and told them to just go at it they wouldn’t have done much worse. Shower of wankers virtually to a man He hasn’t selected a starting XI in a decent formation for any game though bar Barnsley. He is setting them up to fail. So he got the team right against Barnsley when we won and wrong in all the other games when we didn’t, with zero responsibility for the players or their decision making? Easy this management lark......
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 20:52:55 GMT
You’re kidding right? Why go to a 3 at the back? Fucking awful decision. Then he made the worst tactical sub we’ve seen from a Stoke manager in how many years? I don’t agree with your opening post so we’ll leave it there... He’s set the team up to fail in 4 out of the 5 games. He’s come back a changed manager. It’s odd.
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 9, 2020 20:53:05 GMT
MON Nothing or no one else has been a bigger issue than the manager and his decisions. I know he got the damn illness but that can’t have made him forget the basics? Something has happened during lockdown. His demeanour and comments post match are nothing like we saw earlier in the year.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 20:53:21 GMT
He hasn’t selected a starting XI in a decent formation for any game though bar Barnsley. He is setting them up to fail. So he got the team right against Barnsley when we won and wrong in all the other games when we didn’t. Easy this management lark...... Yes and it was commented on before each game 👍
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 9, 2020 20:53:37 GMT
The team as a collective have been miles worse. If he sent them out and told them to just go at it they wouldn’t have done much worse. Shower of wankers virtually to a man He hasn’t selected a starting XI in a decent formation for any game though bar Barnsley. He is setting them up to fail. Bollocks Bayern, they are unaccountable mercenaries. They don’t fuckin care, literally not a jot Butland doesn’t even now want to pretend he cares, shrugs his shoulders couldn’t give a fuck
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 20:54:04 GMT
And pray tell what basics he got wrong today with the squad he’s got.....losing Allen has been the killer post lock down in my view.....I think we’d have been comfortable had he been fit!? He subbed off Bayern’s hero Which turned out to be one of the worst subs by a Stoke manager ever really. It was awful.
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 9, 2020 20:54:20 GMT
I don’t agree with your opening post so we’ll leave it there... He’s set the team up to fail in 4 out of the 5 games. He’s come back a changed manager. It’s odd. I’d agree against Wigan. In the other games we simply haven’t been good enough and won one easily.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 20:54:50 GMT
He hasn’t selected a starting XI in a decent formation for any game though bar Barnsley. He is setting them up to fail. Bollocks Bayern, they are unaccountable mercenaries. They don’t fuckin care, literally not a jot Butland doesn’t even now want to pretend he cares, shrugs his shoulders couldn’t give a fuck It’s not. Play them in a 4231 and leave it there.
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 9, 2020 20:55:32 GMT
He subbed off Bayern’s hero Which turned out to be one of the worst subs by a Stoke manager ever really. It was awful. It didn’t make a jot of difference. Both were poor and we lose the game heavily either way.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 20:57:16 GMT
He’s set the team up to fail in 4 out of the 5 games. He’s come back a changed manager. It’s odd. I’d agree against Wigan. In the other games we simply haven’t been good enough and won one easily. He played McClean on the right against Boro. What moron would ever think that’s something to try? Collins at right back not once but twice!! The reason because Chester is small - his words! Don’t play Chester then 😂 With the teams he selected in each game it was obvious what would happen. He hasn’t used them correctly on the whole. Like tonight why fuck around with it?
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 9, 2020 20:57:34 GMT
He subbed off Bayern’s hero Which turned out to be one of the worst subs by a Stoke manager ever really. It was awful. Hindsight and all that Bayern While I would have definitely left Collins on, there were plenty on the match day thread saying he should have been subbed. Worst sub ever!!! Dial down the drama queen...🤣
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 20:57:44 GMT
So he got the team right against Barnsley when we won and wrong in all the other games when we didn’t. Easy this management lark...... Yes and it was commented on before each game 👍 Well that’s on the basis that we would have won the other games playing 4-2-3-1. Which of course we’ll never know if that’s true or not......
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 20:58:06 GMT
Which turned out to be one of the worst subs by a Stoke manager ever really. It was awful. It didn’t make a jot of difference. Both were poor and we lose the game heavily either way. It made a massive difference! His replacement came on and it was 2 within a minute and we got worse and worse 😂
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 9, 2020 20:58:20 GMT
Infact I’d go as far to say if Joe had stayed fit we’d be safe now 😄there you go Bayern just for you
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 20:59:04 GMT
Which turned out to be one of the worst subs by a Stoke manager ever really. It was awful. Hindsight and all that Bayern While I would have definitely left Collins on, there were plenty on the match day thread saying he should have been subbed. Worst sub ever!!! Dial down the drama queen...🤣 Hindsight? We didn’t need a sub. If there was to be one Batth was playing worse. And what other sub has ever seen such a downturn? It was awful.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 20:59:41 GMT
Infact I’d go as far to say if Joe had stayed fit we’d be safe now 😄there you go Bayern just for you 😂😂if the fucker was sold when we were relegated we might have got back up
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 21:01:01 GMT
Hindsight and all that Bayern While I would have definitely left Collins on, there were plenty on the match day thread saying he should have been subbed. Worst sub ever!!! Dial down the drama queen...🤣 Hindsight? We didn’t need a sub. If there was to be one Batth was playing worse. And what other sub has ever seen such a downturn? It was awful. O’Neill didn’t hack down Costa as he ran away from goal. Nor did he miss chance after chance against Middlesbrough when we were 1-0 down......
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 9, 2020 21:01:22 GMT
Infact I’d go as far to say if Joe had stayed fit we’d be safe now 😄there you go Bayern just for you And I’ll stir it a bit more, if we’d fucked Ince off a lot earlier we’d be safe...🤣
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 21:02:33 GMT
Hindsight? We didn’t need a sub. If there was to be one Batth was playing worse. And what other sub has ever seen such a downturn? It was awful. O’Neill didn’t hack down Costa as he ran away from goal. Nor did he miss chance after chance against Middlesbrough when we were 1-0 down...... Tommy Smith shouldn’t really be playing. His treatment of Edwards again, wank. We deserved fuck all against Boro.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 21:02:37 GMT
Infact I’d go as far to say if Joe had stayed fit we’d be safe now 😄there you go Bayern just for you That would involve acknowledging just what a vital part of our improvement under O’Neill Joe Allen has been though......
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 9, 2020 21:02:38 GMT
It didn’t make a jot of difference. Both were poor and we lose the game heavily either way. It made a massive difference! His replacement came on and it was 2 within a minute and we got worse and worse 😂 He was like a little lad lost in the first half. You’ve got to start seeing things for what they are. Collins has potential and I’d like to see him do well for us, but he’s still miles away from being a solid championship defender. Not excusing Chester either. For an experienced defender he was a disgrace as was the other donkey Batth.
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