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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 21:43:44 GMT
You constantly saying “Allen isn’t an issue” doesn’t mean anything. So now you’re blaming him for playing McClean as well, who’s playing on the left of those 4-2-3-1 then? I’d play Ngoy but there we go. He’d have buried at least one of those chances. Not signing a winger in January was daft. Maybe Ngoy has to look in the mirror and ask himself why he’s not in the 20 man squad each week, same as Tom Edwards.....
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 21:44:31 GMT
I’d play Ngoy but there we go. He’d have buried at least one of those chances. Not signing a winger in January was daft. Maybe Ngoy has to look in the mirror and ask himself why he’s not in the 20 man squad each week, same as Tom Edwards..... Because the manager is making a right pigs ear of it. So many decisions he’s messing up. It’s heart breaking.
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Post by butlerstbob on Jul 9, 2020 21:44:38 GMT
The Manager.. He's been awful since lockdown? Or the players have been awful, come back unfit unprepared and frankly don't give a fuck?? I blame the players all day all week all month long! Their attitude stinks, it stunk before lockdown and it stinks now! He’s set them up to fail with his starting lineups. Anyone expecting anything from the set up is mad. I actually think its much deeper, I think these wankers have let him down massively and in more ways than one and he is just running out of patients with them. They can't all be bad managers
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 9, 2020 21:47:42 GMT
No Allen, lost 10 days on the training pitch due to Coronavirus, missed loads of chances to get back in the game against Middlesbrough. It’s not black and white. Yes it’s not been his finest couple of weeks, but with this squad I’m prepared to cut him some slack...... Allen isn’t an issue. Our team miss loads of chances. If you play McClean expect him to miss easy chances. Why have sympathy there? He’s massively fucked this up. He’s the biggest issue but you’re to myopic to see it
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 21:49:16 GMT
He’s set them up to fail with his starting lineups. Anyone expecting anything from the set up is mad. I actually think its much deeper, I think these wankers have let him down massively and in more ways than one and he is just running out of patients with them. They can't all be bad managers They’ve all tried the same things we know dont work hoping to get different results. I’d call that bad. I think there are clear issues that run indeed I was laughed at when I said the club are rotten to the core. We clearly are but seeing managers do the same thing and expecting different results is really tiresome.
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 9, 2020 21:49:34 GMT
You constantly saying “Allen isn’t an issue” doesn’t mean anything. So now you’re blaming him for playing McClean as well, who’s playing on the left of those 4-2-3-1 then? I’d play Ngoy but there we go. He’d have buried at least one of those chances. Not signing a winger in January was daft. N’Goy ffs. Another academy no mark who you have a boner for.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jul 9, 2020 21:50:35 GMT
He subbed off Bayern’s hero Which turned out to be one of the worst subs by a Stoke manager ever really. It was awful. That’s bollocks. Irrespective of Chester’s showing, Collins looked completely at sea for all the time he was on the pitch. There at the back didn’t help him and Batth was crap too but he is not the bloody messiah. You’re too blinkered and have been for a long time. Sorensen looks like a fish out of water too.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 21:51:12 GMT
Allen isn’t an issue. Our team miss loads of chances. If you play McClean expect him to miss easy chances. Why have sympathy there? He’s massively fucked this up. He’s the biggest issue but you’re to myopic to see it He’s not. It was easily in the games where we needed to get the points from. Instead he misused our best player this season, played our best attacking player on the left wing and had two young players trying to play central midfield. It was a situation that has been 20 times worse by the manager.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 9, 2020 21:51:14 GMT
I’d play Ngoy but there we go. He’d have buried at least one of those chances. Not signing a winger in January was daft. N’Goy ffs. Another academy no mark who you have a boner for. Exactly mate and I think O’Neill saw enough of his cameo at QPR
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 9, 2020 21:52:24 GMT
He’s the biggest issue but you’re to myopic to see it He’s not. It was easily in the games where we needed to get the points from. Instead he misused our best player this season, played our best attacking player on the left wing and had two young players trying to play central midfield. It was a situation that has been 20 times worse by the manager. We have no midfield without Allen
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 21:52:24 GMT
Which turned out to be one of the worst subs by a Stoke manager ever really. It was awful. That’s bollocks. Irrespective of Chester’s showing, Collins looked completely at sea for all the time he was on the pitch. There at the back didn’t help him and Batth was crap too but he is not the bloody messiah. You’re too blinkered and have been for a long time. Sorensen looks like a fish out of water too. Collins wasn’t playing well. But Chester was much much much worse and there was no need for a sub. Sorensen has been thrown in from nowhere. More odd management.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 21:52:47 GMT
He’s not. It was easily in the games where we needed to get the points from. Instead he misused our best player this season, played our best attacking player on the left wing and had two young players trying to play central midfield. It was a situation that has been 20 times worse by the manager. We have no midfield without Allen We didn’t have one with him 😂
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 9, 2020 21:53:56 GMT
We have no midfield without Allen We didn’t have one with him 😂 I think many including the manager would disagree
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 9, 2020 21:54:31 GMT
Bayern 100% right
Everyone else just doesn’t understand
Lock the thread 😎
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 21:55:38 GMT
Maybe Ngoy has to look in the mirror and ask himself why he’s not in the 20 man squad each week, same as Tom Edwards..... Because the manager is making a right pigs ear of it. So many decisions he’s messing up. It’s heart breaking. You don’t see them in training, he does. If you think MON choosing Collins at right back over Edwards isn’t a reflection on Edwards himself then I would suggest you’re wrong.....
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 21:56:22 GMT
We didn’t have one with him 😂 I think many including the manager would disagree You keep saying this and the manager keeps getting stuff wrong. We haven’t had a midfield since 2016. Allen has been an awful signing for us and we’ve only backwards with him in the side. He needed replacing irrespective. Not with Jordan Thompson though 😂
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 21:56:59 GMT
Bayern 100% right Everyone else just doesn’t understand Lock the thread 😎 Pretty much yes. See the last 5 years. You’d think you would learn tbh.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 21:58:11 GMT
Because the manager is making a right pigs ear of it. So many decisions he’s messing up. It’s heart breaking. You don’t see them in training, he does. If you think MON choosing Collins at right back over Edwards isn’t a reflection on Edwards himself then I would suggest you’re wrong..... Ah the training bullshit argument. The last bastion of no hope. I see them where it matters. I think only a moron would pick Collins at right back under any circumstance.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 9, 2020 22:00:08 GMT
Bayern 100% right Everyone else just doesn’t understand Lock the thread 😎 Pretty much yes. See the last 5 years. You’d think you would learn tbh. Think you should manage a kiddies league team and work your way up the ranks. You’re obviously a genius and it shouldn’t take long 😎
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 9, 2020 22:00:18 GMT
I think many including the manager would disagree You keep saying this and the manager keeps getting stuff wrong. We haven’t had a midfield since 2016. Allen has been an awful signing for us and we’ve only backwards with him in the side. He needed replacing irrespective. Not with Jordan Thompson though 😂 Since O’Neill became manager he’s been arguably our best player
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 22:00:31 GMT
We didn’t have one with him 😂 I think many including the manager would disagree Actually this was your only defence for Butland 😂😂more great judgment.
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Post by Squeekster on Jul 9, 2020 22:00:57 GMT
l We kept a clean sheet against Barnsley..... Yes of course. I think the others are right though. The average position of the teams we have played is the biggest concern to me. We are well and truly in the shit and the manager has been a pretty much a disaster area since resumption in my eyes. Whilst I do like MON and think he is the man to take us forward, we don't know what state of fitness or mentality of the players on return to the resumption, most of us will agree if we'd of carried on without the break we were definitely on the up and moving in the right direction. Now weather his tactics have been poor or he is picking a team based on fitness and attitude we don't know. For me next season what ever division we are in I want MON in charge and I'll judge him when he's had a good shot at it and not a season where he came in already way behind the black ball!
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 9, 2020 22:01:05 GMT
You don’t see them in training, he does. If you think MON choosing Collins at right back over Edwards isn’t a reflection on Edwards himself then I would suggest you’re wrong..... Ah the training bullshit argument. The last bastion of no hope. I see them where it matters. I think only a moron would pick Collins at right back under any circumstance. You obviously haven’t been watching Ince where it matters then 😭
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 9, 2020 22:01:22 GMT
Pretty much yes. See the last 5 years. You’d think you would learn tbh. Think you should manage a kiddies league team and work your way up the ranks. You’re obviously a genius and it shouldn’t take long 😎 Bayern and youth players😄he’d just cuddle them all and tell them how brilliant they are😄
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jul 9, 2020 22:01:48 GMT
You don’t see them in training, he does. If you think MON choosing Collins at right back over Edwards isn’t a reflection on Edwards himself then I would suggest you’re wrong..... Ah the training bullshit argument. The last bastion of no hope. I see them where it matters. I think only a moron would pick Collins at right back under any circumstance. And you want MON to stay? You’re not making sense.
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Post by Squeekster on Jul 9, 2020 22:02:47 GMT
I actually think its much deeper, I think these wankers have let him down massively and in more ways than one and he is just running out of patients with them. They can't all be bad managers They’ve all tried the same things we know dont work hoping to get different results. I’d call that bad. I think there are clear issues that run indeed I was laughed at when I said the club are rotten to the core. We clearly are but seeing managers do the same thing and expecting different results is really tiresome. So come then tell us what you'd do and then pass it on and our prayers will be answered !
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 22:03:20 GMT
Ah the training bullshit argument. The last bastion of no hope. I see them where it matters. I think only a moron would pick Collins at right back under any circumstance. And you want MON to stay? You’re not making sense. Why not! Sums this place up. You can criticise and still not one someone sacked ffs. He has however been awful since the resumption.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 22:04:03 GMT
They’ve all tried the same things we know dont work hoping to get different results. I’d call that bad. I think there are clear issues that run indeed I was laughed at when I said the club are rotten to the core. We clearly are but seeing managers do the same thing and expecting different results is really tiresome. So come then tell us what you'd do and then pass it on and our prayers will be answered ! Play 4231. It’s what we should have been doing for fucking years.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 22:04:39 GMT
You don’t see them in training, he does. If you think MON choosing Collins at right back over Edwards isn’t a reflection on Edwards himself then I would suggest you’re wrong..... Ah the training bullshit argument. The last bastion of no hope. I see them where it matters. I think only a moron would pick Collins at right back under any circumstance. You don’t see Edwards or Ngoy where it matters at all. You have in the past, but you’ve seen nothing of them of late.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 22:05:09 GMT
Think you should manage a kiddies league team and work your way up the ranks. You’re obviously a genius and it shouldn’t take long 😎 Bayern and youth players😄he’d just cuddle them all and tell them how brilliant they are😄 You really don’t know me at all. I’m the cunt who doesn’t let a 4 year old win because it serves no purpose later in life 😂
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