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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 1, 2020 12:19:39 GMT
Weren’t they took over not long ago? They were took over by a Hong Kong consortium about a month ago
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jul 1, 2020 12:20:24 GMT
NTT20 on twitter claiming they may be able to get around it by saying COViD has provided unforeseen circumstances.
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Post by borges on Jul 1, 2020 12:20:44 GMT
Worryingly (from our perspective) they've still got Barnsley, Hull and Charlton to play. If Wigan maintain their current form they could well still survive with a 12 pt deduction, but if that form drops off a cliff as a result of this, it could see teams around us pick up 3 points far more easily than they might have expected. Better for them to be in the mix needing results than mentally on the beach though surely? Wigan, or the other relegation candidates? I think Wigan beating the aforementioned teams does more for us than them filling a relegation spot, but it's all a moot point of we ourselves don't win/draw more than we lose in the remaining games.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 1, 2020 12:21:44 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 1, 2020 12:22:02 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 1, 2020 12:23:28 GMT
www.efl.com/news/2020/july/efl-statement-wigan-athletic/As a result of Wigan Athletic confirming they have entered into administration, the Club will be subject to a 12-point deduction and, in accordance with EFL Regulations, the timing of the sporting sanction can only be determined once final league placings in the Championship are determined.
If in the event the Club is relegated by virtue of their final position following the conclusion of the Championship season, then the deduction will apply in League One in 2020/21. However, if the Club is not in the relegation places following the final game of season, the sanction will be then be applied to their season 2019/20 total and final league standings amended as appropriate. The EFL is awaiting formal notification from the Administrators and once the League has received this it will commence discussions with the relevant individuals with the aim of achieving a long-term future for the Club.
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Post by datguy on Jul 1, 2020 12:24:00 GMT
They were ace last night though let’s be honest, it doesn’t take much.
All this talk of a ‘saving grace’ is barmy. They still stay up and finish above us even with a 12-point deduction. As do Sheff Wed.
And anyway: won’t the point deduction be next season? (Genuine qu)*
*should have waited 30 secs before posting this!
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Post by somersetstokie on Jul 1, 2020 12:24:12 GMT
Whatever happens now this could be another big wake up call to everybody. NO ONE is immune as the list of clubs in difficulty starts to grow.
I have got nothing against Wigan, who are a fairly inoffensive club, so its really bad luck for them.
However on the economic front in general, and not just in football, we have got to July 1st and there seems to be a string of announcements from some big name companies of closures, redundancies and cut backs. I think we are on the edge of a huge financial storm.
I did also hear a comment that as of today, unless something temporary is agreed, up to 1,000 footballers across Europe could be out of contract.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 12:25:33 GMT
NTT20 on twitter claiming they may be able to get around it by saying COViD has provided unforeseen circumstances. This is going to open a right can of worms though. Can you say Team X, Y or Z shouldn't be relegated because of COVID related exceptional circumstances. Our manager was asked to self isolate for 7 days whilst trying to prepare for a restart. That's COVID related. Should we then not be relegated because it's not fair? All clubs agreed to restart the season on amended terms. I'd be amazed if the amended terms included an administration caveat.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 1, 2020 12:26:27 GMT
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Post by stokeykez on Jul 1, 2020 12:26:34 GMT
They will have to enforce this as it will set the precedent that you can go into admin and you will not be penalised
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Post by zerps on Jul 1, 2020 12:28:21 GMT
12 point deduction for going into administration. Very sad to this happening to clubs, could well be the first of many over the coming months. Yeah but it’s the only chance we have of staying up 🤭
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 12:29:03 GMT
So now the maths is easy. Stay above two other teams and within 12 points of Wigan.
I bet we naff it up.
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Post by mickey2693 on Jul 1, 2020 12:29:17 GMT
12 point deduction for going into administration. Very sad to this happening to clubs, could well be the first of many over the coming months. Yeah but it’s the only chance we have of staying up 🤭 They'll probably still finish above us
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Post by sheds1862 on Jul 1, 2020 12:30:26 GMT
Just had a quick wiki Their record transfer purchase was Charles N'Zogbia in 2009 for 7 million. Offset by selling Valencia for 16 million to United.
Never struck me as a club throwing money at silly wages so I'm quite surprised at this news
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Post by stokeykez on Jul 1, 2020 12:30:34 GMT
It will apply at the end of the season. If in drop zone will be next season deduction if not will be taken off at the end of season. Let's hope they dont get higher than 12 points from drop zone
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 12:30:51 GMT
Better for them to be in the mix needing results than mentally on the beach though surely? Wigan, or the other relegation candidates? I think Wigan beating the aforementioned teams does more for us than them filling a relegation spot, but it's all a moot point of we ourselves don't win/draw more than we lose in the remaining games. If Wigan go down to 38 points, with the form they're in they'll still be confident of beating Barnsley, Hull and Charlton and staying up. Whatever happens though it's meaningless if we don't grind out a couple of wins from somewhere....
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Post by stokeykez on Jul 1, 2020 12:33:26 GMT
Wigan, or the other relegation candidates? I think Wigan beating the aforementioned teams does more for us than them filling a relegation spot, but it's all a moot point of we ourselves don't win/draw more than we lose in the remaining games. If Wigan go down to 38 points, with the form they're in they'll still be confident of beating Barnsley, Hull and Charlton and staying up. Whatever happens though it's meaningless if we don't grind out a couple of wins from somewhere.... This may just have a bearing on the mentality, either spur them on further or go against them, others will be motivated to beat them, apart from us of course
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Post by juiceandbits on Jul 1, 2020 12:34:08 GMT
Talk about an absolute, one-in-a-million, if cruel for Wigan, lifeline for our club.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 12:35:06 GMT
Haven’t they waited until 1st July to do this so that it doesn’t impact the current season?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 1, 2020 12:35:50 GMT
Definitely gives us a fighting chance now.
This one sim has it reducing our relegation chances from 32% to 18%
And has Wigan at 83% as opposed to 0%!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 1, 2020 12:36:56 GMT
So now the maths is easy. Stay above two other teams and within 12 points of Wigan. I bet we naff it up. They’ll still finish above us,9 unbeaten,7 without conceding 🤔
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Post by dingdongbell on Jul 1, 2020 12:37:16 GMT
That takes Wigan straight to the bottom of the league then, though obviously might not apply straight away, could be a bit yet. A possibility that, by default, we have been spared. What plan does God have for our club?Then you are assuming that we will finish as high as 3rd bottom , don’t count on it .
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Post by datguy on Jul 1, 2020 12:37:39 GMT
Talk about an absolute, one-in-a-million, if cruel for Wigan, lifeline for our club. How embarrassing would it be if we stay up because of this though? We’ll take it but we don’t deserve it...
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jul 1, 2020 12:38:02 GMT
Quick, buy up all their players. I'd take that Morsy in midfield, and Lowe up top for certain!!!
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Post by borges on Jul 1, 2020 12:38:20 GMT
Wigan, or the other relegation candidates? I think Wigan beating the aforementioned teams does more for us than them filling a relegation spot, but it's all a moot point of we ourselves don't win/draw more than we lose in the remaining games. If Wigan go down to 38 points, with the form they're in they'll still be confident of beating Barnsley, Hull and Charlton and staying up. Whatever happens though it's meaningless if we don't grind out a couple of wins from somewhere.... From my understanding of what's been posted above, the 12 point deduction only comes in after the conclusion of the season, so if Wigan can increase the points gap between them and 21st place to >12 points by the end of the season (bearing in mind they're already 8 ahead of Hull, who are currently 21st) they could still stay up, even with the points deduction. I think we're making the same point though - we need to get some wins ourselves and Wigan should have the motivation to beat the teams around us!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 1, 2020 12:43:57 GMT
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Post by sheds1862 on Jul 1, 2020 12:43:59 GMT
Deduction confirmed by the EFL so effectively on 38 points 5 behind us
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jul 1, 2020 12:44:28 GMT
Definitely gives us a fighting chance now. This one sim has it reducing our relegation chances from 32% to 18% And has Wigan at 83% as opposed to 0%! He is right - they are the form team and could easily see a good haul of points so long as their players are not mentally affected by the news from that run in
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Post by skelman on Jul 1, 2020 12:46:22 GMT
12 point reduction confirmed placing Wigan bottom!
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