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Post by sticky on Jul 30, 2024 7:15:25 GMT
Tough one isn’t it, if you’ve got somebody with the mentality of that piece of shit I don’t see what you can do tbh.. I was on about the more general attitude of people carrying knifes, it’s got to stop. Tougher sentences, better education, more stop and search (I’ve read on here a few times people posting it doesn’t work) I don’t believe that, and if it upsets a certain demographic of the population being stopped and searched then I’m afraid that’s tough shit. It’s got to start somewhere and now. Been able to go and buy a crossbow/ zombie knife etc shouldn’t be possible. What the fuck would anybody want one for anyway? There’s not much you can do really is there? Tougher punishments don’t really stop people doing stuff. We don’t know this persons reasons for doing this so it’s difficult to even start there. I think mental health services in this country have to be better. More people need more support and as poverty becomes worse it will only get worse. That to me seems like the only workable solution. You need to end poverty and that will make for a healthier population physically and mentally. It won’t stop attacks but it would definitely see a decrease. I don’t agree with that Bayern, a tougher sentence will make people think twice about carrying a knife again. It also gives the public a bit more reassurance that things are being taken seriously. Plus it should give more time for a prison scheme to educate and train prisoners to do something more meaningful with there life. To continually blame mental health as the reason is quite insulting to the families. Poverty of course needs addressing like a lot of other things in this country that don’t work properly I wasn’t alive after the war and through the bad recessions, but were people getting knifed all the time? And were kids being stabbed? There’s massive problems in this country and the majority of folk have simply had enough, but nothing will change and we’ll sleep walk into the next attack
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 30, 2024 7:23:05 GMT
There’s not much you can do really is there? Tougher punishments don’t really stop people doing stuff. We don’t know this persons reasons for doing this so it’s difficult to even start there. I think mental health services in this country have to be better. More people need more support and as poverty becomes worse it will only get worse. That to me seems like the only workable solution. You need to end poverty and that will make for a healthier population physically and mentally. It won’t stop attacks but it would definitely see a decrease. I don’t agree with that Bayern, a tougher sentence will make people think twice about carrying a knife again. It also gives the public a bit more reassurance that things are being taken seriously. Plus it should give more time for a prison scheme to educate and train prisoners to do something more meaningful with there life. To continually blame mental health as the reason is quite insulting to the families. Poverty of course needs addressing like a lot of other things in this country that don’t work properly I wasn’t alive after the war and through the bad recessions, but were people getting knifed all the time? And were kids being stabbed? There’s massive problems in this country and the majority of folk have simply had enough, but nothing will change and we’ll sleep walk into the next attack But would it? You get tougher sentences for murder and it’s still more common than it should be etc. Prisons are understaffed and over populated as it is. There’s no time or money to do that. I think the education needs to come before and part of the plan to decrease poverty. It’s the only thing imo that will help properly and not just with this issue. How is it insulting? If people aren’t getting the treatment they need then they are more likely to commit crime. It’s pretty simple. There’s always been murder and attacks. It would be interesting to see the numbers but I think the prevalence of it on social media now makes people think it’s much worse than it was. But I have nothing to back that up bar my perception.
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Post by sticky on Jul 30, 2024 7:54:46 GMT
I don’t agree with that Bayern, a tougher sentence will make people think twice about carrying a knife again. It also gives the public a bit more reassurance that things are being taken seriously. Plus it should give more time for a prison scheme to educate and train prisoners to do something more meaningful with there life. To continually blame mental health as the reason is quite insulting to the families. Poverty of course needs addressing like a lot of other things in this country that don’t work properly I wasn’t alive after the war and through the bad recessions, but were people getting knifed all the time? And were kids being stabbed? There’s massive problems in this country and the majority of folk have simply had enough, but nothing will change and we’ll sleep walk into the next attack But would it? You get tougher sentences for murder and it’s still more common than it should be etc. Prisons are understaffed and over populated as it is. There’s no time or money to do that. I think the education needs to come before and part of the plan to decrease poverty. It’s the only thing imo that will help properly and not just with this issue. How is it insulting? If people aren’t getting the treatment they need then they are more likely to commit crime. It’s pretty simple. There’s always been murder and attacks. It would be interesting to see the numbers but I think the prevalence of it on social media now makes people think it’s much worse than it was. But I have nothing to back that up bar my perception. I just find stating “mental health” as a reason, is just a blanket term to cover up any number of fuck ups tbh. And let’s not kid ourselves, as a society things get worse by the year. I’d agree with you that social media doesn’t help. What concerns me the most is someone gets stabbed, and it barely raises an eyebrow anymore. The soldier getting stabbed the other is a prime example. Years ago it would of been a much bigger deal, nowadays it gets a headline for a few hours and then the next stabbing takes over. Things need to change and until people wake up and accept there’s a massive problem I fear things will continue or even get worse. All about opinions I suppose.. that’s just mine
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jul 30, 2024 7:59:44 GMT
There’s not much you can do really is there? Tougher punishments don’t really stop people doing stuff. We don’t know this persons reasons for doing this so it’s difficult to even start there. I think mental health services in this country have to be better. More people need more support and as poverty becomes worse it will only get worse. That to me seems like the only workable solution. You need to end poverty and that will make for a healthier population physically and mentally. It won’t stop attacks but it would definitely see a decrease. I don’t agree with that Bayern, a tougher sentence will make people think twice about carrying a knife again. It also gives the public a bit more reassurance that things are being taken seriously. Plus it should give more time for a prison scheme to educate and train prisoners to do something more meaningful with there life. To continually blame mental health as the reason is quite insulting to the families. Poverty of course needs addressing like a lot of other things in this country that don’t work properly I wasn’t alive after the war and through the bad recessions, but were people getting knifed all the time? And were kids being stabbed? There’s massive problems in this country and the majority of folk have simply had enough, but nothing will change and we’ll sleep walk into the next attack Unfortunately, this isn't just about carrying knives. If somebody today wanted to go out and do the same thing as that bastard yesterday, then they would. It's not a knife problem, it's a human problem. There will always be humans capable of doing this sort of thing, for whatever sick reason. I don't think the potential punishment comes into it. In the broader scheme of things, carrying a knife or any weapon at all should carry longer sentences, but it wouldn't stop things like this happening I don't think. I hope everyone involved gets all the help they need. Their lives really won't be the same again, and that could have been any one of us or our kids.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 30, 2024 8:01:26 GMT
But would it? You get tougher sentences for murder and it’s still more common than it should be etc. Prisons are understaffed and over populated as it is. There’s no time or money to do that. I think the education needs to come before and part of the plan to decrease poverty. It’s the only thing imo that will help properly and not just with this issue. How is it insulting? If people aren’t getting the treatment they need then they are more likely to commit crime. It’s pretty simple. There’s always been murder and attacks. It would be interesting to see the numbers but I think the prevalence of it on social media now makes people think it’s much worse than it was. But I have nothing to back that up bar my perception. I just find stating “mental health” as a reason, is just a blanket term to cover up any number of fuck ups tbh. And let’s not kid ourselves, as a society things get worse by the year. I’d agree with you that social media doesn’t help. What concerns me the most is someone gets stabbed, and it barely raises an eyebrow anymore. The soldier getting stabbed the other is a prime example. Years ago it would of been a much bigger deal, nowadays it gets a headline for a few hours and then the next stabbing takes over. Things need to change and until people wake up and accept there’s a massive problem I fear things will continue or even get worse. All about opinions I suppose.. that’s just mine Because that’s what mental health is 🤣 And the services in this country for it are underfunded and absolutely shit. And I don’t agree that they are. Like with Serps I think that’s over dramatic nonsense tbh. I think it’s driven by right wing dog whistlers to create the racist bile we saw on here yesterday. I think it’s disgusting. Re the soldier I can only presume that the person that did it was very vulnerable, very unstable and it helps no one to say who it is. Not everything is terror and Muslims can be legitimately mentally unwell.
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Post by phileetin on Jul 30, 2024 8:29:13 GMT
lets be tolerant like good brits .
fuck off
lets not
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Post by wannabee on Jul 30, 2024 8:36:09 GMT
lets be tolerant like good brits . fuck off lets not How do you think we should express our intolerance Phil?
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Post by sticky on Jul 30, 2024 8:40:51 GMT
I just find stating “mental health” as a reason, is just a blanket term to cover up any number of fuck ups tbh. And let’s not kid ourselves, as a society things get worse by the year. I’d agree with you that social media doesn’t help. What concerns me the most is someone gets stabbed, and it barely raises an eyebrow anymore. The soldier getting stabbed the other is a prime example. Years ago it would of been a much bigger deal, nowadays it gets a headline for a few hours and then the next stabbing takes over. Things need to change and until people wake up and accept there’s a massive problem I fear things will continue or even get worse. All about opinions I suppose.. that’s just mine Because that’s what mental health is 🤣 And the services in this country for it are underfunded and absolutely shit. And I don’t agree that they are. Like with Serps I think that’s over dramatic nonsense tbh. I think it’s driven by right wing dog whistlers to create the racist bile we saw on here yesterday. I think it’s disgusting. Re the soldier I can only presume that the person that did it was very vulnerable, very unstable and it helps no one to say who it is. Not everything is terror and Muslims can be legitimately mentally unwell. Not sure what’s funny about the mental health comment tbh Bayern. I certainly recognise mental health and would never undermine what it can do. My point was putting out a “mental health” comment as a reason for atrocities to covers up mishandling at every junction. It’ll be used more and more by people from now on. Maybe the copper who booted that bloke in the airport should use it as his defence?
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Post by phileetin on Jul 30, 2024 9:22:33 GMT
lets be tolerant like good brits . fuck off lets not How do you think we should express our intolerance Phil? shoot holes in the fucking boats for a start
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Post by wannabee on Jul 30, 2024 9:40:48 GMT
How do you think we should express our intolerance Phil? shoot holes in the fucking boats for a start Are there many Boats in Cardiff?
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Post by Gods on Jul 30, 2024 9:50:40 GMT
They had a grainy video on ITV this morning of a dude in a green hoody and I think a face mask it was hard to tell, taken from a door cam opposite the building where the police arrived. I presume this is our man, or should I say boy. Apart from thinking he looks quite tall I couldn't tell anything else about him. Anyone else see that?
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Post by phileetin on Jul 30, 2024 9:52:51 GMT
wow , so fucking clever , i bet if you'd been in southport yesterday you'd have been stood on the sidelines with your mobile phone videoing it like those cunts at manchester airport ?
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Post by henry on Jul 30, 2024 9:53:33 GMT
They had a grainy video on ITV this morning of a dude in a green hoody and I think a face mask it was hard to tell, taken from a door cam opposite the building where the police arrived. I presume this is our man, or should I say boy. Apart from thinking he looks quite tall I couldn't tell anything else about him. Anyone else see that? Face coverings in public, another great by product of the covid nonsense.
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Post by phileetin on Jul 30, 2024 9:53:42 GMT
shoot holes in the fucking boats for a start Are there many Boats in Cardiff? wow , so fucking clever , i bet if you'd been in southport yesterday you'd have been stood on the sidelines with your mobile phone videoing it like those cunts at manchester airport ?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 30, 2024 9:54:22 GMT
shoot holes in the fucking boats for a start Are there many Boats in Cardiff? Quite a few on the River Taff getting the ball back on 20/20 nights at Sophia Gardens
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Post by milton58 on Jul 30, 2024 9:57:25 GMT
Are there many Boats in Cardiff? wow , so fucking clever , i bet if you'd been in southport yesterday you'd have been stood on the sidelines with your mobile phone videoing it like those cunts at manchester airport ? don't rise to it fella half of the people on here are blinkered
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 30, 2024 10:04:02 GMT
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Post by ian57 on Jul 30, 2024 10:04:52 GMT
I can’t believe that Yvette cooper has not tendered her resignation yet. A soldier stabbed, police officers attacked at Manchester airport and now this horrific attack on innocent children resulting in lives being lost and all on her watch. Do the decent thing and go.
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Post by callas12 on Jul 30, 2024 10:09:55 GMT
They had a grainy video on ITV this morning of a dude in a green hoody and I think a face mask it was hard to tell, taken from a door cam opposite the building where the police arrived. I presume this is our man, or should I say boy. Apart from thinking he looks quite tall I couldn't tell anything else about him. Anyone else see that? Yeah I'd posted about it on here last night mate, featured on the late ITV News yesterday. Strange to acting suspicious around that house for a while before going in a taxi to the attack venue. Definitely makes me think this was more of a targeted attack than just something random. Was he hoping to find someone at the house and when not there went off looking for someone?! As you say, definitely not the quality to positively identify anyone but at least maps his movements prior to the attack. The offender at the Incident scene was wearing a mask according to the mechanic eye witness next door and the person on the footage is clear wearing a hoodie with hood up and surgical mask on. Very strange clothing choice on a warm & sunny day!
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Post by flea79 on Jul 30, 2024 10:26:54 GMT
Can’t believe there is argument over just who the attacker was and what his motives might have been…
How about we just stand in solidarity at the horror of what has happened here and utterly condemn this barbarous and cowardly act
Vis unita fortior
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jul 30, 2024 10:29:59 GMT
They had a grainy video on ITV this morning of a dude in a green hoody and I think a face mask it was hard to tell, taken from a door cam opposite the building where the police arrived. I presume this is our man, or should I say boy. Apart from thinking he looks quite tall I couldn't tell anything else about him. Anyone else see that? Face coverings in public, another great by product of the covid nonsense. All those in parliament who supported masks and lockdowns should have been dealt with severely. They can never be forgiven.
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Post by kingdong on Jul 30, 2024 10:35:45 GMT
According to the BBC the suspect was born in Cardiff which kind of blows a huge hole in the he came on a boat argument.
Some people are so quick to jump to the wrong conclusions…
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jul 30, 2024 10:38:02 GMT
Have a day off with your shite twitter links. You embarrassed yourself enough with them yesterday getting duped by some fake news account, when children have been murdered. Same goes for everyone and the twitter links, sick of seeing them. FullerMagic should be the only poster allowed on twitter.
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Post by wannabee on Jul 30, 2024 10:50:36 GMT
Are there many Boats in Cardiff? wow , so fucking clever , i bet if you'd been in southport yesterday you'd have been stood on the sidelines with your mobile phone videoing it like those cunts at manchester airport ? A horrendously tragic situation unfolded in Southport with a lot of people grieving You sticking your oar in making a totally irrelevant point to suit your agenda isn't helpful
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Post by dutchstokie on Jul 30, 2024 10:58:30 GMT
He should get life in prison with daily paper cuts. A bed of nails would be too much comfort. He could spend 50+ years in prison at the tax payers expense, what is the point? We have overcrowded prisons, the cost to watch him will be very high, we have to feed him 3 times a day, clothe him. We will get the bill to burn him when he dies too. He's just going to be another drain on money we don't have. Certain people should be taken out. Bang wrong....he should be shot - end of. Getting fed up of this pussy footing around .....
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Post by salopstick on Jul 30, 2024 11:03:54 GMT
and they want to give under 18s the vote The law should not allow you to be treated as a child when you are committing murder but then allow you to vote as an adult. That aside its heartbreaking. wtf is happening to this country
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Post by Eggybread on Jul 30, 2024 11:07:20 GMT
He should get life in prison with daily paper cuts. A bed of nails would be too much comfort. He could spend 50+ years in prison at the tax payers expense, what is the point? We have overcrowded prisons, the cost to watch him will be very high, we have to feed him 3 times a day, clothe him. We will get the bill to burn him when he dies too. He's just going to be another drain on money we don't have. Certain people should be taken out. Ffs this board is toxic atm. So youre advocating murdering a murderer.Does it act as a deterrent in the USA?
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Post by cheadlepotter on Jul 30, 2024 11:07:28 GMT
Killer has Rwandan parents. Third child now dead.
Latest from BBC website
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Post by henry on Jul 30, 2024 11:10:56 GMT
Killer has Rwandan parents. Third child now dead. Latest from BBC website RIP Heartbreaking
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 30, 2024 11:15:00 GMT
Killer has Rwandan parents. Third child now dead. Latest from BBC website Another tragedy. RIP to the latest victim.
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