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Jul 29, 2024 21:09:14 GMT
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Post by milton58 on Jul 29, 2024 21:09:14 GMT
Just going off the sky news thread on the net
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2024 21:34:50 GMT
This is horrific, like many others on here I have an 8 year old daughter who will be attending lots of events over the Summer Holidays, and the chill that has gone up my spine today is something I didn't think I would ever experience in Britain. This is pure evil. *I have seen a few posts of twitter regarding a shortage of O-type blood (nationally). I'm almost ashamed to admit I've never given blood but i'll be registering tonight. Donated my first pint in May I think, am booked for next week. It didn’t hurt and you get free crisps and chocolate. You get told which hospital it’s gone to which I found cool too. Definitely worth doing if you can: www.blood.co.uk/
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Jul 29, 2024 21:37:04 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2024 21:37:04 GMT
You might want to take this down once you've checked it. Might be false information mate. it's not he lives in a village where the population is 4k but he was on a watch list you couldn't make this shit up ffs It’s looking like that’s exactly what could have happened though?
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Post by wannabee on Jul 29, 2024 21:41:32 GMT
Good old Welsh name The bastard should be hung,those poor kids and family😢😢 This has already been confirmed to be incorrect The suspect named was born in Cardiff Tonight is a time for reflection, as an atheist I won't say prayer but for those that receive consolation from it I don't begrudge It's beyond comprehension the grief the parents of those who have been Murdered and their wider family and friends. What can be done is the hope that the Surgeons and Medical Staff who are caring for those Critically injured have all the resources they need. The Families, relatives and friends of those Murdered or injured will require Psychiatric/Grief Counciling as will the Emergency Service Personnel and Police who were obliged to respond to a horrific scene In a less emotionally charged atmosphere those that have responsibility to keep British Citizens safe need to review all aspects of what causes a British Born Citizen become so detached and unstable that they behave in such an extreme fashion. It has been reported that this individual was "known to Mental Health Services and Mi6" The usual "Lessons Learned" is unacceptable A Report with corrective actions, not in 2 or 3 years times calling out warts and all what corrective actions need to happen What isn't helpful is posting premature and incorrect Twitter links that only tend to pour petrol on a fire and reinforce conformation bias
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2024 21:41:36 GMT
What measures would people suggest? More controls over knife sales? Difficult thing to control, every house has knives however there are some pretty nasty looking knives that really shouldn't be on general sale or even controlled sales I don't know a single detail about the perpetrator so can't comment re motivation Tough one isn’t it, if you’ve got somebody with the mentality of that piece of shit I don’t see what you can do tbh.. I was on about the more general attitude of people carrying knifes, it’s got to stop. Tougher sentences, better education, more stop and search (I’ve read on here a few times people posting it doesn’t work) I don’t believe that, and if it upsets a certain demographic of the population being stopped and searched then I’m afraid that’s tough shit. It’s got to start somewhere and now. Been able to go and buy a crossbow/ zombie knife etc shouldn’t be possible. What the fuck would anybody want one for anyway? There’s not much you can do really is there? Tougher punishments don’t really stop people doing stuff. We don’t know this persons reasons for doing this so it’s difficult to even start there. I think mental health services in this country have to be better. More people need more support and as poverty becomes worse it will only get worse. That to me seems like the only workable solution. You need to end poverty and that will make for a healthier population physically and mentally. It won’t stop attacks but it would definitely see a decrease.
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 29, 2024 21:46:43 GMT
Good old Welsh name The bastard should be hung,those poor kids and family😢😢 This has already been confirmed to be incorrect The suspect named was born in Cardiff Tonight is a time for reflection, as an atheist I won't say prayer but for those that receive consolation from it I don't begrudge It's beyond comprehension the grief the parents of those who have been Murdered and their wider family and friends. What can be done is the hope that the Surgeons and Medical Staff who are caring for those Critically injured have all the resources they need. The Families, relatives and friends of those Murdered or injured will require Psychiatric/Grief Counciling as will the Emergency Service Personnel and Police who were obliged to respond to a horrific scene In a less emotionally charged atmosphere those that have responsibility to keep British Citizens safe need to review all aspects of what causes a British Born Citizen become so detached and unstable that they behave in such an extreme fashion. It has been reported that this individual was "known to Mental Health Services and Mi6" The usual "Lessons Learned" is unacceptable A Report with corrective actions, not in 2 or 3 years times calling out warts and all what corrective actions need to happen What isn't helpful is posting premature and incorrect Twitter links that only tend to pour petrol on a fire and reinforce conformation bias The suspect hasn't been named at all and probably won't be as they are 17. The part about them being on an MI6 watchlist is being touted by the same made up news account that made up his name.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 29, 2024 21:49:47 GMT
What an awful day.
So many people’s lives will never be the same again.
Thoughts and prayers go out to the victims, their families and all those affected by todays events.
We shouldn’t forget those emergency services that were first on scene whether it’s the paramedics, Police or fire. Let’s hope they get the support they deserve because however much training you get it’s never prepared them for what they’ve seen today.
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Post by desman2 on Jul 29, 2024 21:56:23 GMT
Ive just watched a video where some have stated they were eyewitnesses yet not one description of this twat who got out of a taxi and refused to pay .
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Post by wannabee on Jul 29, 2024 22:03:39 GMT
This has already been confirmed to be incorrect The suspect named was born in Cardiff Tonight is a time for reflection, as an atheist I won't say prayer but for those that receive consolation from it I don't begrudge It's beyond comprehension the grief the parents of those who have been Murdered and their wider family and friends. What can be done is the hope that the Surgeons and Medical Staff who are caring for those Critically injured have all the resources they need. The Families, relatives and friends of those Murdered or injured will require Psychiatric/Grief Counciling as will the Emergency Service Personnel and Police who were obliged to respond to a horrific scene In a less emotionally charged atmosphere those that have responsibility to keep British Citizens safe need to review all aspects of what causes a British Born Citizen become so detached and unstable that they behave in such an extreme fashion. It has been reported that this individual was "known to Mental Health Services and Mi6" The usual "Lessons Learned" is unacceptable A Report with corrective actions, not in 2 or 3 years times calling out warts and all what corrective actions need to happen What isn't helpful is posting premature and incorrect Twitter links that only tend to pour petrol on a fire and reinforce conformation bias The suspect hasn't been named at all and probably won't be as they are 17. The part about them being on an MI6 watchlist is being touted by the same made up news account that made up his name. Thanks, I don't think him being 17 and born in Cardiff is in dispute and was the main point I was trying to make I.e. he is a product of a British upbringing not some imported Boat Person which has been the general narrative tonight by some. I'd also be massively surprised if he hasn't somehow had some interaction with Mental Health Services. Depending on what his "issues" may have been it would not be surprising if they were not shared due to safeguarding. But your right I should take my own advice and wait for Official Confirmation.
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Stabbings
Jul 29, 2024 22:04:35 GMT
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 29, 2024 22:04:35 GMT
Ive just watched a video where some have stated they were eyewitnesses yet not one description of this twat who got out of a taxi and refused to pay . If the video was on Facebook, twitter or tik tok then there's a 99% chance the people saying they were eye witnesses probably live in a different area of the country and never set foot in Southport
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 29, 2024 22:06:31 GMT
The suspect hasn't been named at all and probably won't be as they are 17. The part about them being on an MI6 watchlist is being touted by the same made up news account that made up his name. Thanks, I don't think him being 17 and born in Cardiff is in dispute and was the main point I was trying to make I.e. he is a product of a British upbringing not some imported Boat Person which has been the general narrative tonight by some. I'd also be massively surprised if he hasn't somehow had some interaction with Mental Health Services. Depending on what his "issues" may have been it would not be surprising if they were not shared due to safeguarding. But your right I should take my own advice and wait for Official Confirmation. Yeah the only thing confirmed is 17 year old born in Cardiff. Nothing else confirmed. But if you look on Twitter the made up name is still trending number 1 and it's just full of racist idiots believing it. Amazing how that is the number 1 trend and not the fact that innocent children were attacked.
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Jul 29, 2024 22:13:15 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2024 22:13:15 GMT
The suspect hasn't been named at all and probably won't be as they are 17. The part about them being on an MI6 watchlist is being touted by the same made up news account that made up his name. Thanks, I don't think him being 17 and born in Cardiff is in dispute and was the main point I was trying to make I.e. he is a product of a British upbringing not some imported Boat Person which has been the general narrative tonight by some. I'd also be massively surprised if he hasn't somehow had some interaction with Mental Health Services. Depending on what his "issues" may have been it would not be surprising if they were not shared due to safeguarding. But your right I should take my own advice and wait for Official Confirmation. It was absolutely in dispute. Did you miss the 3 pages of racist bile?
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Jul 29, 2024 22:17:01 GMT
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Post by Gods on Jul 29, 2024 22:17:01 GMT
Thanks, I don't think him being 17 and born in Cardiff is in dispute and was the main point I was trying to make I.e. he is a product of a British upbringing not some imported Boat Person which has been the general narrative tonight by some. I'd also be massively surprised if he hasn't somehow had some interaction with Mental Health Services. Depending on what his "issues" may have been it would not be surprising if they were not shared due to safeguarding. But your right I should take my own advice and wait for Official Confirmation. Yeah the only thing confirmed is 17 year old born in Cardiff. Nothing else confirmed. But if you look on Twitter the made up name is still trending number 1 and it's just full of racist idiots believing it. Amazing how that is the number 1 trend and not the fact that innocent children were attacked. Played too many poisonous video games? Who knows.
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Jul 29, 2024 22:17:59 GMT
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Post by musik on Jul 29, 2024 22:17:59 GMT
Do anyone know yet who the sicko was?
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Jul 29, 2024 22:19:38 GMT
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Post by musik on Jul 29, 2024 22:19:38 GMT
Ive just watched a video where some have stated they were eyewitnesses yet not one description of this twat who got out of a taxi and refused to pay . And then right after that started to stab kids?
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Post by wannabee on Jul 29, 2024 22:37:18 GMT
Thanks, I don't think him being 17 and born in Cardiff is in dispute and was the main point I was trying to make I.e. he is a product of a British upbringing not some imported Boat Person which has been the general narrative tonight by some. I'd also be massively surprised if he hasn't somehow had some interaction with Mental Health Services. Depending on what his "issues" may have been it would not be surprising if they were not shared due to safeguarding. But your right I should take my own advice and wait for Official Confirmation. It was absolutely in dispute. Did you miss the 3 pages of racist bile? Don't be a prat I was replying to stokiejoe89's reply to my post who correctly said that it has not been confirmed that the suspect was on an Mi6 watchlist. I reconfirmed in my reply to him that it was undisputed that the suspect is 17 and born in Cardiff which was my main point and contrary to the wild speculation that the suspect was a Boat Asylum Seeker. Of course I read the Racist bile but chose not to engage with it.
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Post by desman2 on Jul 29, 2024 22:37:44 GMT
Ive just watched a video where some have stated they were eyewitnesses yet not one description of this twat who got out of a taxi and refused to pay . If the video was on Facebook, twitter or tik tok then there's a 99% chance the people saying they were eye witnesses probably live in a different area of the country and never set foot in Southport It was the Times and Sunday Times on you tube
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Jul 29, 2024 22:47:36 GMT
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Post by musik on Jul 29, 2024 22:47:36 GMT
Good old Welsh name The bastard should be hung,those poor kids and family😢😢 The suspect named was born in Cardiff Ok, but was it correct apart from that?
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Jul 29, 2024 22:56:27 GMT
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Post by callas12 on Jul 29, 2024 22:56:27 GMT
Anyone see the late ITV News At Ten coverage?
They had exclusive door bell camera footage that they revealed of the attacker pacing around outside a random house about 20mins before the attack took place. He's wearing a green coloured hoody and his face is covered by a surgical/covid type mask! It's not known what his link to this house is just yet but its currently being guarded by police.
This lad got into a taxi and wasn't seen again. It was once word got round as to what had happened in Southport & descriptions of the offender were circulated with his quite distinctive clothing considering the current weather conditions.
A short time after his arrest near or at the scene of the attack police can be seen on the same door bell footage arriving at the house where the alleged attacker had earlier been seen pacing around..
As more news becomes available it does seem that unfortunately this attack was possibly more pre planned or purposely carried out as opposed to being more of a random occurrence. To get a taxi from a property nearby to that location doesn't seem a chance incident.
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 29, 2024 22:58:49 GMT
The suspect named was born in Cardiff Ok, but was it correct apart from that? No, the name the article says is incorrect and made up. The only thing that is real and confirmed so far is he is 17 and born in Cardiff
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Jul 29, 2024 23:13:00 GMT
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Post by musik on Jul 29, 2024 23:13:00 GMT
Anyone see the late ITV News At Ten coverage? They had exclusive door bell camera footage that they revealed of the attacker pacing around outside a random house about 20mins before the attack took place. He's wearing a green coloured hoody and his face is covered by a surgical/covid type mask! It's not known what his link to this house is just yet but its currently being guarded by police. This lad got into a taxi and wasn't seen again. It was once word got round as to what had happened in Southport & descriptions of the offender were circulated with his quite distinctive clothing considering the current weather conditions. A short time after his arrest near or at the scene of the attack police can be seen on the same door bell footage arriving at the house where the alleged attacker had earlier been seen pacing around.. As more news becomes available it does seem that unfortunately this attack was possibly more pre planned or purposely carried out as opposed to being more of a random occurrence. To get a taxi from a property nearby to that location doesn't seem a chance incident. As I understood it, according to Swedish media he'd been at a garage too and didn't pay. The other customer there also said to him he should pay for the fixed car but he answered "what shall you do about it?" Apparently, then he took a taxi instead? What confuses me is that these stabbings happened at around 13.00 yesterday, but was on Sweden news not until midnight.
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Post by callas12 on Jul 29, 2024 23:17:31 GMT
Anyone see the late ITV News At Ten coverage? They had exclusive door bell camera footage that they revealed of the attacker pacing around outside a random house about 20mins before the attack took place. He's wearing a green coloured hoody and his face is covered by a surgical/covid type mask! It's not known what his link to this house is just yet but its currently being guarded by police. This lad got into a taxi and wasn't seen again. It was once word got round as to what had happened in Southport & descriptions of the offender were circulated with his quite distinctive clothing considering the current weather conditions. A short time after his arrest near or at the scene of the attack police can be seen on the same door bell footage arriving at the house where the alleged attacker had earlier been seen pacing around.. As more news becomes available it does seem that unfortunately this attack was possibly more pre planned or purposely carried out as opposed to being more of a random occurrence. To get a taxi from a property nearby to that location doesn't seem a chance incident. As I understood it, according to Swedish media he'd been at a garage too and didn't pay. The other customer there also said to him he should pay for the fixed car but he answered "what shall you do about it?" Apparently, then he took a taxi instead? What confuses me is that these stabbings happened at around 13.00 yesterday, but was on Sweden news not until midnight. The calls to the emergency services were received at about 11:47am UK time so the attack would have commenced a few minutes earlier. The dance class was due to conclude at 12pm so parents were starting to arrive to collect their children at about the time the emergency services were starting to arrive. Absolutely horrendous scene to arrive at and discover what's still unfolding at the place they should be collecting their children from 🫣😒
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2024 23:18:17 GMT
No. Because the picture you posted is from a made up news channel and the name is made up too 🤣 Tail well and truely between legs then😊 Awful awful day Are you going to delete the total made up racist shite?
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Post by wannabee on Jul 29, 2024 23:27:04 GMT
The suspect named was born in Cardiff Ok, but was it correct apart from that? No other than he was 17 and is in Police Custody His name, where he came from and that he was an Asylum Seeker that arrived in UK by Boat last year is categorically incorrect The claim that he was known to Liverpool Mental Health Services is highly unlikely given he lived in a completely different City and that he was on an Mi6 Watch List is almost certainly an embellishment that can't be disproved unless it is officially confirmed. It's like trying to prove a double negative. I could say he unusually had six digits on both hands from birth and though highly improbable you couldn't dispute it factually until you saw his hands. However there would be some people with a predisposition who would eagerly believe he had 6 digits on each hand and rush to tell others of this fact although they have no proof of that fact themselves
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Jul 29, 2024 23:29:37 GMT
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Post by musik on Jul 29, 2024 23:29:37 GMT
Ok, but was it correct apart from that? No other than he was 17 and is in Police Custody His name, where he came from and that he was an Asylum Seeker that arrived in UK by Boat last year is categorically incorrect The claim that he was known to Liverpool Mental Health Services is highly unlikely given he lived in a completely different City and that he was on an Mi6 Watch List is almost certainly an embellishment that can't be disproved unless it is officially confirmed. It's like trying to prove a double negative. I could say he unusually had six digits on both hands from birth and though highly improbable you couldn't dispute it factually until you saw his hands. However there would be some people with a predisposition who would eagerly believe he had 6 digits on each hand and rush to tell others of this fact although they have no proof of that fact themselves Ok, let's wait and see ...
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Post by wannabee on Jul 29, 2024 23:34:21 GMT
Ok, but was it correct apart from that? No, the name the article says is incorrect and made up. The only thing that is real and confirmed so far is he is 17 and born in Cardiff I should have read this before going into a longwinded reply
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Post by musik on Jul 29, 2024 23:36:02 GMT
It might be wise and fair to let all the siblings and parents to the (latest info here) 2 dead and 8 severly injured (including the two adults) decide what should be done with this creature, and go from mild to worse punishment of course, since it would be no point to spit him in the face when he's already been in the chip machine.
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Post by wannabee on Jul 30, 2024 0:07:26 GMT
It might be wise and fair to let all the siblings and parents to the (latest info here) 2 dead and 8 severly injured (including the two adults) decide what should be done with this creature, and go from mild to worse punishment of course, since it would be no point to spit him in the face when he's already been in the chip machine. I don't think the Shari'a Law of Qiṣāṣ would be popular with a majority on here but incongruously it may be supported by some as evidenced on this thread by a few without fully understanding what they are advocating Diyah on the other hand seems rather crass and the price of Camels is very volatile
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Post by desman2 on Jul 30, 2024 5:17:24 GMT
Ive just read where it says that this twat was arrested after they had searched his house. It kinda doesn't make sense that.
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 30, 2024 6:01:22 GMT
He should get life in prison with daily paper cuts. A bed of nails would be too much comfort.
He could spend 50+ years in prison at the tax payers expense, what is the point? We have overcrowded prisons, the cost to watch him will be very high, we have to feed him 3 times a day, clothe him. We will get the bill to burn him when he dies too. He's just going to be another drain on money we don't have. Certain people should be taken out.
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