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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 30, 2024 11:18:44 GMT
Absolutely heartbreaking 😢😢
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jul 30, 2024 11:31:13 GMT
Too close to home for me, this. I've a 10 year old, massive Taylor Swift fan (as are most girls of that age it seems) and she's at a dance holiday club next week. How can anyone carry out such a horrendous act of grotesque violence to little kids?
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Post by Los Alfareros on Jul 30, 2024 11:34:25 GMT
Tragic, the world is broken.
RIP to the children, my heart bleeds for the families.
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Post by salopstick on Jul 30, 2024 11:35:37 GMT
Too close to home for me, this. I've a 10 year old, massive Taylor Swift fan (as are most girls of that age it seems) and she's at a dance holiday club next week. How can anyone carry out such a horrendous act of grotesque violence to little kids? dont cancel it. dont let the cunts win
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Post by Gods on Jul 30, 2024 11:40:11 GMT
I am sure this chap is technically correct that the media will not be allowed to name him unless convicted. However the police have already told us enough for the public to narrow it down to one. Crudely 94,000 people in, Southport, so about 1,500 17 year olds. 50% of them male makes 750. How many of the 750 born in Cardiff? Law of averages about one. And it's probably going to be the lad who is no longer seen around his home 3 miles away in a green hoodie. What am I missing?
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jul 30, 2024 11:46:52 GMT
Horrific incident with absolutely tragic news continuing to come out.
I hope the others who are critically injured can carry on fighting.
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Post by Eggybread on Jul 30, 2024 11:55:20 GMT
I am sure this chap is technically correct that the media will not be allowed to name him unless convicted. However the police have already told us enough for the public to narrow it down to one. Crudely 94,000 people in, Southport, so about 1,500 17 year olds. 50% of them male makes 750. How many of the 750 born in Cardiff? Law of averages about one. And it's probably going to be the lad who is no longer seen around his home 3 miles away in a green hoodie. What am I missing? Why are people clambering over themselves for the lad to be named,what difference does it make?
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Post by musik on Jul 30, 2024 12:11:02 GMT
Can’t believe there is argument over just who the attacker was and what his motives might have been… How about we just stand in solidarity at the horror of what has happened here and utterly condemn this barbarous and cowardly act. Vis unita fortior In Sweden all the channels and papers from left to right only talk about the motive. Why? A wild guess would be to get a little chance to prevent this from happening again.
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Jul 30, 2024 12:12:56 GMT
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 30, 2024 12:12:56 GMT
He should get life in prison with daily paper cuts. A bed of nails would be too much comfort. He could spend 50+ years in prison at the tax payers expense, what is the point? We have overcrowded prisons, the cost to watch him will be very high, we have to feed him 3 times a day, clothe him. We will get the bill to burn him when he dies too. He's just going to be another drain on money we don't have. Certain people should be taken out. Ffs this board is toxic atm. So youre advocating murdering a murderer.Does it act as a deterrent in the USA? So what would you call someone who kills a dangerous dog? They get put down, I don't see people making much of a fuss to keep them alive. What about someone who slaughters animals for food? Let's not pretend that killing things isn't something already present in society. What makes an animals life less important than a murderers? He doesn't deserve sympathy whatever the consequence. What is the point of him now? He's just going to be an expensive burden and there's a lot like him. It's a waste of money. Let's get more money into the education system instead and into getting people off the streets. Let's put more money into helping people at the bottom build up their lives which would reduce crime and violent crimes like this. He will never contribute anything to society. People who murder people know full well what the consequences are but still do it. There is no deterrent and more often than not they get killed at the scene. I would love to know how much it will cost to keep him in prison and the potential cost. Whatever the cost it's way too much.
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Jul 30, 2024 12:19:46 GMT
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Post by musik on Jul 30, 2024 12:19:46 GMT
He should get life in prison with daily paper cuts. A bed of nails would be too much comfort. He could spend 50+ years in prison at the tax payers expense, what is the point? We have overcrowded prisons, the cost to watch him will be very high, we have to feed him 3 times a day, clothe him. We will get the bill to burn him when he dies too. He's just going to be another drain on money we don't have. Certain people should be taken out. Is he disabled? The perfect solution would be to let him work in prison to get his simple meals and simple clothing if he wants to survive. The excess money should all go to the victim's relatives. Not a single ph@cking £ should come from taxes to this, in this case or in any other case for that matter.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jul 30, 2024 12:20:42 GMT
Too close to home for me, this. I've a 10 year old, massive Taylor Swift fan (as are most girls of that age it seems) and she's at a dance holiday club next week. How can anyone carry out such a horrendous act of grotesque violence to little kids? dont cancel it. dont let the cunts win No chance
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Post by musik on Jul 30, 2024 12:23:54 GMT
It might be wise and fair to let all the siblings and parents to the (latest info here) 2 dead and 8 severly injured (including the two adults) decide what should be done with this creature, and go from mild to worse punishment of course, since it would be no point to spit him in the face when he's already been in the chip machine. I don't think the Shari'a Law of Qiṣāṣ would be popular with a majority on here but incongruously it may be supported by some as evidenced on this thread by a few without fully understanding what they are advocating Diyah on the other hand seems rather crass and the price of Camels is very volatile Wow, are these the Sharia Laws? I haven't thought about that. I'm impressed. Seriously, at midnight I was upset and let my heart speak, today I'm more calm and use my brain. Or if it's the other way round.
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Post by Gods on Jul 30, 2024 12:26:12 GMT
I am sure this chap is technically correct that the media will not be allowed to name him unless convicted. However the police have already told us enough for the public to narrow it down to one. Crudely 94,000 people in, Southport, so about 1,500 17 year olds. 50% of them male makes 750. How many of the 750 born in Cardiff? Law of averages about one. And it's probably going to be the lad who is no longer seen around his home 3 miles away in a green hoodie. What am I missing? Why are people clambering over themselves for the lad to be named,what difference does it make? Are you not the tiniest bit curious? It seems like the only way you could begin to make sense of what took place. If you got a pop-up on your phone 'Southport suspect named ' you wouldn't click the link? I recognise I have no need to know but it's in my DNA to want to know.
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 30, 2024 12:28:05 GMT
He should get life in prison with daily paper cuts. A bed of nails would be too much comfort. He could spend 50+ years in prison at the tax payers expense, what is the point? We have overcrowded prisons, the cost to watch him will be very high, we have to feed him 3 times a day, clothe him. We will get the bill to burn him when he dies too. He's just going to be another drain on money we don't have. Certain people should be taken out. Is he disabled? The perfect solution would be to let him work in prison to get his simple meals and simple clothing if he wants to survive. The excess money should all go to the victim's relatives. Not a single ph@cking £ should come from taxes to this, in this case or in any other case for that matter. They could put him in solitary confinement with a noose in the middle of the room and hope he takes the hint, that should disable him
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Post by salopstick on Jul 30, 2024 12:28:14 GMT
Why are people clambering over themselves for the lad to be named,what difference does it make? Are you not the tiniest bit curious? It seems like the only way you could begin to make sense of what took place. If you got a pop-up on your phone 'Southport suspect named ' you wouldn't click the link? I recognise I have no need to know but it's in my DNA to want to know. it also stops needless speculation of course some will claim it causes a bit of casual xenaphobia
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Post by Biblical on Jul 30, 2024 12:33:32 GMT
What a thoroughly depressing incident, I can’t even begin to comprehend what would cause a 17 year old to carry out such an atrocity.
RIP to the little ones that have died and I just hope the others fighting for their lives pull through.
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Post by musik on Jul 30, 2024 12:38:57 GMT
Joel Verite, a hero obviously. Stepped in and saved at least one kid.
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Post by musik on Jul 30, 2024 12:41:55 GMT
Is he disabled? The perfect solution would be to let him work in prison to get his simple meals and simple clothing if he wants to survive. The excess money should all go to the victim's relatives. Not a single ph@cking £ should come from taxes to this, in this case or in any other case for that matter. They could put him in solitary confinement with a noose in the middle of the room and hope he takes the hint, that should disable him Of course, as long as he performs the work.
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Post by musik on Jul 30, 2024 12:43:38 GMT
Ffs this board is toxic atm. So youre advocating murdering a murderer.Does it act as a deterrent in the USA? So what would you call someone who kills a dangerous dog? They get put down, I don't see people making much of a fuss to keep them alive. What about someone who slaughters animals for food? Let's not pretend that killing things isn't something already present in society. What makes an animals life less important than a murderers? He doesn't deserve sympathy whatever the consequence. What is the point of him now? He's just going to be an expensive burden and there's a lot like him. It's a waste of money. Let's get more money into the education system instead and into getting people off the streets. Let's put more money into helping people at the bottom build up their lives which would reduce crime and violent crimes like this. He will never contribute anything to society. People who murder people know full well what the consequences are but still do it. There is no deterrent and more often than not they get killed at the scene. I would love to know how much it will cost to keep him in prison and the potential cost. Whatever the cost it's way too much. He should be one of those building a new prison.
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Post by Eggybread on Jul 30, 2024 13:05:12 GMT
Why are people clambering over themselves for the lad to be named,what difference does it make? Are you not the tiniest bit curious? It seems like the only way you could begin to make sense of what took place. If you got a pop-up on your phone 'Southport suspect named ' you wouldn't click the link? I recognise I have no need to know but it's in my DNA to want to know. I dont think a name is going to give any clues as to why he did what he did.But many just want a name and a coloured face so 2+2=5.
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Post by Gods on Jul 30, 2024 13:15:22 GMT
Are you not the tiniest bit curious? It seems like the only way you could begin to make sense of what took place. If you got a pop-up on your phone 'Southport suspect named ' you wouldn't click the link? I recognise I have no need to know but it's in my DNA to want to know. I dont think a name is going to give any clues as to why he did what he did.But many just want a name and a coloured face so 2+2=5. Once named you get far more than a name though don't you? I suppose we are all amateur sleuths and psycho-analysts, and very impatient, I am anyway.
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Post by salopstick on Jul 30, 2024 13:21:51 GMT
Are you not the tiniest bit curious? It seems like the only way you could begin to make sense of what took place. If you got a pop-up on your phone 'Southport suspect named ' you wouldn't click the link? I recognise I have no need to know but it's in my DNA to want to know. I dont think a name is going to give any clues as to why he did what he did.But many just want a name and a coloured face so 2+2=5. bingo
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Post by wannabee on Jul 30, 2024 13:29:28 GMT
Why are people clambering over themselves for the lad to be named,what difference does it make? Are you not the tiniest bit curious? It seems like the only way you could begin to make sense of what took place. If you got a pop-up on your phone 'Southport suspect named ' you wouldn't click the link? I recognise I have no need to know but it's in my DNA to want to know. I agree it is normal to have curiosity and as Salop says if only to stop the endless speculation Unfortunately if/when he is named it will just lead to more speculation and theories God forbid Mental Health is mentioned to spark further debate none of which will centre on an examination of Mental Health Services in UK A High Level Police Report last week described violence against Women and Girls in UK as a National Epidemic caused barely a ripple and none that I saw questioning if there is something basically wrong in the fabric of UK Society and it's Educational System
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Post by gawa on Jul 30, 2024 13:37:50 GMT
I support rehabilitation of all criminals - even cunts like this. It's a matter of principle for me.
Like others have said having someone locked up for life at tax payers expense isn't worth the bill.
But an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
The main thing is presentation of similar events moving forward. Lots of people mentioning mental health. Maybe those who advocate for that should be looking at the cause rather than treating the symptom. Why are more and more people depressed?
Anyway I know it's an unpopular opinion but rehab is something I hold strong views on.
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Post by desman2 on Jul 30, 2024 13:38:57 GMT
If we didn't get authorities gaslighting the population all the time, their would be no speculating.
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Post by shakermaker on Jul 30, 2024 13:47:37 GMT
Ffs this board is toxic atm. So youre advocating murdering a murderer.Does it act as a deterrent in the USA? So what would you call someone who kills a dangerous dog? They get put down, I don't see people making much of a fuss to keep them alive. What about someone who slaughters animals for food? Let's not pretend that killing things isn't something already present in society. What makes an animals life less important than a murderers? He doesn't deserve sympathy whatever the consequence. What is the point of him now? He's just going to be an expensive burden and there's a lot like him. It's a waste of money. Let's get more money into the education system instead and into getting people off the streets. Let's put more money into helping people at the bottom build up their lives which would reduce crime and violent crimes like this. He will never contribute anything to society. People who murder people know full well what the consequences are but still do it. There is no deterrent and more often than not they get killed at the scene. I would love to know how much it will cost to keep him in prison and the potential cost. Whatever the cost it's way too much. Prisons should be a sufficient deterrent if they weren't like 3* hotels. The brutality of prison life is also not put in the public domain enough in my opinion. Prisons should be hell on earth, a punishment worse than death. You should be crammed with four others in a cell, made to shit on the same bog, and eating shite food for the rest of your life. Stories of inmates being gang raped and some ending up with boiled sugar water in their faces if they don't tow the line are common stories, but we as the public should be made to see them. There should be public notice ads and trailers in cinemas showing graphically what your existence would be in prison if you decide to stick knives into kids. In this world of wokerati human rights though, prisoners have rights to a Christmas Dinner!
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Post by Gods on Jul 30, 2024 14:05:58 GMT
If we didn't get authorities gaslighting the population all the time, their would be no speculating. This one does feel somehow different. We've just witnessed one of the most grotesque and heinous crimes in our modern history. The authorities know who did it but the public are not going to be told because the suspect is in some technical way a child. Honestly, I don't know how I feel about that. You can't bend the law to suit circumstances or it is not the law at all. But at the same time if we are not told the potential for unrest is high and for speculation, well its off the scale.
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Post by desman2 on Jul 30, 2024 14:46:55 GMT
If we didn't get authorities gaslighting the population all the time, their would be no speculating. This one does feel somehow different. We've just witnessed one of the most grotesque and heinous crimes in our modern history. The authorities know who did it but the public are not going to get told because the suspect is in some technical way a child. Honestly, I don't know how I feel about that. You can't bend the law to suit circumstances or it is not the law at all. But at the same time if we are not told the potential for unrest is high and for speculation, well its off the scale. Exactly. We are told this person is 17. I've seen questions being asked as to whether they have said that to deflect from disclosing who this person is. This morning I read an article where it stated that this person was arrested after his home was searched. That in itself doesn't really make sense but if its true then it most certainly opens up more questions. It's all over the place when it comes to information. The ones you are suppose to trust have become the distrusted and that's a problem.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 30, 2024 14:48:42 GMT
So so sad😢😢
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jul 30, 2024 15:05:52 GMT
Six, seven and nine.
Fucking Jesus Christ.
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