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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2020 15:56:53 GMT
Excellent news. A full summer of cricket....
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 11, 2020 16:10:53 GMT
Great news. And Pakistan are used to playing in empty stadiums
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Post by followyoudown on Jun 11, 2020 16:13:49 GMT
Does anyone know if England are carrying any injuries going into the series? I know Rory Burns and Jimmy Anderson has long term injuries, are they now fit? Bearing this in mind, what do we think will be England’s starting 11? It's a tough one as they currently have a 55 man training squad so whether they'll blood new players or stick with the regulars is debatable. I know Wood is definitely missing, and although Archer and Burns are in the squad I'm not sure they will be match ready. So It will be something like; Crawley Sibley Denly Root Stokes Pope Buttler Woakes Bess Broad Anderson I would blood a few and go with something like: Crawley Sibley Malan Root Stokes Pope Foakes Woakes Broad Mahmood Virdi Malan ?! They do say people are drinking more during lockdown Apart from him not being very good I think they'll go with someone younger probably Lawrence from Essex as Joe Clarke is still on the naughty step, I'd give Banton a go as wicketkeeper better to get him into redball before he starts playing too much 20/20.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2020 16:24:36 GMT
It's a tough one as they currently have a 55 man training squad so whether they'll blood new players or stick with the regulars is debatable. I know Wood is definitely missing, and although Archer and Burns are in the squad I'm not sure they will be match ready. So It will be something like; Crawley Sibley Denly Root Stokes Pope Buttler Woakes Bess Broad Anderson I would blood a few and go with something like: Crawley Sibley Malan Root Stokes Pope Foakes Woakes Broad Mahmood Virdi Malan ?! They do say people are drinking more during lockdown Apart from him not being very good I think they'll go with someone younger probably Lawrence from Essex as Joe Clarke is still on the naughty step, I'd give Banton a go as wicketkeeper better to get him into redball before he starts playing too much 20/20. I'd quite happily see Malan given a second chance. His temperament was spot on and he appears to have corrected his technical deficiency of getting squared up and edging to slips. I's only play him in a straight shoot out with Denly who gets bogged down and struggles to hit it off the square at times. Foakes deserves a run in the team, he's the best gloveman in England by far......
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 11, 2020 16:27:53 GMT
They need the money. It’s as simple as that. Actually it's not quite as simple as that. Some of the touring party have IPL and other lucrative T20 contracts and will be comfortably well off so could have quite easily refused to tour for their own safety. The West Indian board might be skint, but some of the players aren't, so credit to them...... Can you point out who in the Windies squad has an IPL contract in 2020 (taken from the BBC)? West Indies squad: Jason Holder (captain), Jermaine Blackwood, Nkrumah Bonner, Kraigg Brathwaite, Shamarh Brooks, John Campbell, Roston Chase, Rahkeem Cornwall, Shane Dowrich, Chemar Holder, Shai Hope, Alzarri Joseph, Raymon Reifer, Kemar Roach.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2020 16:32:52 GMT
Actually it's not quite as simple as that. Some of the touring party have IPL and other lucrative T20 contracts and will be comfortably well off so could have quite easily refused to tour for their own safety. The West Indian board might be skint, but some of the players aren't, so credit to them...... Can you point out who in the Windies squad has an IPL contract in 2020 (taken from the BBC)? West Indies squad: Jason Holder (captain), Jermaine Blackwood, Nkrumah Bonner, Kraigg Brathwaite, Shamarh Brooks, John Campbell, Roston Chase, Rahkeem Cornwall, Shane Dowrich, Chemar Holder, Shai Hope, Alzarri Joseph, Raymon Reifer, Kemar Roach. It should have said "have had" Kemar Roach has played in the IPL, as has Jason Holder as well as other T20 tournaments around the world. They certainly won't be short of a bob or two. Braithwaite has played regular county cricket as an overseas pro. I certainly wouldn't have blamed them if they chose not to travel......
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Post by followyoudown on Jun 11, 2020 17:00:45 GMT
Malan ?! They do say people are drinking more during lockdown Apart from him not being very good I think they'll go with someone younger probably Lawrence from Essex as Joe Clarke is still on the naughty step, I'd give Banton a go as wicketkeeper better to get him into redball before he starts playing too much 20/20. I'd quite happily see Malan given a second chance. His temperament was spot on and he appears to have corrected his technical deficiency of getting squared up and edging to slips. I's only play him in a straight shoot out with Denly who gets bogged down and struggles to hit it off the square at times. Foakes deserves a run in the team, he's the best gloveman in England by far...... Not as wank as Denly i'll give you that, I think Denly's test career is over his part time spin kept him in for the sri lanka tour that never was now thats gone I hope they go for someone younger. Foakes is probably the best but then that never did Chris Read much good, again with Foakes its his age Buttler will get this summer or most of it, his talent should see him nail a place down but he just cant seem to put consistent test performances together, I'd just go for someone younger to give them a longer run. Edit didnt realise he was only 27 ok its because there are too many southerners in the team and I'd rather a somerset player got a go.
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Post by followyoudown on Jun 11, 2020 17:05:43 GMT
Can you point out who in the Windies squad has an IPL contract in 2020 (taken from the BBC)? West Indies squad: Jason Holder (captain), Jermaine Blackwood, Nkrumah Bonner, Kraigg Brathwaite, Shamarh Brooks, John Campbell, Roston Chase, Rahkeem Cornwall, Shane Dowrich, Chemar Holder, Shai Hope, Alzarri Joseph, Raymon Reifer, Kemar Roach. It should have said "have had" Kemar Roach has played in the IPL, as has Jason Holder as well as other T20 tournaments around the world. They certainly won't be short of a bob or two. Braithwaite has played regular county cricket as an overseas pro. I certainly wouldn't have blamed them if they chose not to travel...... Joseph had a replacement contract for last season he's a strange one saw his debut looked like he was going to be a hell of a player but doesnt seem to have pushed on.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 11, 2020 17:08:59 GMT
Two decent players amongst that lot. Holder and Hope. If we don’t absolutely wipe the floor with them it’ll be embarrassing😉
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 11, 2020 17:18:40 GMT
Can you point out who in the Windies squad has an IPL contract in 2020 (taken from the BBC)? West Indies squad: Jason Holder (captain), Jermaine Blackwood, Nkrumah Bonner, Kraigg Brathwaite, Shamarh Brooks, John Campbell, Roston Chase, Rahkeem Cornwall, Shane Dowrich, Chemar Holder, Shai Hope, Alzarri Joseph, Raymon Reifer, Kemar Roach. It should have said "have had" Kemar Roach has played in the IPL, as has Jason Holder as well as other T20 tournaments around the world. They certainly won't be short of a bob or two. Braithwaite has played regular county cricket as an overseas pro. I certainly wouldn't have blamed them if they chose not to travel...... The board need money. Likewise most of the players do to. And that’s fine. It’s a perfectly good motivation to tour. Interestingly there are 16 or so Windies players contracted for this year’s IPL and while some are now T20 specialists (Gayle, Pollard, Narine etc) several are upcoming players who I would have expected to see in this touring party - like Hetmeyer and Thomas.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 11, 2020 17:37:09 GMT
It should have said "have had" Kemar Roach has played in the IPL, as has Jason Holder as well as other T20 tournaments around the world. They certainly won't be short of a bob or two. Braithwaite has played regular county cricket as an overseas pro. I certainly wouldn't have blamed them if they chose not to travel...... The board need money. Likewise most of the players do to. And that’s fine. It’s a perfectly good motivation to tour. Interestingly there are 16 or so Windies players contracted for this year’s IPL and while some are now T20 specialists (Gayle, Pollard, Narine etc) several are upcoming players who I would have expected to see in this touring party - like Hetmeyer and Thomas. I think they’ve both been demoted to West Indies A, sure I read it somewhere the other day
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2020 19:14:27 GMT
Two decent players amongst that lot. Holder and Hope. If we don’t absolutely wipe the floor with them it’ll be embarrassing😉 A tad harsh. Campbell has talent if he can reign in the wayward shots, Dowrich too. Roach is a real handful on his day if he can get in a rhythm with Holder and Joseph they could cause a few problems. It should be a good warm up for Pakistan but you never know with England they still have the odd bad 5 days at the office.....
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 11, 2020 19:20:42 GMT
Two decent players amongst that lot. Holder and Hope. If we don’t absolutely wipe the floor with them it’ll be embarrassing😉 A tad harsh. Campbell has talent if he can reign in the wayward shots, Dowrich too. Roach is a real handful on his day if he can get in a rhythm with Holder and Joseph they could cause a few problems. It should be a good warm up for Pakistan but you never know with England they still have the odd bad 5 days at the office..... So true! Bit tongue in cheek with my assessment but still....
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 13, 2020 20:48:24 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 13, 2020 20:59:04 GMT
Bravo to that! I don’t know what they’ve been fannying around at. Big strong athletic blokes all over the Windies. They need to be unleashed!!
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Post by chuckrocky on Jun 14, 2020 6:18:30 GMT
The Windies have probably suffered more than anyone as a result of the game becoming more white ball focused. They pretty much have a conveyer belt that produce fantastic T20 players but you can count on one hand the number of genuine world class red ball players they’ve produced over the past 15 years or so. I think they are slowly starting to get their mojo back but they’re still a long way away from being a force in red ball cricket.
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Post by followyoudown on Jun 14, 2020 12:43:10 GMT
The Windies have probably suffered more than anyone as a result of the game becoming more white ball focused. They pretty much have a conveyer belt that produce fantastic T20 players but you can count on one hand the number of genuine world class red ball players they’ve produced over the past 15 years or so. I think they are slowly starting to get their mojo back but they’re still a long way away from being a force in red ball cricket. 20/20 has certainly not helped but also poor management by the WICB over a number of years, I also wonder if indirectly changes to the english county game have hindered them, 30 years ago most teams had 2 west indians as overseas players, almost all had a quick bowler as one of them as well pretty much every test quick up to Ambrose and Walsh played alot of county cricket, then there were the lesser well known names like Gerorge Ferris, Winston Benjamin, Eldine Baptise etc etc. As the english game went down to 1 overseas player it seemed to move towards aussies and saffas and then kolpaks and more sides go for batsman so often the first time an english batsman faces a world class bowler is their test debut which as we have seen doesnt work that well for us either.....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2020 13:13:06 GMT
Not a great sign for the up and coming Pakistan series. Hopefully they'll all self isolate and suffer no symptoms....
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 23, 2020 17:06:26 GMT
Not a great sign for the up and coming Pakistan series. Hopefully they'll all self isolate and suffer no symptoms.... Surely they’re not due to come over for a good while yet with it being after the Windies series?🤷🏻♂️
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Post by dave1 on Jun 23, 2020 18:36:33 GMT
Do any of you follow any local cricket? I follow Moddershall myself...
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 23, 2020 18:44:39 GMT
Do any of you follow any local cricket? I follow Moddershall myself... Longton at the moment. Basically just follow the team my mate is playing for at the time
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Post by dave1 on Jun 23, 2020 18:50:30 GMT
Do any of you follow any local cricket? I follow Moddershall myself... Longton at the moment. Basically just follow the team my mate is playing for at the time Good stuff. They signed one of our better players at the end of last season! Hoping the lads get out at some point over the summer but not so sure
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 23, 2020 18:52:41 GMT
Longton at the moment. Basically just follow the team my mate is playing for at the time Good stuff. They signed one of our better players at the end of last season! Hoping the lads get out at some point over the summer but not so sure Try to get to a game most Saturdays, it’s a good way to relax and make the most of the sunshine.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jun 23, 2020 18:56:46 GMT
Can't wait for this to kick off, still hoping for some recreational cricket.
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Post by Squeekster on Jun 23, 2020 19:15:21 GMT
I think semi professional football and small spectator sports like local cricket will get the nod in the near future.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2020 19:24:39 GMT
Not a great sign for the up and coming Pakistan series. Hopefully they'll all self isolate and suffer no symptoms.... Surely they’re not due to come over for a good while yet with it being after the Windies series?🤷🏻♂️ They were meant to be flying out the back end of next week, I’m guessing it will be put back......
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 30, 2020 16:31:52 GMT
So Joe Root is out of the first test. Who comes in? Will they go back to Denly or Malan or will they blood someone new like Dan Lawrence? I think Lawrence should play, it’s a bit of a free pass with Root being out and we’ve seen neither Denly or Malan have quite made the grade thus far. Also surely this series is a great chance to look to the future.
Burns Sibley Crawley Lawrence Stokes Pope Buttler/Foakes (hoping Foakes, probably Buttler) Woakes/Curran (A toss up, but Woakes for me) Broad Leach/Archer (Conditions dependant) Anderson
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 30, 2020 18:30:00 GMT
So Joe Root is out of the first test. Who comes in? Will they go back to Denly or Malan or will they blood someone new like Dan Lawrence? I think Lawrence should play, it’s a bit of a free pass with Root being out and we’ve seen neither Denly or Malan have quite made the grade thus far. Also surely this series is a great chance to look to the future. Burns Sibley Crawley Lawrence Stokes Pope Buttler/Foakes (hoping Foakes, probably Buttler) Woakes/Curran (A toss up, but Woakes for me) Broad Leach/Archer (Conditions dependant) Anderson Agree about going for a rookie instead of Denly or Malan. I don’t agree with the bowling options though. We have to play a spinner - I mean this generally but also specifically at OT. For a spinner it’s a choice between Leach, Bess or Mo. I’d go for Mo - he has so much talent. Let’s hope his sabbatical has brought back his MoJo. If we go with Broad and Anderson, there is space for only one quick (Stokes being the 4th seamer) so that is a choice between Archer, Woakes and Curran. Archer wins that contest hands down!
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 30, 2020 19:00:19 GMT
So Joe Root is out of the first test. Who comes in? Will they go back to Denly or Malan or will they blood someone new like Dan Lawrence? I think Lawrence should play, it’s a bit of a free pass with Root being out and we’ve seen neither Denly or Malan have quite made the grade thus far. Also surely this series is a great chance to look to the future. Burns Sibley Crawley Lawrence Stokes Pope Buttler/Foakes (hoping Foakes, probably Buttler) Woakes/Curran (A toss up, but Woakes for me) Broad Leach/Archer (Conditions dependant) Anderson Agree about going for a rookie instead of Denly or Malan. I don’t agree with the bowling options though. We have to play a spinner - I mean this generally but also specifically at OT. For a spinner it’s a choice between Leach, Bess or Mo. I’d go for Mo - he has so much talent. Let’s hope his sabbatical has brought back his MoJo. If we go with Broad and Anderson, there is space for only one quick (Stokes being the 4th seamer) so that is a choice between Archer, Woakes and Curran. Archer wins that contest hands down! That’s kind of what I’ve said isn’t it? Don’t want to discount conditions, that’s why I said Leach or Archer, especially as Archer hasn’t trained a lot in the lead up. Also, Ben Stokes will be Number 5 bat, captain and expected to bowl lengthy spells. So in summary, 4 seamers plus Stokes or 3 seamers plus Stokes and a spinner🤷🏻♂️. I’m not sure Leach should be dropped yet just because Moeens back although would be good to see how Moeen shapes up after his sabbatical.
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 30, 2020 19:03:42 GMT
Agree about going for a rookie instead of Denly or Malan. I don’t agree with the bowling options though. We have to play a spinner - I mean this generally but also specifically at OT. For a spinner it’s a choice between Leach, Bess or Mo. I’d go for Mo - he has so much talent. Let’s hope his sabbatical has brought back his MoJo. If we go with Broad and Anderson, there is space for only one quick (Stokes being the 4th seamer) so that is a choice between Archer, Woakes and Curran. Archer wins that contest hands down! That’s kind of what I’ve said isn’t it? Don’t want to discount conditions, that’s why I said Leach or Archer, especially as Archer hasn’t trained a lot in the lead up. Also, Ben Stokes will be Number 5 bat, captain and expected to bowl lengthy spells. So in summary, 4 seamers plus Stokes or 3 seamers plus Stokes and a spinner🤷🏻♂️. I’m not sure Leach should be dropped yet just because Moeens back although would be good to see how Moeen shapes up after his sabbatical. Nope. I’m saying 3 seamer plus Stokes. We should NEVER play 4 seamers plus Stokes. Never, ever, ever (again!).
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