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Post by rawli on Feb 18, 2020 12:20:44 GMT
Should we also still be in the premier league using the same logic?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2020 12:39:40 GMT
Don't understand why if you own something you can't spend what you want on it as long as you can afford it. If they changed the rules perhaps the Coates could release some big bounce and do a Man City, don't suppose any of our fans would mind that, but they slag City off. How fickle. Calling another club 'city' on a stoke city message board should be an offence with a minimum punishment of a 1 week ban 🙂 Were Man City the first club called City just out of curiosity? I guess they were as quite an old club although not originally City. A few Scottish clubs were formed in the 1860/70s but no City to my knowledge ( although that's not much to go on) |
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Feb 18, 2020 13:11:08 GMT
It's a major shame we were decimated on the injuries front, a fully fit Etherington and a full strength subs bench would have seen us have a better chance. Mind they were dirty bastards, never seen Pennant get marked or fouled like he was that day. Can't bring myself to watch the match though. The Bolton game though, yes definitely, could watch that all day. Agree but think many forget that Huth smashed Balotelli with an elbow too. |
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Post by drfootball on Feb 18, 2020 13:14:53 GMT
I think I recall a nasty, sly elbow from Toure on Wilco as well. And a nasty all out in the open elbow by Huth on Altobelli's throat. Blimey, he must have had a time machine, seeing as he retired in 1990.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2020 13:24:57 GMT
And a nasty all out in the open elbow by Huth on Altobelli's throat. Blimey, he must have had a time machine, seeing as he retired in 1990. That side step of Harald Schumacher though. |
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Post by Northy on Feb 18, 2020 13:36:11 GMT
The one that gets me is Pompey's win of it in 2008, that should be taken off them, the debt they built up, going into admin and the local businesses that were left out of pocket.
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Post by lordb on Feb 18, 2020 13:43:34 GMT
We sold him the previous January. oh right been tricky to bring him on instead of Pugh then |
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Post by 1982stokie on Feb 18, 2020 14:36:20 GMT
The one that gets me is Pompey's win of it in 2008, that should be taken off them, the debt they built up, going into admin and the local businesses that were left out of pocket. Its True, when you think about it they spent money they couldn't afford, All the man City owner has done is spent what is a small amount of his personal wealth, surely it more of a concern that Clubs operate with huge Debts Like Real Madrid, Barcelona, Man utd. all these clubs have huge debts but still through money around. |
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Post by RF10 on Feb 18, 2020 14:38:38 GMT
Not really they beat us on the day, if we had a fully fit team the result may well have been different.
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 18, 2020 15:18:33 GMT
Two points.
Pennant was an absolute hero that day. Injured, kicked to fuck, limping his way to the end but he kept going and going, knowing he was pretty much our only hope of creating anything. Not his most eye-catching moment for us by any means but I'll always remember him most fondly for his efforts that day.
Jones absolutely did not miss a sitter. He did everything he could with a half-chance that was getting away from him.
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Post by nott1 on Feb 18, 2020 16:17:47 GMT
Disqualify them and the cup is ours by default surely?
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Post by robstokie on Feb 18, 2020 19:27:42 GMT
There seems to be an emerging story that from 2010 Man City were Funded by sponsorship from the Abu Dhabi government rather than the Etihad airline as stated- hotly disputed by the owners...who run the Government through an Executive Board...this is breaking this evening , story posted on the Guardian this evening at 17.06Â This would put our beef with Arsenal in the shade and would possibly mean the club have won all of their honours dishonestly Admin if this point has been made elsewhere please delete Even if they somehow awarded the titles City have won to the runners up retrospectively, it wouldn't mean anything to me really. For me, the magic would have been winning on the day and the feel good effect it would have had on the city and the club. Same as if Liverpool get awarded the title for 2014 - its just not the same. Think the best course of action is to relegate them to league 2 next season, but I reckon they won't get more than the ban and a fine |
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Post by tpholloway1 on Feb 18, 2020 19:48:43 GMT
The one that gets me is Pompey's win of it in 2008, that should be taken off them, the debt they built up, going into admin and the local businesses that were left out of pocket. I think the same applies to Leicester and their promotion leaving a lot of local businesses out of pocket. |
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Post by blackpoolred on Feb 18, 2020 21:09:27 GMT
Short memory most of our ungrateful fans have. Seem to remember us picking up lot's of injuries to key players and lots of players playing with injuries against the millionaire’s. Jones missed a sitter in the 2nd half for us to take the lead the rest was history, but not sure we could have done much better given our circumstances. Kenwyne Jones just failed to get on to the end of a through ball minutes before Man City scored the winner. I don't recall any sitters missed. Around about 2:05 |
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Post by felonious on Feb 18, 2020 21:34:09 GMT
Short memory most of our ungrateful fans have. Seem to remember us picking up lot's of injuries to key players and lots of players playing with injuries against the millionaire’s. Jones missed a sitter in the 2nd half for us to take the lead the rest was history, but not sure we could have done much better given our circumstances. Kenwyne Jones just failed to get on to the end of a through ball minutes before Man City scored the winner. I don't recall any sitters missed. He got on the end of it. It was a miss or a save whichever way you want to look at it. |
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Post by Squeekster on Feb 18, 2020 21:50:26 GMT
Kenwyne Jones just failed to get on to the end of a through ball minutes before Man City scored the winner. I don't recall any sitters missed. He got on the end of it. It was a miss or a save whichever way you want to look at it. Wouldn't call it a sitter, a chance yes not a sitter. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 18, 2020 21:54:05 GMT
Kenwyne Jones just failed to get on to the end of a through ball minutes before Man City scored the winner. I don't recall any sitters missed. Around about 2:05 Great chance that and you can tell by the look on his face he feels he should have done better with it. |
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Post by Gods on Feb 18, 2020 23:33:50 GMT
Kenwyne Jones just failed to get on to the end of a through ball minutes before Man City scored the winner. I don't recall any sitters missed. He got on the end of it. It was a miss or a save whichever way you want to look at it. I just watched the video above and I was wrong, he did just get to the ball first. I wouldn't call it a 'sitter' as someone did, I think he did well to get there and he just tried to nick it past the keeper and it didn't quite happen for him. Had it gone in might we have hung on, who knows, a real 'sliding doors' moment in our history for sure. |
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 18, 2020 23:53:36 GMT
Great chance that and you can tell by the look on his face he feels he should have done better with it. I can never understand this viewpoint. He did pretty much the only thing possible, which was stick out a leg and try and nick it under the goalie. It was a split second, the ball was running away from him and Hart was right on top of him (was good goalkeeping actually). There’s no way he could have got any more control on it than he did. Can’t get my head round what anyone thinks he could have done better. |
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Post by ParaPsych on Feb 19, 2020 0:02:04 GMT
Great chance that and you can tell by the look on his face he feels he should have done better with it. I can never understand this viewpoint. He did pretty much the only thing possible, which was stick out a leg and try and nick it under the goalie. It was a split second, the ball was running away from him and Hart was right on top of him (was good goalkeeping actually). There’s no way he could have got any more control on it than he did. Can’t get my head round what anyone thinks he could have done better. That's the first time I've ever watched any of the game back. I was sat right down amongst the front rows right in front of the chance. I always felt it was split second stuff and not an easy one. That video just confirms that imho. Obviously he'll think he could have done better as any striker would and on another day maybe it would have gone in. It's just one of those. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 19, 2020 8:17:38 GMT
That's why strikers earn the big bucks to finish chances like that in tight games.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 19, 2020 8:49:44 GMT
I can never understand this viewpoint. He did pretty much the only thing possible, which was stick out a leg and try and nick it under the goalie. It was a split second, the ball was running away from him and Hart was right on top of him (was good goalkeeping actually). There’s no way he could have got any more control on it than he did. Can’t get my head round what anyone thinks he could have done better. That's the first time I've ever watched any of the game back. I was sat right down amongst the front rows right in front of the chance. I always felt it was split second stuff and not an easy one. That video just confirms that imho. Obviously he'll think he could have done better as any striker would and on another day maybe it would have gone in. It's just one of those. I will never watch it. I was gutted we lost. Absolutely gutted. Will never forget stopping at the services on the way home and my pals laughing and joking with man city fans. I just sat in silence in the mini bus. I couldn't bring myself to be civil towards them... And Tevez was offside. Ugly bastard. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 12:38:07 GMT
And a nasty all out in the open elbow by Huth on Altobelli's throat. Blimey, he must have had a time machine, seeing as he retired in 1990. Okay, Balotelli. |
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Post by sheds1862 on Feb 19, 2020 12:44:12 GMT
By which logic means they cheated United out of the semi final too
What a bizarre post to try and rewrite history
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Post by tomcmod on Feb 19, 2020 12:58:23 GMT
He got on the end of it. It was a miss or a save whichever way you want to look at it. I just watched the video above and I was wrong, he did just get to the ball first. I wouldn't call it a 'sitter' as someone did, I think he did well to get there and he just tried to nick it past the keeper and it didn't quite happen for him. Had it gone in might we have hung on, who knows, a real 'sliding doors' moment in our history for sure. Did well to keep his feet after the shove from Lescott, probably knew if he went down no chance Twatkinson giving a penalty. Also he takes a slight touch with his head first which may have pushed out of reach when he just clipped it and Hart saved it. When you think he had 1 maybe 2 seconds to think, do I go down, do I head it, do I volley it or do I try knock it around the keeper. In the end I think him trying to stay up only left him with the latter option. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 13:08:58 GMT
By which logic means they cheated United out of the semi final too What a bizarre post to try and rewrite history It's not rewriting history. It's Citeh who faked the original. But the unbelievers among us do have a point. It's a bit like those riders who finished second in tour de france only to be told years after that the winner was doped and now they are the winners. Notwithstanding that they probably were doped themselves, winning on paper just doesn't feel right. But at least we haven't been found guilty of financial doping...yet! |
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Post by sheds1862 on Feb 19, 2020 13:24:08 GMT
By which logic means they cheated United out of the semi final too What a bizarre post to try and rewrite history It's not rewriting history. It's Citeh who faked the original. But the unbelievers among us do have a point. It's a bit like those riders who finished second in tour de france only to be told years after that the winner was doped and now they are the winners. Notwithstanding that they probably were doped themselves, winning on paper just doesn't feel right. But at least we haven't been found guilty of financial doping...yet! But surely you have to say 3rd round 4th round Etc etc Were all cheated too yet the thread suggests we'd of won the FA cup |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 19, 2020 13:37:54 GMT
Nothing will compare to the way we're cheated out of 2 FA Cup finals
By the scum.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 14:37:47 GMT
It's not rewriting history. It's Citeh who faked the original. But the unbelievers among us do have a point. It's a bit like those riders who finished second in tour de france only to be told years after that the winner was doped and now they are the winners. Notwithstanding that they probably were doped themselves, winning on paper just doesn't feel right. But at least we haven't been found guilty of financial doping...yet! But surely you have to say 3rd round 4th round Etc etc Were all cheated too yet the thread suggests we'd of won the FA cup Of course. But we can only talk about ourselves. I don't even remember who Citeh played in those rounds, so if what I felt was sorry for ourselves (it's not), I can't feel sorry for a club I don't even know who is. I don't think the thread suggests what you say. Because even if we'd played Citeh's second string of the day, we might still have lost, because our attitude and aproach - and fitness - on the day just wasn't right. We basically didn't turn up that day. |
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Post by durbanscircus on Feb 19, 2020 14:44:02 GMT
It's not rewriting history. It's Citeh who faked the original. But the unbelievers among us do have a point. It's a bit like those riders who finished second in tour de france only to be told years after that the winner was doped and now they are the winners. Notwithstanding that they probably were doped themselves, winning on paper just doesn't feel right. But at least we haven't been found guilty of financial doping...yet! But surely you have to say 3rd round 4th round Etc etc Were all cheated too yet the thread suggests we'd of won the FA cup As the OP I was/am genuinely interested in how people feel. As for me Im not trying to rewrite history and I agree every team they played and beat has been cheated if the charges are proven by UEFA in subsequent appeals- its a huge issue for their club and their historical credibility. For me I do feel we were cheated- I remember looking at our depleted team, and the fact that their bench was packed with international stars never mind the first team, and my heart sank.It didnt feel like a sporting event where the outcome was at all in doubt and to think it was rigged financially makes me feel sick given we are unlikely to ever be at another FA cup final in my lifetime. |
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