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Post by mrcoke on Jul 23, 2024 15:15:13 GMT
There's more: www.constructionenquirer.com/2024/07/23/hs2-to-spend-100m-shutting-sites-where-construction-never-started/As a supporter of HS2 I believe future generations will bitterly regret the cancellation of the full concept of HS2. The benefit of the scheme is not just reducing journey times between regions, but primarily that it will release the old Victorian network from express trains so that it can be more fully utilised for commuting and goods traffic instead of constantly building more and more, and wider and wider motorways. Roads damage the environment many times more per mile than motorways. Some may not agree with me, but remember my words next time you are stood still on a motorway. It was reported earlier this year that the average UK driver spends an average of 38 hours per year stood still on British roads. It's only going to get worse and worse unless the country does something major to relieve the congestion. That is HS2 full scheme and HS3, HS4, etc. It may not be you personally but you are still impacted by the amount of time and cost of lorry drivers going nowhere, because you are paying for it in higher costs. www.carsupermarket.com/blog/stuck-in-the-jam-why-the-uks-roads-are-europes-most-congested |
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Post by Gawa on Jul 23, 2024 15:55:42 GMT
There's more: www.constructionenquirer.com/2024/07/23/hs2-to-spend-100m-shutting-sites-where-construction-never-started/As a supporter of HS2 I believe future generations will bitterly regret the cancellation of the full concept of HS2. The benefit of the scheme is not just reducing journey times between regions, but primarily that it will release the old Victorian network from express trains so that it can be more fully utilised for commuting and goods traffic instead of constantly building more and more, and wider and wider motorways. Roads damage the environment many times more per mile than motorways. Some may not agree with me, but remember my words next time you are stood still on a motorway. It was reported earlier this year that the average UK driver spends an average of 38 hours per year stood still on British roads. It's only going to get worse and worse unless the country does something major to relieve the congestion. That is HS2 full scheme and HS3, HS4, etc. It may not be you personally but you are still impacted by the amount of time and cost of lorry drivers going nowhere, because you are paying for it in higher costs. www.carsupermarket.com/blog/stuck-in-the-jam-why-the-uks-roads-are-europes-most-congestedI'm not opposed to the railway, I don't think most people are. The issue more is with the costs of it compared to how much similar projects are costing our European neighbours. You raise very good points though and we should be less dependant on roads where possible and investing in other forms of transport. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jul 23, 2024 16:08:37 GMT
There's more: www.constructionenquirer.com/2024/07/23/hs2-to-spend-100m-shutting-sites-where-construction-never-started/As a supporter of HS2 I believe future generations will bitterly regret the cancellation of the full concept of HS2. The benefit of the scheme is not just reducing journey times between regions, but primarily that it will release the old Victorian network from express trains so that it can be more fully utilised for commuting and goods traffic instead of constantly building more and more, and wider and wider motorways. Roads damage the environment many times more per mile than motorways. Some may not agree with me, but remember my words next time you are stood still on a motorway. It was reported earlier this year that the average UK driver spends an average of 38 hours per year stood still on British roads. It's only going to get worse and worse unless the country does something major to relieve the congestion. That is HS2 full scheme and HS3, HS4, etc. It may not be you personally but you are still impacted by the amount of time and cost of lorry drivers going nowhere, because you are paying for it in higher costs. www.carsupermarket.com/blog/stuck-in-the-jam-why-the-uks-roads-are-europes-most-congestedI'm not opposed to the railway, I don't think most people are. The issue more is with the costs of it compared to how much similar projects are costing our European neighbours. You raise very good points though and we should be less dependant on roads where possible and investing in other forms of transport. A lot of the cost is our God awful planning system and building 90 miles of it underground. I know I bang on about our planning system because of my line of work. But I can assure you it is the root of all evils regarding our stagnation as a nation in terms of infrastructure. We are pathetic... |
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Post by lordb on Jul 23, 2024 16:12:52 GMT
I'm not opposed to the railway, I don't think most people are. The issue more is with the costs of it compared to how much similar projects are costing our European neighbours. You raise very good points though and we should be less dependant on roads where possible and investing in other forms of transport. A lot of the cost is our God awful planning system and building 90 miles of it underground. I know I bang on about our planning system because of my line of work. But I can assure you it is the root of all evils regarding our stagnation as a nation in terms of infrastructure. We are pathetic... what do you think of the new govts stated aims re changing that, so far they talking about planning developments for housing but it infects so many areas positive change or believe it when you see it? |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jul 23, 2024 16:36:07 GMT
A lot of the cost is our God awful planning system and building 90 miles of it underground. I know I bang on about our planning system because of my line of work. But I can assure you it is the root of all evils regarding our stagnation as a nation in terms of infrastructure. We are pathetic... what do you think of the new govts stated aims re changing that, so far they talking about planning developments for housing but it infects so many areas positive change or believe it when you see it? Definitely believe it when I see it. That said I really hope they can unblock it. There is a part solution staring them in the face and the question is whether they will do it. And that is to outsource the planning work to the private sector and get the developer to foot the bill for it. Most developers wouldn't give a monkeys arse about paying 50 or 200k if it meant there applications weren't getting held up for no other reason than the local authority don't have the manpower to deal with it. I've got an application in Rochdale that was submitted in July 2021. Statutory guidelines were for that to be determined in 16 weeks. We're onto week 156. And i have sympathy to an extent because if you're a decent planner working in the council it doesn't take long for one of the developers to offer them 2x their current salary to go work for them. So councils are most often left understaffed and the one's left are either shyte, a nimby or a militant or all 3 in some cases. The other more difficult thing to address is our habit as a nation of all being nimbies. But the way our population is growing and all that stuff we simply have no choice but to do something or we'll come to a grinding halt. Good luck labour 👍 |
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 23, 2024 17:19:16 GMT
There's more: www.constructionenquirer.com/2024/07/23/hs2-to-spend-100m-shutting-sites-where-construction-never-started/As a supporter of HS2 I believe future generations will bitterly regret the cancellation of the full concept of HS2. The benefit of the scheme is not just reducing journey times between regions, but primarily that it will release the old Victorian network from express trains so that it can be more fully utilised for commuting and goods traffic instead of constantly building more and more, and wider and wider motorways. Roads damage the environment many times more per mile than motorways. Some may not agree with me, but remember my words next time you are stood still on a motorway. It was reported earlier this year that the average UK driver spends an average of 38 hours per year stood still on British roads. It's only going to get worse and worse unless the country does something major to relieve the congestion. That is HS2 full scheme and HS3, HS4, etc. It may not be you personally but you are still impacted by the amount of time and cost of lorry drivers going nowhere, because you are paying for it in higher costs. www.carsupermarket.com/blog/stuck-in-the-jam-why-the-uks-roads-are-europes-most-congestedI'm not opposed to the railway, I don't think most people are. The issue more is with the costs of it compared to how much similar projects are costing our European neighbours. You raise very good points though and we should be less dependant on roads where possible and investing in other forms of transport. You might find this of interest: www.globalrailwayreview.com/news/147158/spanish-high-speed-rail/It explains why HS2 is 9x more per km than Spain's system. I support the comments on UK planners. I was once told by an architect who was doing a job for me that he has to give the planners something to change in the design otherwise they don't feel they doing their job. They have to tell the Councillor s what they have had changed in a scheme to justify their existence to the Council. There is another factor to be counted is EU grants, if I may bore you again on my favourite subject. For example, the EU has put €14 billion financial support for Spain high speed train system since 1994 . Many years ago Clarkson did a series of programmes on European countries. In the case of Spain he drewelled on about the massive investment in Spain post Franco into airports, railways, stations, motorways, etc. He told viewers they should come a see it " because you have paid for it". His reasoning was the UK's net financial contribution to the EU matched the development grants Spain received from the EU over the years from Spain's joining and the time of the programme. The UK spent 47 years paying into the EU, which totals approaching £1 trillion at todays value, money that could have been invested in UK infrastructure, NHS, etc. which was the point being made on the side of red buses. Obviously other countries are net contributers, but they enjoy and benefit from positive trade balance, whereas the UK suffered a huge trade deficit, bleeding the UK' economy. |
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Post by frasier37 on Jul 23, 2024 18:34:05 GMT
Stinks of more corruption
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Post by tweet on Jul 23, 2024 18:54:15 GMT
Looks like there is major problems with the steel being used in the bridges , the welding is failing
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 23, 2024 22:07:57 GMT
HS2 farce latest.... www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c725k6ynw7go"It means that only the stretch between London and the West Midlands will go ahead. New trains built for HS2, however, will run over the entire line. But the NAO said these trains “may have fewer seats than existing services”, and HS2’s delivery company estimates that capacity between Manchester and Birmingham could be reduced by 17%. The Department for Transport (DfT) is looking at how longer HS2 trains could be used, but existing stations such as Crewe would have to be adapted. As a result, the NAO said that the DfT “will need to assess options for addressing capacity issues on the west coast”, such as dissuading passengers from travelling by train at certain times - if at all."
So after the billions of tax payer money spent and the destruction of the local environments, the lasting legacy of HS2 will ultimately be, to actually encourage people to use the rail network less!
Well isn't that just bloody typical! 
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 26, 2024 9:49:45 GMT
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Post by Veritas on Jul 26, 2024 14:15:44 GMT
Ah so the channel tunnel was a cunning EU plan to scupper the UK economy. I always suspected that Maggie Thatcher was up to something when she agreed to and indeed championed the building of the tunnel. She always was a leftie Europhile. |
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Jul 26, 2024 15:02:22 GMT
And no benefit at all for UK exporters to export into the EU, because the trains only run in one direction  |
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 26, 2024 18:17:19 GMT
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Post by mrnovember on Nov 26, 2024 18:39:38 GMT
Who won the tender for the £100m bat shed? |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 26, 2024 18:40:30 GMT
Who won the tender for the £100m bat shed? Some joker |
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Post by milton58 on Nov 26, 2024 18:52:07 GMT
When you get around the outskirts of Brum I couldn't believe how big this project is it's fucking massive....what I did notice how much shit is on the side of the roads from all of this
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 26, 2024 18:53:27 GMT
When you get around the outskirts of Brum I couldn't believe how big this project is it's fucking massive....what I did notice how much shit is on the side of the roads from all of this There’s shit everywhere in this country these days. I wonder why🤔 |
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Post by milton58 on Nov 26, 2024 19:16:11 GMT
When you get around the outskirts of Brum I couldn't believe how big this project is it's fucking massive....what I did notice how much shit is on the side of the roads from all of this There’s shit everywhere in this country these days. I wonder why🤔 must have cut back on the road sweepers |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 26, 2024 19:18:08 GMT
There’s shit everywhere in this country these days. I wonder why🤔 must have cut back on the road sweepers Well yes at a basic level along with every other maintenance requirement plaguing our roads such as drainage which is causing all of these ridiculous floods from 2 inches of snow etc |
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Post by wannabee on Nov 26, 2024 19:51:12 GMT
If the Government sort out the Planning they might make some progress with Ferrovial (Spain) and BAM (Netherlands) in charge of the construction Colas (French) looking after the Overhead Catenary Systems (OCS) Siemens (Germany) will be in charge of Telecommunications Hitachi (Japan) along with Telent will be in charge of Testing and user interface A great example of European cooperation and even further afield UK will provide the Finance |
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Post by milton58 on Nov 26, 2024 20:08:11 GMT
must have cut back on the road sweepers Well yes at a basic level along with every other maintenance requirement plaguing our roads such as drainage which is causing all of these ridiculous floods from 2 inches of snow etc 6 inch of rain didn't help though |
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 26, 2024 20:44:42 GMT
If the Government sort out the Planning they might make some progress with Ferrovial (Spain) and BAM (Netherlands) in charge of the construction Colas (French) looking after the Overhead Catenary Systems (OCS) Siemens (Germany) will be in charge of Telecommunications Hitachi (Japan) along with Telent will be in charge of Testing and user interface A great example of European cooperation and even further afield UK will provide the Finance Yep. 47 years of EEC/EU membership destroyed the manufacturing base of the UK. Countless companies left or went out of business or declined due to loss of customer base. You can't have a steel industry if steel consumers disappear. Most of it occurred post Maastricht and the formation of the single market since when the UK has had the lowest investment in the G7. The worst period was during the Blair years when manufacturing largely left the UK and the balance of payments went into increasing deficit. It is going to take decades to repair the damage of EU. membership. www.statista.com/statistics/284745/balance-of-trade-uk/ |
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Post by wannabee on Nov 26, 2024 21:31:01 GMT
If the Government sort out the Planning they might make some progress with Ferrovial (Spain) and BAM (Netherlands) in charge of the construction Colas (French) looking after the Overhead Catenary Systems (OCS) Siemens (Germany) will be in charge of Telecommunications Hitachi (Japan) along with Telent will be in charge of Testing and user interface A great example of European cooperation and even further afield UK will provide the Finance Yep. 47 years of EEC/EU membership destroyed the manufacturing base of the UK. Countless companies left or went out of business or declined due to loss of customer base. You can't have a steel industry if steel consumers disappear. Most of it occurred post Maastricht and the formation of the single market since when the UK has had the lowest investment in the G7. The worst period was during the Blair years when manufacturing largely left the UK and the balance of payments went into increasing deficit. It is going to take decades to repair the damage of EU. membership. www.statista.com/statistics/284745/balance-of-trade-uk/You may be interested in reading this Article which examines the question "Who killed British Manufacturing" it's four years old but interesting nevertheless www.investmentmonitor.ai/manufacturing/who-killed-british-manufacturing/?cf-view |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Nov 27, 2024 11:11:13 GMT
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Post by wannabee on Nov 27, 2024 14:44:41 GMT
The Article suggests the problem is with full penetration butt welds, who knew. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Nov 27, 2024 14:51:08 GMT
The Article suggests the problem is with full penetration butt welds, who knew. Sounds painful 😆 |
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Post by Northy on Nov 27, 2024 16:26:18 GMT
When you get around the outskirts of Brum I couldn't believe how big this project is it's fucking massive....what I did notice how much shit is on the side of the roads from all of this I've driven up the M6/M42/M6 toll link again today, I noticed signs were up for a weekend closure on the 6-9 December. We had the back end of our car park on Birmingham business park taken for the new line. |
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Post by tweet on Nov 27, 2024 16:30:52 GMT
I have known about the bridges for a while , same company has done the welding on everton’s new ground |
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Post by salopstick on Nov 27, 2024 16:35:56 GMT
I have known about the bridges for a while , same company has done the welding on everton’s new ground massive metal girders in front of seats? |
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