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Post by theoptimist on Feb 6, 2020 19:24:04 GMT
No ..... its not Coventry away 
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 6, 2020 19:28:21 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2020 19:46:40 GMT
Wow,he sounds like a top coach.
I wonder if he's ever thought about going into management
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Post by walton corner on Feb 6, 2020 20:16:12 GMT
Best 2 years of football I have ever seen down stoke ...took Man City Man Utd Liverpool apart with stunning football...that will probably never seen down stoke again in the next 20 years ....cheers sparky
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Post by werrington on Feb 6, 2020 20:18:30 GMT
Best 2 years of football I have ever seen down stoke ...took Man City Man Utd Liverpool apart with stunning football...that will probably never seen down stoke again in the next 20 years ....cheers sparky Never happened apparently |
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 6, 2020 20:19:04 GMT
More of a description of what happened in the game than a "tactical masterclass" really isn't it. But enjoyable nonetheless.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2020 20:30:14 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2020 20:45:44 GMT
Best 2 years of football I have ever seen down stoke ...took Man City Man Utd Liverpool apart with stunning football...that will probably never seen down stoke again in the next 20 years ....cheers sparky Never happened apparently People like to rewrite history on here. |
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Post by hyaduck on Feb 6, 2020 21:04:08 GMT
Best two years of football we’ve played since early/mid seventies under MH
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Post by scfc75 on Feb 6, 2020 21:04:11 GMT
Best 2 years of football I have ever seen down stoke ...took Man City Man Utd Liverpool apart with stunning football...that will probably never seen down stoke again in the next 20 years ....cheers sparky Never happened apparently I think we all know that were it not for the stellar work done by the previous manager, we would never have finished 9th for 3 seasons running (winky thing) |
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Post by chigstoke on Feb 6, 2020 21:04:47 GMT
That's a good watch. Weird watching it mind, just felt like going back in time. And it's clear that Mark Hughes was a bloody good manager who knew what he was doing in the first 3 years or so. Shame he went the way he did with the 3 at the back lark and Diouf in RWB, but I will never forget that Liverpool game or indeed any of the other stunning victories he provided us. The best football I'd ever seen Stoke play since watching from 2004. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 6, 2020 21:08:01 GMT
Best 2 years of football I have ever seen down stoke ...took Man City Man Utd Liverpool apart with stunning football...that will probably never seen down stoke again in the next 20 years ....cheers sparky I think 2 years is pushing it abit🤔But very good times in the Stokealona spell. Closely followed by the biggest mismanagement of a squad of players resulting in Hughes totally losing the plot and going along way to the shit we’ve found ourselves in for the last 3 seasons. Will never ever forgive him for the way it ended despite the good times |
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 6, 2020 21:11:34 GMT
Mark Hughes, tactical masterclass!!!  |
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Post by Championship Potter on Feb 6, 2020 21:34:05 GMT
He was at fault no doubt, but the main issue was player recruitment - to be landed with Wimmer, Berahino, Imbula, Jese, Choupo etc while losing Walters, N'Zonzi and Arnautovic would have been a nightmare scenario for any manager.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 6, 2020 21:40:03 GMT
Best 2 years of football I have ever seen down stoke ...took Man City Man Utd Liverpool apart with stunning football...that will probably never seen down stoke again in the next 20 years ....cheers sparky I think 2 years is pushing it abit🤔But very good times in the Stokealona spell. Closely followed by the biggest mismanagement of a squad of players resulting in Hughes totally losing the plot and going along way to the shit we’ve found ourselves in for the last 3 seasons. Will never ever forgive him for the way it ended despite the good times 2014 and 2015 was two years, last time I checked... |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 6, 2020 21:41:05 GMT
He was at fault no doubt, but the main issue was player recruitment - to be landed with Wimmer, Berahino, Imbula, Jese, Choupo etc while losing Walters, N'Zonzi and Arnautovic would have been a nightmare scenario for any manager. He wasn’t ‘landed’ with them though was he? He signed them. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 6, 2020 21:51:35 GMT
I think 2 years is pushing it abit🤔But very good times in the Stokealona spell. Closely followed by the biggest mismanagement of a squad of players resulting in Hughes totally losing the plot and going along way to the shit we’ve found ourselves in for the last 3 seasons. Will never ever forgive him for the way it ended despite the good times 2014 and 2015 was two years, last time I checked... So the whole 2 years was fantastic then🤔 |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2020 21:56:04 GMT
Best 2 years of football I have ever seen down stoke ...took Man City Man Utd Liverpool apart with stunning football...that will probably never seen down stoke again in the next 20 years ....cheers sparky Never happened apparently No, it definitely did happen. It was an incredible (however brief) period in our recent history. But then, just for balance, he lost his way, and got us relegated from the Premier League. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 6, 2020 21:56:10 GMT
2014 and 2015 was two years, last time I checked... So the whole 2 years was fantastic then🤔 Oh sorry, the entirety of the year has to be good according to the criteria now? Which manager bar Waddo has delivered that for us as a top flight side? Most of it was pretty damn good by our standards? We had the odd bad run but when didn’t we as a Premier League side? |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 6, 2020 22:00:49 GMT
So the whole 2 years was fantastic then🤔 Oh sorry, the entirety of the year has to be good according to the criteria now? Which manager bar Waddo has delivered that for us as a top flight side? Most of it was pretty damn good by our standards? We had the odd bad run but when didn’t we as a Premier League side? Im not disputing we had some great times just like we did with Pulis but let’s not pretend it was like it all the time. |
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Post by iglugluk on Feb 6, 2020 22:03:56 GMT
Never happened apparently No, it definitely did happen. It was an incredible (however brief) period in our recent history. But then, just for balance, he lost his way, and got us relegated from the Premier League. Good 'balance' comment. That about sums it up. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 6, 2020 22:04:35 GMT
Oh sorry, the entirety of the year has to be good according to the criteria now? Which manager bar Waddo has delivered that for us as a top flight side? Most of it was pretty damn good by our standards? We had the odd bad run but when didn’t we as a Premier League side? Im not disputing we had some great times just like we did with Pulis but let’s not pretend it was like it all the time. It was good for a spell of two and a half years or so. Just because we had bad spells and didn’t win or play well every single week doesn’t make it worth denigrating. It wasn’t ‘like it’ all the time under anyone, was it? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2020 22:05:21 GMT
Best 2 years of football I have ever seen down stoke ...took Man City Man Utd Liverpool apart with stunning football...that will probably never seen down stoke again in the next 20 years ....cheers sparky Never happened apparently Of course it happened ...Hughes started brightly ... bringing in quality attackers like arnautovic shaquiri Moses bojan to give us more quality in attack When it later came to the tricky bit of replacing the steel and backbone of the team ...Whelan Huth Walters delap Wilko ...Hughes was spectacularly let down by scholes and carto and the three of them ( Hughes scholes carto ) made a spectacular and amateur mess of things He initially started well , and then surrounded by amateurs , lost the plot There is not much more to say |
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Post by Championship Potter on Feb 6, 2020 22:07:49 GMT
He was at fault no doubt, but the main issue was player recruitment - to be landed with Wimmer, Berahino, Imbula, Jese, Choupo etc while losing Walters, N'Zonzi and Arnautovic would have been a nightmare scenario for any manager. He wasn’t ‘landed’ with them though was he? He signed them. He’s not in charge of recruitment or scouting though. He should take a fair amount of blame for Berahino and Wimmer because they were domestic players and by all accounts he pushed those deals through but the other players he would have had next to no knowledge of. This was on top of us massively underinvesting vs every other team around us, so there was little margin for error. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 6, 2020 22:09:47 GMT
He wasn’t ‘landed’ with them though was he? He signed them. He’s not in charge of recruitment or scouting though. He should take a fair amount of blame for Berahino and Wimmer because they were domestic players and by all accounts he pushed those deals though but the other players he would have had next to no knowledge of. This was on top of us massively underinvesting vs every other team around us, so there was little margin for error. He was in charge of recruitment in that he identified the players, he pushed for the players and he had the final say? What do you mean he’d have had next to no knowledge of the players, what are you basing that on? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2020 22:11:16 GMT
Never happened apparently Of course it happened ...Hughes started brightly ... bringing in quality attackers like arnautovic shaquiri Moses bojan to give us more quality in attack When it later came to the tricky bit of replacing the steel and backbone of the team ...Whelan Huth Walters delap Wilko ...Hughes was spectacularly let down by scholes and carto and the three of them ( Hughes scholes carto ) made a spectacular and amateur mess of things He initially started well , and then surrounded by amateurs , lost the plot There is not much more to say I do get that people are touchy when it comes to the criticism Hughes attracts. I think for many (myself included), the failure/s that resulted in our relegation, hugely overshadowed the good work he'd done. I remember some great times, great performances, great games, and a few great players. In the cold light of day, he fucked it up, and look where we are now. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 6, 2020 22:14:28 GMT
Im not disputing we had some great times just like we did with Pulis but let’s not pretend it was like it all the time. It was good for a spell of two and a half years or so. Just because we had bad spells and didn’t win or play well every single week doesn’t make it worth denigrating. It wasn’t ‘like it’ all the time under anyone, was it? As I said earlier we had great spells under Hughes and we played some great stuff in the Stokealona spell but as I’ve said on numerous occasions to you and many others on here in MY OPINION he totalled ruined our club in the end which I cannot forgive him for. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 6, 2020 22:15:24 GMT
Of course it happened ...Hughes started brightly ... bringing in quality attackers like arnautovic shaquiri Moses bojan to give us more quality in attack When it later came to the tricky bit of replacing the steel and backbone of the team ...Whelan Huth Walters delap Wilko ...Hughes was spectacularly let down by scholes and carto and the three of them ( Hughes scholes carto ) made a spectacular and amateur mess of things He initially started well , and then surrounded by amateurs , lost the plot There is not much more to say I do get that people are touchy when it comes to the criticism Hughes attracts. I think for many (myself included), the failure/s that resulted in our relegation, hugely overshadowed the good work he'd done. I remember some great times, great performances, great games, and a few great players. In the cold light of day, he fucked it up, and look where we are now. Absolutely spot on mate |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 6, 2020 22:18:11 GMT
It was good for a spell of two and a half years or so. Just because we had bad spells and didn’t win or play well every single week doesn’t make it worth denigrating. It wasn’t ‘like it’ all the time under anyone, was it? As I said earlier we had great spells under Hughes and we played some great stuff in the Stokealona spell but as I’ve said on numerous occasions to you and many others on here in MY OPINION he totalled ruined our club in the end which I cannot forgive him for. First of all Mutts put the word opinion in capitals, neon lights, give it a pair of tits if you want, it doesn’t make it sacred or unchallengable. Second, what I was taking issue with was your suggestion that the good times were briefer than they actually were, which is nonsense. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 6, 2020 22:21:10 GMT
He was at fault no doubt, but the main issue was player recruitment - to be landed with Wimmer, Berahino, Imbula, Jese, Choupo etc while losing Walters, N'Zonzi and Arnautovic would have been a nightmare scenario for any manager. Then why did he chose to sign those players? |
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