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Post by skiptomylou on Jan 3, 2021 10:44:14 GMT
I'm not saying this guy is the answer to all of our problems, he certainly isn't the 1 in 2 striker all teams look for, however he is a 1 in 4 striker.
That being said I feel we would be 2-6 points better of over the last 8 games if we had of kept him in our squad.
I'd be looking to bring him back from turkey, surely be a cheaper option than bringing in a loan player from a prem club.
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 3, 2021 10:47:15 GMT
I'm not saying this guy is the answer to all of our problems, he certainly isn't the 1 in 2 striker all teams look for, however he is a 1 in 4 striker. That being said I feel we would be 2-6 points better of over the last 8 games if we had of kept him in our squad. I'd be looking to bring him back from turkey, surely be a cheaper option than bringing in a loan player from a prem club. He’s on a season long loan. You can’t just break the terms of the agreement on a whim. |
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Post by wakeypotter on Jan 3, 2021 10:50:28 GMT
I'm not saying this guy is the answer to all of our problems, he certainly isn't the 1 in 2 striker all teams look for, however he is a 1 in 4 striker. That being said I feel we would be 2-6 points better of over the last 8 games if we had of kept him in our squad. I'd be looking to bring him back from turkey, surely be a cheaper option than bringing in a loan player from a prem club. He’s on a season long loan. You can’t just break the terms of the agreement on a whim. it wouldn’t be on a whim though. We have a striker crisis. Forgot about him. How’s he doing in turkey |
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Post by iglugluk on Jan 3, 2021 10:51:02 GMT
He clearly doesn't want to play for us, so there's no point even if we could recall him from his loan.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 3, 2021 10:51:14 GMT
His form is really bad in Turkey. The Trabzonspor supporters want to send him back.
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Post by wakeypotter on Jan 3, 2021 10:53:21 GMT
Just looked he’s scored 3 in 12
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 3, 2021 10:53:47 GMT
He’s on a season long loan. You can’t just break the terms of the agreement on a whim. it wouldn’t be on a whim though. We have a striker crisis. Forgot about him. How’s he doing in turkey They are legally binding agreements. They are paying his wages and gave us a fee to have him for the season. You can’t just undo these things....unless there is desire from all three parties to do so, which will involve us giving them their money back. |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jan 3, 2021 10:54:24 GMT
His form is really bad in Turkey. The Trabzonspor supporters want to send him back. A turkey in turkey then. |
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Post by spoton on Jan 3, 2021 10:55:13 GMT
Does this bloke deserve a 2nd chance with us next season under the guidance of a proper manager, one who seems to be getting the best out of our players by playing a system that suits us. I think he was hung out to dry a little bit with having to play a role he wasnt suited too, also have no doubt that had he of stayed he would of scored more than the 4 goals Gregory has to his name this season. Yes. Think he’d do well with Campbell. Plus one of the Scottish lads and that could be the basis of a good strike force to select from Why do you think Campbell is staying |
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Post by 1982stokie on Jan 3, 2021 10:57:24 GMT
I am I right in thinking him and Vokes cost a combined 20 plus million, add Ince to that and we are over 30 million on 3 attackers who would struggle to get 10 goals between them in a season
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 3, 2021 10:57:26 GMT
His form is really bad in Turkey. The Trabzonspor supporters want to send him back. £12 million. Along with the £7 million + for Vokes. Two strikers there with a combined cost of nearly £20 million plus wages. Look at their contributions to this football club. It’s enough to make you either weep, throw up, or punch a hole in a wall 😡😡 |
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Post by themistocles on Jan 3, 2021 11:00:30 GMT
His form is really bad in Turkey. The Trabzonspor supporters want to send him back. £12 million. Along with the £7 million + for Vokes. Two strikers there with a combined cost of nearly £20 million plus wages. Look their contributions to this football club. It’s enough to make you either weep, throw up, or punch a hole in a wall 😡😡 Just think who we could of purchased with a competent transfer team - Toney, Gayle, |
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 3, 2021 11:02:42 GMT
£12 million. Along with the £7 million + for Vokes. Two strikers there with a combined cost of nearly £20 million plus wages. Look their contributions to this football club. It’s enough to make you either weep, throw up, or punch a hole in a wall 😡😡 Just think who we could of purchased with a competent transfer team - Toney, Gayle, We will get nowhere until they are gone. The money wasted in that period between summer ‘18 and ‘19 was outrageous. |
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Post by shrewspotter on Jan 3, 2021 11:23:06 GMT
I’d rather Glenn Murray for the remainder of the season plus this Rabbi Montono and cover for left back
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Post by shrewspotter on Jan 3, 2021 11:24:45 GMT
Just think who we could of purchased with a competent transfer team - Toney, Gayle, We will get nowhere until they are gone. The money wasted in that period between summer ‘18 and ‘19 is outrageous. Vokes, Ince, Afobe, Woods, McClean and Clucas all paid way over the top for, and that’s why we can budge right now |
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 3, 2021 11:25:27 GMT
I’d rather Glenn Murray for the remainder of the season plus this Rabbi Montono and cover for left back I think Murray is on loan at Watford for the season. But yes, if we can, someone “ready made” to make a positive difference is what’s required. |
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 3, 2021 11:27:19 GMT
We will get nowhere until they are gone. The money wasted in that period between summer ‘18 and ‘19 is outrageous. Vokes, Ince, Afobe, Woods, McClean and Clucas all paid way over the top for, and that’s why we can budge right now There’s no room for manoeuvre until they are gone. Problem is, not only are they all shit, they are getting paid ludicrous salaries that no other club would be prepared to pay. They will be stuck here until their contracts expire and that’s the sobering reality. |
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Post by Squeekster on Jan 3, 2021 11:27:26 GMT
I’d rather Glenn Murray for the remainder of the season plus this Rabbi Montono and cover for left back I think Murray is on loan at Watford for the season. But yes, if we can, someone “ready made” to make a positive difference is what’s required. He is but they said on sky last night during the Brighton match they were thinking of recalling him due to his lack of game time. |
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 3, 2021 11:32:53 GMT
We will get nowhere until they are gone. The money wasted in that period between summer ‘18 and ‘19 is outrageous. Vokes, Ince, Afobe, Woods, McClean and Clucas all paid way over the top for, and that’s why we can budge right now By my reckoning, those six players you’ve listed above, plus Wimmer and Bauer, are draining this football club out of around £12 million a year in wages. Woods and Afobe are out on loan, but it wouldn’t surprise me if we are subsidising their salaries to a degree. |
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Post by xchpotter on Jan 3, 2021 14:14:41 GMT
£12 million. Along with the £7 million + for Vokes. Two strikers there with a combined cost of nearly £20 million plus wages. Look their contributions to this football club. It’s enough to make you either weep, throw up, or punch a hole in a wall 😡😡 Just think who we could of purchased with a competent transfer team - Toney, Gayle, Although I don’t think it’s the case now, I’m sure that in the previous poisonous environment we would have been able to make those two shit and worthless as well. Something was fundamentally wrong not just with those we bought, but also what we went on to do with them. Hopefully those days are now over. |
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 3, 2021 14:18:13 GMT
I am I right in thinking him and Vokes cost a combined 20 plus million, add Ince to that and we are over 30 million on 3 attackers who would struggle to get 10 goals between them in a season Appalling |
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Post by spiderpuss on Jan 3, 2021 14:21:14 GMT
I am I right in thinking him and Vokes cost a combined 20 plus million, add Ince to that and we are over 30 million on 3 attackers who would struggle to get 10 goals between them in a season Appalling Lets face it, if you gave someone in the street that much money and said go and buy Stoke some players, they probably would have done a better job. A continuous dreadful recruitment process. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 3, 2021 14:25:52 GMT
£12 million. Along with the £7 million + for Vokes. Two strikers there with a combined cost of nearly £20 million plus wages. Look their contributions to this football club. It’s enough to make you either weep, throw up, or punch a hole in a wall 😡😡 Just think who we could of purchased with a competent transfer team - Toney, Gayle, Assuming the manager of the club wanted them of course... The manager wanted Afobe and made him one of his top targets. |
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 3, 2021 14:26:33 GMT
Lets face it, if you gave someone in the street that much money and said go and buy Stoke some players, they probably would have done a better job. A continuous dreadful recruitment process. It’s killing us, and will continue to do so for another 18 months. |
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Post by nott1 on Jan 3, 2021 16:57:42 GMT
He was a flop first time around!
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Post by bgreen13 on Jan 3, 2021 17:02:34 GMT
Not again, he doesn’t want to play for us.
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Post by lordb on Jan 3, 2021 18:00:56 GMT
Yes. Think he’d do well with Campbell. Plus one of the Scottish lads and that could be the basis of a good strike force to select from Why do you think Campbell is staying Because no one will buy him till he's proven his fitness |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2021 18:15:03 GMT
After talking him up in pre season, then seeing him fail in pre season games, MON was quick and happy to let Afobe leave with a not particularly complimentary goodbye quote. Taking Afobe back would require MON to eat his own words, don't see it happening.
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 3, 2021 18:19:31 GMT
He was a flop first time around! and the rest. Jones shipped him out as well as his flop under Rowett. MO'N made overtures to build him up, gave him a lot of chances pre- season, and eventually decided to get him out of the club. Another few £million flushed down the toilet. |
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Post by lordb on Jan 3, 2021 18:56:09 GMT
After talking him up in pre season, then seeing him fail in pre season games, MON was quick and happy to let Afobe leave with a not particularly complimentary goodbye quote. Taking Afobe back would require MON to eat his own words, don't see it happening. & Neither should it. |
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