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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 30, 2020 16:15:43 GMT
Campbell should start every game, he will get the goals Problem is he’s weak as piss, hasn’t got searing pace, can’t hold the ball up and is blowing after 60 mins. He can finish mind so if he sorts out those issues he will be sound. Just think it’s wrong to place so much expectation on a player who is nowhere near the finished article🤷🏻♂️ Are you talking about a 20 year old lad who got into double figures in half a season? Are there any other 20 year olds that did that last season? He looks quick to me, and strong for a 20 year old. You're already talking about a possible 15-20 goals a season striker in our ranks, and only 20-21, so it's no wonder people get excited
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 30, 2020 16:18:42 GMT
Problem is he’s weak as piss, hasn’t got searing pace, can’t hold the ball up and is blowing after 60 mins. He can finish mind so if he sorts out those issues he will be sound. Just think it’s wrong to place so much expectation on a player who is nowhere near the finished article🤷🏻♂️ Are you talking about a 20 year old lad who got into double figures in half a season? Are there any other 20 year olds that did that last season? He looks quick to me, and strong for a 20 year old. You're already talking about a possible 15-20 goals a season striker in our ranks, and only 20-21, so it's no wonder people get excited Some of the shit written about Campbell should be unbelievable, sadly it isn’t.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 30, 2020 16:22:40 GMT
Are you talking about a 20 year old lad who got into double figures in half a season? Are there any other 20 year olds that did that last season? He looks quick to me, and strong for a 20 year old. You're already talking about a possible 15-20 goals a season striker in our ranks, and only 20-21, so it's no wonder people get excited Some of the shit written about Campbell should be unbelievable, sadly it isn’t. Yeah - definitely think it's better to focus on what he can do, rather than what he can't do. Surely any club in our league would be excited to think what he could do - having done this in 6 months as a just-turned 20yo Best goal ratios (strikers who played 1000 mins and more):1. Mitrovic (Fulham) 26 goals 3589 mins (1 every 138 mins) 2. Taylor (Charlton) 11 goals 1600 mins ( 145 mins) 3. Smith (Millwall) 13 goals 1911 mins (147 mins) 4. Austin (WBA) 10 goals 1492 mins (149 mins) 5= Wells (QPR/Bristol C) 18 goals 2784 mins (155 mins) 5= Fletcher (Sheff Wed) 13 goals 2014 mins (155 mins)7. Watkins (Brentford) 24 goals 4128 mins (165 mins) 8. Brewster (Swansea) 10 goals 1663 mins ( 166 mins) 9. Joao (Reading) 7 goals 1194 mins (171 mins) 10. Mounie (Hudders) 8 goals 1403 mins (175 mins) 11. Campbell (Stoke) 9 goals 1603 mins (178 mins) 38. Vokes 5 goals 1688 mins (338 mins)
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 30, 2020 16:24:04 GMT
Problem is he’s weak as piss, hasn’t got searing pace, can’t hold the ball up and is blowing after 60 mins. He can finish mind so if he sorts out those issues he will be sound. Just think it’s wrong to place so much expectation on a player who is nowhere near the finished article🤷🏻♂️ Are you talking about a 20 year old lad who got into double figures in half a season? Are there any other 20 year olds that did that last season? He looks quick to me, and strong for a 20 year old. You're already talking about a possible 15-20 goals a season striker in our ranks, and only 20-21, so it's no wonder people get excited Merely suggesting that maybe relying on Campbell to produce the goods for a promotion push is a little naive due to the fact he is inexperienced and has plenty to learn. Definitely he’s a good finisher and has potential but he shouldn’t be expected to be some kind of saviour. Hopefully he proves me wrong and has a real breakthrough season.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 30, 2020 16:25:34 GMT
Some of the shit written about Campbell should be unbelievable, sadly it isn’t. Yeah - definitely think it's better to focus on what he can do, rather than what he can't do. Surely any club in our league would be excited to think what he could do - having done this in 6 months as a just-turned 20yo Best goal ratios (strikers who played 1000 mins and more):1. Mitrovic (Fulham) 26 goals 3589 mins (1 every 138 mins) 2. Taylor (Charlton) 11 goals 1600 mins ( 145 mins) 3. Smith (Millwall) 13 goals 1911 mins (147 mins) 4. Austin (WBA) 10 goals 1492 mins (149 mins) 5= Wells (QPR/Bristol C) 18 goals 2784 mins (155 mins) 5= Fletcher (Sheff Wed) 13 goals 2014 mins (155 mins)7. Watkins (Brentford) 24 goals 4128 mins (165 mins) 8. Brewster (Swansea) 10 goals 1663 mins ( 166 mins) 9. Joao (Reading) 7 goals 1194 mins (171 mins) 10. Mounie (Hudders) 8 goals 1403 mins (175 mins) 11. Campbell (Stoke) 9 goals 1603 mins (178 mins) 38. Vokes 5 goals 1688 mins (338 mins)Fletcher and Campbell either as a 2 or with Campbell on the right just makes sense doesn’t it? Add Powell behind Fletcher and Clucas arriving late and you have the makings of a really exciting attack. Add a winger with pace and trickery on the left and you’re laughing.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 30, 2020 16:26:13 GMT
Are you talking about a 20 year old lad who got into double figures in half a season? Are there any other 20 year olds that did that last season? He looks quick to me, and strong for a 20 year old. You're already talking about a possible 15-20 goals a season striker in our ranks, and only 20-21, so it's no wonder people get excited Merely suggesting that maybe relying on Campbell to produce the goods for a promotion push is a little naive due to the fact he is inexperienced and has plenty to learn. Definitely he’s a good finisher and has potential but he shouldn’t be expected to be some kind of saviour. Hopefully he proves me wrong and has a real breakthrough season. That happened already 😂🤦♂️
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 30, 2020 16:28:13 GMT
Some of the shit written about Campbell should be unbelievable, sadly it isn’t. Yeah - definitely think it's better to focus on what he can do, rather than what he can't do. Surely any club in our league would be excited to think what he could do - having done this in 6 months as a just-turned 20yo Best goal ratios (strikers who played 1000 mins and more):1. Mitrovic (Fulham) 26 goals 3589 mins (1 every 138 mins) 2. Taylor (Charlton) 11 goals 1600 mins ( 145 mins) 3. Smith (Millwall) 13 goals 1911 mins (147 mins) 4. Austin (WBA) 10 goals 1492 mins (149 mins) 5= Wells (QPR/Bristol C) 18 goals 2784 mins (155 mins) 5= Fletcher (Sheff Wed) 13 goals 2014 mins (155 mins)7. Watkins (Brentford) 24 goals 4128 mins (165 mins) 8. Brewster (Swansea) 10 goals 1663 mins ( 166 mins) 9. Joao (Reading) 7 goals 1194 mins (171 mins) 10. Mounie (Hudders) 8 goals 1403 mins (175 mins) 11. Campbell (Stoke) 9 goals 1603 mins (178 mins) 38. Vokes 5 goals 1688 mins (338 mins)So we've got two of the best goalscorers in the league. I can see where we can score enough goals for promotion, it's defence that worries me
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 30, 2020 16:29:58 GMT
Merely suggesting that maybe relying on Campbell to produce the goods for a promotion push is a little naive due to the fact he is inexperienced and has plenty to learn. Definitely he’s a good finisher and has potential but he shouldn’t be expected to be some kind of saviour. Hopefully he proves me wrong and has a real breakthrough season. That happened already 😂🤦♂️ 9 goals in 37 appearances isn’t double figures in half a season
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 30, 2020 16:32:33 GMT
That happened already 😂🤦♂️ 9 goals in 37 appearances isn’t double figures in half a season 9 goals in 1600 minutes, to be fair though. Which is the equivalent of less than 20 games. And a big chunk of those minutes on the right
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 30, 2020 16:32:52 GMT
That happened already 😂🤦♂️ 9 goals in 37 appearances isn’t double figures in half a season You want him to have a breakthrough season to prove you wrong. As I said, it happened already.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 30, 2020 16:36:30 GMT
9 goals in 37 appearances isn’t double figures in half a season 9 goals in 1600 minutes, to be fair though. Which is the equivalent of less than 20 games. And a big chunk of those minutes on the right And a fair amount of sub appearances. His breakthrough performance was huddersfield away and I think it's clear to anyone with eyes that he's a very good player at this level already, other teams have made special arrangements for him when he's played and the whole team has benefited from more space, so I'm bemused by someone posting on here 'let's see if he comes good' when he already has come good. Jesus
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 30, 2020 16:39:01 GMT
9 goals in 37 appearances isn’t double figures in half a season You want him to have a breakthrough season to prove you wrong. As I said, it happened already. OK I mean as a regular goal scorer. Once again you’ve got the wrong end of the stick and ran with it. I’m saying we shouldn’t rely on Tyrese Campbell to score the goals to get us pushing for promotion. He’s shown glimpses of promise last season let’s hope he can build on it this season. But in order to score say 20 goals will require huge improvement.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 30, 2020 16:41:06 GMT
You want him to have a breakthrough season to prove you wrong. As I said, it happened already. OK I mean as a regular goal scorer. Once again you’ve got the wrong end of the stick and ran with it. I’m saying we shouldn’t rely on Tyrese Campbell to score the goals to get us pushing for promotion. He’s shown glimpses of promise last season let’s hope he can build on it this season. But in order to score say 20 goals will require huge improvement. He has. I haven’t got any wrong of the stick. You’re talking nonsense.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 30, 2020 16:42:34 GMT
OK I mean as a regular goal scorer. Once again you’ve got the wrong end of the stick and ran with it. I’m saying we shouldn’t rely on Tyrese Campbell to score the goals to get us pushing for promotion. He’s shown glimpses of promise last season let’s hope he can build on it this season. But in order to score say 20 goals will require huge improvement. He has. I haven’t got any wrong of the stick. You’re talking nonsense. Fair enough. Let’s see what happens shall we. I’ll be delighted to be proved wrong
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 30, 2020 16:53:29 GMT
Our only striker with pace, play him! Afobe? OK, Afobe has decent pace, but nothing like Campbell I'd say.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 30, 2020 16:57:59 GMT
OK, Afobe has decent pace, but nothing like Campbell I'd say. Just didn’t know who you were on about as it’s an Afobe thread but recent posts about Campbell. Don’t think either have got great pace to be honest, hopefully in a couple of years Campbell can add an extra yard.
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 30, 2020 17:00:22 GMT
OK, Afobe has decent pace, but nothing like Campbell I'd say. Just didn’t know who you were on about as it’s an Afobe thread but recent posts about Campbell. Don’t think either have got great pace to be honest, hopefully in a couple of years Campbell can add an extra yard. I really think Campbell is fast and will outpace most defenders with ease.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2020 17:07:11 GMT
I agree - at the moment I don't think Campbell has the all round game to form a partnership in a front 2 - he doesn't contribute enough off the ball. I think his best option at theoment is as the wildcard in a front 3. He scores goals and is the best finisher at the club. Off the ball doesn’t come into it does it? So you’re happy to play with 10 men and a luxury goal scorer when we don’t create chances?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 30, 2020 17:18:40 GMT
He scores goals and is the best finisher at the club. Off the ball doesn’t come into it does it? So you’re happy to play with 10 men and a luxury goal scorer when we don’t create chances? A goalscorer isn’t a luxury 🤦♂️
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Post by questionable on Aug 30, 2020 17:20:31 GMT
Afobe isn’t the answer but Stoke need a return on their outlay, same can be said for Vokes.
Big problem is that they’re so isolated they don’t stand a chance against any half decent CH in this league, then there’s our disjointed midfield, mad tactics and then our crap defence.
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Post by pottersrule on Aug 30, 2020 17:49:08 GMT
There were plenty of times when Powell was in an offensive position v Blackpool and either wanted to much time,picked the wrong pass or simply passed straight to the opposition he was awful today.I really don't know what Thompson has done to be singled out.He was probably the pick of a woeful midfield today.Smith was invisible and McClean and Clucas both underperformed. On the subject of Smith, I thought his performance was weird. As a full back one of his strengths is his attacking play and he always looks happy when he is in the attacking third of the pitch. Yesterday I assumed he would fit easily into the role of a wing back. But most of the time he didn't even look as if he was playing at wing back. So we ended up with a right wing back who didn't attack and a left wing back (McClean) who didn't defend. No wonder we looked disjointed. If both are fit I'd be playing Edwards & Tymon as my wing backs if we use that formation on Tuesday. All indications point to us sticking to that formation with the players we have at our disposal,Tymon and Edwards certainly need game time so that's definitely worth a look.
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Post by pottersrule on Aug 30, 2020 17:59:16 GMT
Are you talking about a 20 year old lad who got into double figures in half a season? Are there any other 20 year olds that did that last season? He looks quick to me, and strong for a 20 year old. You're already talking about a possible 15-20 goals a season striker in our ranks, and only 20-21, so it's no wonder people get excited Some of the shit written about Campbell should be unbelievable, sadly it isn’t. Well he certainly hasn't got searing pace,his hold up play isn't good and he does have fitness issues.Wasn't that way off the mark was it?
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 30, 2020 18:10:42 GMT
Depends what you call 'searing'. I'd certainly describe him as fast. Look at the way he motors past the Brentford player here....
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 30, 2020 18:22:07 GMT
Depends what you call 'searing'. I'd certainly describe him as fast. Look at the way he motors past the Brentford player here.... The question should really be who partners him, rather than should he start, its a no brainer that he's the first name on the team sheet and Afobe for me isn't the guy, he's average at best and I think he'd get more from Fletcher too with his experience of the league etc.
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Post by biglad180 on Aug 30, 2020 18:27:20 GMT
Campbell should start every game, he will get the goals Problem is he’s weak as piss, hasn’t got searing pace, can’t hold the ball up and is blowing after 60 mins. He can finish mind so if he sorts out those issues he will be sound. Just think it’s wrong to place so much expectation on a player who is nowhere near the finished article🤷🏻♂️ natural goalscorer mate he will hit 20 given the games
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 30, 2020 18:30:01 GMT
Problem is he’s weak as piss, hasn’t got searing pace, can’t hold the ball up and is blowing after 60 mins. He can finish mind so if he sorts out those issues he will be sound. Just think it’s wrong to place so much expectation on a player who is nowhere near the finished article🤷🏻♂️ natural goalscorer mate he will hit 20 given the games Hope so👍🏻
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 30, 2020 18:30:02 GMT
Depends what you call 'searing'. I'd certainly describe him as fast. Look at the way he motors past the Brentford player here.... The question should really be who partners him, rather than should he start, its a no brainer that he's the first name on the team sheet and Afobe for me isn't the guy, he's average at best and I think he'd get more from Fletcher too with his experience of the league etc. Yeah but he’s a young player from the academy so yer know, why isn’t scoring 20 already? I absolutely fucking despair.
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Post by lordb on Aug 30, 2020 19:06:57 GMT
He scores goals and is the best finisher at the club. Off the ball doesn’t come into it does it? So you’re happy to play with 10 men and a luxury goal scorer when we don’t create chances? Goal scorers aren't luxuries, they are essential
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 30, 2020 19:16:15 GMT
So you’re happy to play with 10 men and a luxury goal scorer when we don’t create chances? Goal scorers aren't luxuries, they are essential Quite right Lordb and we don’t have any. Yet.....
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Post by thehoof on Aug 30, 2020 19:53:33 GMT
He scores goals and is the best finisher at the club. Off the ball doesn’t come into it does it? So you’re happy to play with 10 men and a luxury goal scorer when we don’t create chances? Why not? We played two seasons with a luxury right winger who couldn’t create and needed 20 shots for every goal he scored. Tachyon could probably tell us, but I would think that Campbell has our best chance conversion rate. It certainly won’t be Gregory, Afobe- perhaps Vokes would surprise us? Tachyon- any help you can give?
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