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Post by prettything on Jan 4, 2020 22:18:41 GMT
Completely agree with the last paragraph, mate. Trump won’t get impeached. Everything you have said, are reasons why he won’t . The first bit? Nah . The US hadn’t been at war with Iran for “a long time”. In fact there has been peace. (See the treaty that Obama and the west signed with them,regarding non nuclear proliferation) “Attacked one of their embassies?” Come on. That’s a dubious reason to say the least , considering no one was hurt, and most of the damage was done by protesters who were angry at the US, new, hawkish policy towards Iran. Considering the regime change that was directly influenced by the US over 40 years ago, it’s fair to say the US aren’t popular in Iran. If you think that the US has a divine right to assassinate someone, without consensus or dialogue, with anybody else’s opinion or judgement, then it’s a very dangerous road we are going down//already on. You don’t think it’s about oil? Then why didn’t the US get involved in the Congo, Zimbabwe or Burma? Where to start peace well if you ignore the 1500 protestors killed, the many thousands injured... Do you not even know what Iran has been upto ? They werent protestors who attacked the embassy they were some of the dead dickless cunts militia. And no its not about oil the usa gets less than 20% of its oil from the middle east most comes from canada. The funny thing is all the the things you criticise the usa the iranians have been doing in spades in many many countries haven't seen any condemnation of Iran. Where to start, indeed. Completely agree. That there have been atrocities committed by a section of the Iranian leadership. (The more conservative supreme leader versus parliament, which has been an internal power struggle for a long time) Also, it can’t be debated that the man in question, assassinated by the US, wasn’t a huge part for such atrocities. To think that such an act was a selfless act, to “stop a war, before a war could begin”. Is naive at best. Considering the internal power struggle within Iran, an aggressive, foreign action, like we have just seen, will do the complete opposite of what was intended. Such an action will mobilise the more conservative, aggressive side of the ruling party within Iran, who will rightfully view the assassination as an act of aggression on their homeland. This isn’t an act of charity or “humane extermination”, on behalf of the US. This is an act of war , with the main aim of finally completing the last part of the US endgame, of regime change in the Middle East. Iran was the last play to make, to achieve this goal.
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Post by prettything on Jan 4, 2020 22:21:18 GMT
Completely agree with the last paragraph, mate. Trump won’t get impeached. Everything you have said is the reason why he won’t . The first bit? Nah . The US hadn’t been at war with Iran for “a long time”. In fact there has been peace. (See the treaty that Obama and the west signed with them,regarding non nuclear proliferation) “Attacked one of their embassies?” Come on. That’s a dubious reason to say the least , considering no one was hurt, and most of the damage was done by protesters who were angry at the US, new, hawkish policy towards Iran. Considering the regime change that was directly influenced by the US over 40 years ago, it’s fair to say the US aren’t popular in Iran. If you think that the US has a divine right to assassinate someone, without consensus or dialogue, with anybody else’s opinion or judgement, them it’s a very dangerous road we are going down//already on. You don’t think it’s about oil? Then why didn’t the US get involved in the Congo, Zimbabwe or Burma? They've been 'warring' for ages. Politically, cyber, trade, sanctions and covert ops. There will never be a conventional war between Iran and the US. It would be a training exercise for the Americans. Everyone has a right to protect their sovereign interests. If that includes a drone strike then so be it. Probably because the regimes in Congo, Zimbabwe or Burma haven't brainwashed their hardcore citizens to hate the US or spent decades and billions trying to kill and destroy US and Western interests. “Sovereign interests?” What do you mean by that?
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Post by vokeswagen on Jan 4, 2020 22:24:20 GMT
I’m not even reading that cause it’s $#!t. You’re just £@#&!n about in lies again & as for the Bankers paying all the bailout back🤣🤣🤣 Go & get some rest, it’s been a long emotional day. Nurse! It's not shit. It's the truth. That you don't know because it doesn't fit your 'bankers are bad' lefty bollocks. You're not reading it because it proves you're wrong. Child. Says the guy who's done nothing but strawman and cry all bastard day
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 4, 2020 22:24:56 GMT
They've been 'warring' for ages. Politically, cyber, trade, sanctions and covert ops. There will never be a conventional war between Iran and the US. It would be a training exercise for the Americans. Everyone has a right to protect their sovereign interests. If that includes a drone strike then so be it. Probably because the regimes in Congo, Zimbabwe or Burma haven't brainwashed their hardcore citizens to hate the US or spent decades and billions trying to kill and destroy US and Western interests. “Sovereign interests?” What do you mean by that? Embassies, American owned industrial complexes, military bases etc, etc.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 4, 2020 22:25:47 GMT
It's not shit. It's the truth. That you don't know because it doesn't fit your 'bankers are bad' lefty bollocks. You're not reading it because it proves you're wrong. Child. Says the guy who's done nothing but strawman and cry all bastard day You still up? Bit late for you isn't it?
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Post by vokeswagen on Jan 4, 2020 22:28:08 GMT
Says the guy who's done nothing but strawman and cry all bastard day You still up? Bit late for you isn't it? No mate. I'll come and tuck you in if you like
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Post by prettything on Jan 4, 2020 22:37:20 GMT
“Sovereign interests?” What do you mean by that? Embassies, American owned industrial complexes, military bases etc, etc. Acts of war can’t be initiated because an embassy gets trashed. Surely? There aren’t any Iranian military bases surrounding the US. It’s interesting there are dozens around Iran... I wonder why that is?
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Post by bathstoke on Jan 4, 2020 23:05:01 GMT
Oh look, Rogers deflecting again by getting a new moniker. Boring💤 Deflecting from what? Your total bollocks about the banking bailout or your total bollocks about no one being "sent down" for slave compensation on a thread about politics in the Middle East. You are such a bu!!$#!tter. All £@#&!n day with your $#!t. Do you work in sales by any chance...
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 4, 2020 23:15:34 GMT
You still up? Bit late for you isn't it? No mate. I'll come and tuck you in if you like I've heard you're good at turning up at the foot a people's beds. After an accident as well. What a prick.
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Post by prettything on Jan 4, 2020 23:20:30 GMT
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Post by vokeswagen on Jan 4, 2020 23:21:25 GMT
Embassies, American owned industrial complexes, military bases etc, etc. Acts of war can’t be initiated because an embassy gets trashed. Surely? There aren’t any Iranian military bases surrounding the US. It’s interesting there are dozens around Iran... I wonder why that is? You're quite right, it's an escalation whichever way you look at it. America operates on a "do as I say, not as I do" basis. This erodes its moral authority on various issues, including nuclear weaponry and support for terrorist states. These are the crux issues in its spat with Iran*, since America is guilty of the very things it's asking Iran not to do on a geopolitical level. Iran, whether you agree with it or not, is taking a "why should we meet different standards to the ones you're willing to meet?" approach. America is of course free to try and force Iran to bend to its will. Such is the privilege of being the world's mightiest military power. But to expect this process to be easy would be grossly naive. Still, that's been a hallmark of American foreign policy for some years now * THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OIL, HONEST 😂
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Post by vokeswagen on Jan 4, 2020 23:23:05 GMT
No mate. I'll come and tuck you in if you like I've heard you're good at turning up at the foot a people's beds. After an accident as well. What a prick. What are you on about you weapon?! Do us all a favour and go to bed.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 4, 2020 23:25:44 GMT
Embassies, American owned industrial complexes, military bases etc, etc. Acts of war can’t be initiated because an embassy gets trashed. Surely? There aren’t any Iranian military bases surrounding the US. It’s interesting there are dozens around Iran... I wonder why that is? Acts of war are what you think they are. Surely Iran doesn't consider the death one man the reason to start a war? Of course they do. Did the US think killing 3,000 in 9/11 was an act of war? Yes. Because Iran are a rogue State and the US have hawkish DNA from fighting native Americans, to kicking out the British or fighting each other in a civil war. They're not conscientious objectors. This isn't only Trump. Condeleeza Rice came out saying the only reason Obama didn't take out Soleimani was that "he didn't get the chance".
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Post by vokeswagen on Jan 4, 2020 23:34:31 GMT
Acts of war can’t be initiated because an embassy gets trashed. Surely? There aren’t any Iranian military bases surrounding the US. It’s interesting there are dozens around Iran... I wonder why that is? Acts of war are what you think they are. Surely Iran doesn't consider the death one man the reason to start a war? Of course they do. Did the US think killing 3,000 in 9/11 was an act of war? Yes. Because Iran are a rogue State and the US have hawkish DNA from fighting native Americans, to kicking out the British or fighting each other in a civil war. They're not conscientious objectors. This isn't only Trump. Condeleeza Rice came out saying the only reason Obama didn't take out Soleimani was that "he didn't get the chance". This would be the same Condoleeza Rice that had nothing at all to do with the Obama administration, yeah? Besides which, for the umpteenth time today, your logic is liquid shit. Just because Obama wanted to do something doesn't make it okay. You're really not very bright.
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Post by prettything on Jan 4, 2020 23:37:02 GMT
Acts of war can’t be initiated because an embassy gets trashed. Surely? There aren’t any Iranian military bases surrounding the US. It’s interesting there are dozens around Iran... I wonder why that is? Acts of war are what you think they are. Surely Iran doesn't consider the death one man the reason to start a war? Of course they do. Did the US think killing 3,000 in 9/11 was an act of war? Yes. Because Iran are a rogue State and the US have hawkish DNA from fighting native Americans, to kicking out the British or fighting each other in a civil war. They're not conscientious objectors. This isn't only Trump. Condeleeza Rice came out saying the only reason Obama didn't take out Soleimani was that "he didn't get the chance". First of all, Rice isn’t a valid example to quote from, because she was one of the major factors of why we are in this situation in the first place. (Part of the Bush administration which invaded Iraq and kicked off the continued destabilisation of the Middle East,and the creation of ISIS) Who labelled Iran a rogue state? The US. It doesn’t mean that’s fact, however. The US do indeed have a hawkish DNA, completely agree. However, I don’t agree with the DNA thing. It’s not biological. Foreign policy can be changed at any time. It depends on the will of the people,influencing the decision makers. It can be changed. Please watch my link. It’s a fantastic watch! (It does sound complicated, it really isn’t !)
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Post by prettything on Jan 4, 2020 23:38:45 GMT
Watch this first. It might save 2h 46m of your life by not listening to the biggest conspiracy theory from a thinking man's David Icke. ? What do I need to watch?
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Post by Little Gary Patel on Jan 4, 2020 23:41:23 GMT
:lol: Heads completely gone
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 4, 2020 23:43:53 GMT
Acts of war are what you think they are. Surely Iran doesn't consider the death one man the reason to start a war? Of course they do. Did the US think killing 3,000 in 9/11 was an act of war? Yes. Because Iran are a rogue State and the US have hawkish DNA from fighting native Americans, to kicking out the British or fighting each other in a civil war. They're not conscientious objectors. This isn't only Trump. Condeleeza Rice came out saying the only reason Obama didn't take out Soleimani was that "he didn't get the chance". This would be the same Condoleeza Rice that had nothing at all to do with the Obama administration, yeah? Besides which, for the umpteenth time today, your logic is liquid shit. Just because Obama wanted to do something doesn't make it okay. You're really not very bright. Bold type, italics, smiling emojis after some weak insult. You've not changed.
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Post by bathstoke on Jan 4, 2020 23:46:17 GMT
Hold on to your hats folks.... We’ll all need our hats on, cause it kicking off here, nevermind there💋
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 4, 2020 23:47:29 GMT
Acts of war are what you think they are. Surely Iran doesn't consider the death one man the reason to start a war? Of course they do. Did the US think killing 3,000 in 9/11 was an act of war? Yes. Because Iran are a rogue State and the US have hawkish DNA from fighting native Americans, to kicking out the British or fighting each other in a civil war. They're not conscientious objectors. This isn't only Trump. Condeleeza Rice came out saying the only reason Obama didn't take out Soleimani was that "he didn't get the chance". First of all, Rice isn’t a valid example to quote from, because she was one of the major factors of why we are in this situation in the first place. (Part of the Bush administration which invaded Iraq and kicked off the continued destabilisation of the Middle East,and the creation of ISIS) Who labelled Iran a rogue state? The US. It doesn’t mean that’s fact, however. The US do indeed have a hawkish DNA, completely agree. However, I don’t agree with the DNA thing. It’s not biological. Foreign policy can be changed at any time. It depends on the will of the people,influencing the decision makers. It can be changed. Please watch my link. It’s a fantastic watch! (It does sound complicated, it really isn’t !) Obama dropped more bombs than almost any other President. There's never been a dove President. DNA is an expression. The vast majority of American citizens are hawkish. I've watched Hypernormalisation thanks. At best it's a stretch. I thought most of it was cobblers.
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Post by vokeswagen on Jan 4, 2020 23:49:00 GMT
This would be the same Condoleeza Rice that had nothing at all to do with the Obama administration, yeah? Besides which, for the umpteenth time today, your logic is liquid shit. Just because Obama wanted to do something doesn't make it okay. You're really not very bright. Bold type, italics, smiling emojis after some weak insult. You've not changed. Only bold type in the post you've quoted mate. No italics. No And you've spent the entire day strawmanning and undermining your own arguments. You're really not very bright
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 4, 2020 23:50:24 GMT
Watch this first. It might save 2h 46m of your life by not listening to the biggest conspiracy theory from a thinking man's David Icke.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 4, 2020 23:52:05 GMT
Deflecting from what? Your total bollocks about the banking bailout or your total bollocks about no one being "sent down" for slave compensation on a thread about politics in the Middle East. You are such a bu!!$#!tter. All £@#&!n day with your $#!t. Do you work in sales by any chance... Is that bullshitter, fucking and shit? What's wrong? Your mum got the child lock on?
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Post by vokeswagen on Jan 4, 2020 23:53:23 GMT
First of all, Rice isn’t a valid example to quote from, because she was one of the major factors of why we are in this situation in the first place. (Part of the Bush administration which invaded Iraq and kicked off the continued destabilisation of the Middle East,and the creation of ISIS) Who labelled Iran a rogue state? The US. It doesn’t mean that’s fact, however. The US do indeed have a hawkish DNA, completely agree. However, I don’t agree with the DNA thing. It’s not biological. Foreign policy can be changed at any time. It depends on the will of the people,influencing the decision makers. It can be changed. Please watch my link. It’s a fantastic watch! (It does sound complicated, it really isn’t !) Obama dropped more bombs than almost any other President. There's never been a dove President. DNA is an expression. The vast majority of American citizens are hawkish. I've watched Hypernormalisation thanks. At best it's a stretch. I thought most of it was cobblers. You would think it was cobblers because you're exactly the sort of imbecile that falls for that type of thing
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Post by prettything on Jan 4, 2020 23:56:31 GMT
Watch this first. It might save 2h 46m of your life by not listening to the biggest conspiracy theory from a thinking man's David Icke. Cool. I will watch it, as long as you watch my link . Deal?
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Post by vokeswagen on Jan 4, 2020 23:58:30 GMT
Watch this first. It might save 2h 46m of your life by not listening to the biggest conspiracy theory from a thinking man's David Icke. Again, straight from the alt right playbook. No attempt whatsoever to refute the points made in Hypernormalisation. Just a wank parody. Attack the style, avoid the substance. Not very bright.
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Post by thevoid on Jan 4, 2020 23:59:45 GMT
Acts of war are what you think they are. Surely Iran doesn't consider the death one man the reason to start a war? Of course they do. Did the US think killing 3,000 in 9/11 was an act of war? Yes. Because Iran are a rogue State and the US have hawkish DNA from fighting native Americans, to kicking out the British or fighting each other in a civil war. They're not conscientious objectors. This isn't only Trump. Condeleeza Rice came out saying the only reason Obama didn't take out Soleimani was that "he didn't get the chance". This would be the same Condoleeza Rice that had nothing at all to do with the Obama administration, yeah? Besides which, for the umpteenth time today, your logic is liquid shit. Just because Obama wanted to do something doesn't make it okay. You're really not very bright. Are you capable of getting a point across without insults and childish metaphors? And try and stick to the one sobriquet while you're at it. Fella 😎
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 5, 2020 0:04:04 GMT
Watch this first. It might save 2h 46m of your life by not listening to the biggest conspiracy theory from a thinking man's David Icke. Cool. I will watch it, as long as you watch my link . Deal? I've watched Hypernormalisation.
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Post by prettything on Jan 5, 2020 0:08:18 GMT
Cool. I will watch it, as long as you watch my link . Deal? I've watched Hypernormalisation. Then fuck off with your Icke comparisons!😂 No reptile bullshit with this documentary ! I will watch your recommendation, however.
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Post by vokeswagen on Jan 5, 2020 0:15:10 GMT
This would be the same Condoleeza Rice that had nothing at all to do with the Obama administration, yeah? Besides which, for the umpteenth time today, your logic is liquid shit. Just because Obama wanted to do something doesn't make it okay. You're really not very bright. Are you capable of getting a point across without insults and childish metaphors? And try and stick to the one sobriquet while you're at it. Fella 😎 The irony 😂
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