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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 5, 2020 0:15:57 GMT
And people on here wanted this lot running the country. Shameful.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 5, 2020 0:20:07 GMT
Relax everyone. It's all under control.
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Post by vokeswagen on Jan 5, 2020 0:32:22 GMT
Relax everyone. It's all under control. What exactly is under control mate?
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Post by vokeswagen on Jan 5, 2020 0:40:29 GMT
Just going to repost the video Boothen posted earlier in the thread
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Post by bathstoke on Jan 5, 2020 1:00:36 GMT
I've watched Hypernormalisation. Then fuck off with your Icke comparisons!😂 No reptile bullshit with this documentary ! I will watch your recommendation, however. He wouldn't understand Hyper-normalisation. It’d undermine his sensibilities.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 5, 2020 1:49:11 GMT
Then fuck off with your Icke comparisons!😂 No reptile bullshit with this documentary ! I will watch your recommendation, however. He wouldn't understand Hyper-normalisation. It’d undermine his sensibilities. It's. Not. True.
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Post by salopstick on Jan 5, 2020 7:29:11 GMT
Sas sent in to retrieve British holiday makers.
Who the fuck goes to Iran on holiday
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Post by hoffgreen on Jan 5, 2020 8:14:50 GMT
Sas sent in to retrieve British holiday makers. Who the fuck goes to Iran on holiday "British Nationals" .... in other words people from that region who have a bit of paper saying they're a British citizen.
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Post by zerps on Jan 5, 2020 8:16:16 GMT
Sas sent in to retrieve British holiday makers. Who the fuck goes to Iran on holiday They’ve been there since Thomas Cook went bump
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Post by serpico on Jan 5, 2020 8:47:48 GMT
Americas Iran policy is driven by saudi and israeli interests, they don't plough millions into political campaigns for nothing, anyone who thinks this is actually about "getting the bad guys" is pretty naive.
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 5, 2020 9:01:28 GMT
Wonder if Trump has a remote like mine , but where as I hit my red button I get the news , he presses his red button and wipes out Iran
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Post by bathstoke on Jan 5, 2020 9:04:49 GMT
Wonder if Trump has a remote like mine , but where as I hit my red button I get the news , he presses his red button and wipes out Iran That’s what he says. 52 targets just waiting for his twitchy trigger fingers attention👉🏻
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 5, 2020 9:04:59 GMT
Hopefully we stay well out of it. Agree, the whole middle east is a religious mess, a pity oil was discovered there. Bang on there , if there was no oil in the Middle East nobody would give a shit what goes on there
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Post by bathstoke on Jan 5, 2020 9:07:40 GMT
Agree, the whole middle east is a religious mess, a pity oil was discovered there. Bang on there , if there was no oil in the Middle East nobody would give a shit what goes on there Same as gold & diamonds in S Africa in the 19thC.
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Post by salopstick on Jan 5, 2020 9:14:46 GMT
The reason why there is tension in the Middle East is because it is hot
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 5, 2020 10:01:11 GMT
Putting.full.stops.between.words.does.not.make.it.any.less.true. I.dont. need.to.read.your.words.to.know.you.are.daft.racist.and.a.cunt
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Jan 5, 2020 10:03:45 GMT
He wouldn't understand Hyper-normalisation. It’d undermine his sensibilities. It's. Not. True. As a mere observer on this thread just checking that bold type is a no-no, but full stops between each word is articulating your point?
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 5, 2020 10:11:26 GMT
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Post by bathstoke on Jan 5, 2020 10:30:52 GMT
As a mere observer on this thread just checking that bold type is a no-no, but full stops between each word is articulating your point? It’s a bit like the bastardisation of Anglo-Saxon in the 11thC. 😁
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 10:45:01 GMT
I took Rogers advice and watched closely what Raab had to say on the BBC this morning.
He appears to have changed his rhetoric somewhat. And as a lawyer he clearly didn’t specialise in International Law that’s for sure......
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 5, 2020 10:52:49 GMT
Don't most threads now degenerate into pro-Trump/anti-Trump, pro BREXIT/ anti BREXIT, Pro Boris/ anti Boris, proLabour/ anti Labour.... irrespective of any facts/ developments etc...and " what is happening" can be interpreted any way you want?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 11:01:33 GMT
Don't most threads now degenerate into pro-Trump/anti-Trump, pro BREXIT/ anti BREXIT, Pro Boris/ anti Boris, proLabour/ anti Labour.... irrespective of any facts/ developments etc...and " what is happening" can be interpreted any way you want? The president is irrelevant whilst the imperialism of countries such as America continues. You’ll get no argument about Obama’s record from me, he has blood on his hands particularly in Libya.....
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 5, 2020 11:11:32 GMT
Don't most threads now degenerate into pro-Trump/anti-Trump, pro BREXIT/ anti BREXIT, Pro Boris/ anti Boris, proLabour/ anti Labour.... irrespective of any facts/ developments etc...and " what is happening" can be interpreted any way you want? The president is irrelevant whilst the imperialism of countries such as America continues. You’ll get no argument about Obama’s record from me, he has blood on his hands particularly in Libya..... Aye, I should have added..... pro America/ anti America and possibly pro UK/ anti UK
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Post by vokeswagen on Jan 5, 2020 12:35:28 GMT
Don't most threads now degenerate into pro-Trump/anti-Trump, pro BREXIT/ anti BREXIT, Pro Boris/ anti Boris, proLabour/ anti Labour.... irrespective of any facts/ developments etc...and " what is happening" can be interpreted any way you want? There are facts about this situation that can't be interpreted any way you want. They are simply facts One is that whether or not you think this action was justified, it IS an escalation and it IS an act of war. Rightly or wrongly convention has it that openly assassinating the senior official of another sovereign power is in a totally different ballpark to Obama's drone strikes (with their awful collateral damage) or him taking sides in civil wars. This is how the attack is seen on an international stage and the consequences will play out accordingly. People on Twatter can point out the inconsistency of such conventions to their hearts content but this is the way the real world works. Diplomacy and geopolitics are normally conducted with the pragmatic belief that these 'rules of engagement' are far from perfect but that they exist for a reason. Another fact: 'they started it' never ends well
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 5, 2020 12:50:09 GMT
Don't most threads now degenerate into pro-Trump/anti-Trump, pro BREXIT/ anti BREXIT, Pro Boris/ anti Boris, proLabour/ anti Labour.... irrespective of any facts/ developments etc...and " what is happening" can be interpreted any way you want? There are facts about this situation that can't be interpreted any way you want. They are simply facts One is that whether or not you think this action was justified, it IS an escalation and it IS an act of war. Rightly or wrongly convention has it that openly assassinating the senior official of another sovereign power is in a totally different ballpark to Obama's drone strikes (with their awful collateral damage) or him taking sides in civil wars. This is how the attack is seen on an international stage and the consequences will play out accordingly. People on Twatter can point out the inconsistency of such conventions to their hearts content but this is the way the real world works. Diplomacy and geopolitics are normally conducted with the pragmatic belief that these 'rules of engagement' are far from perfect but that they exist for a reason. Another fact: 'they started it' never ends well Not necessarily. Most if not all of that is opinion.... or your interpretation of the " facts". Most of us have not got a definitive clue about what is going on and what the next stage will be/ or would have been without the action of the US
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Post by vokeswagen on Jan 5, 2020 12:58:13 GMT
There are facts about this situation that can't be interpreted any way you want. They are simply facts One is that whether or not you think this action was justified, it IS an escalation and it IS an act of war. Rightly or wrongly convention has it that openly assassinating the senior official of another sovereign power is in a totally different ballpark to Obama's drone strikes (with their awful collateral damage) or him taking sides in civil wars. This is how the attack is seen on an international stage and the consequences will play out accordingly. People on Twatter can point out the inconsistency of such conventions to their hearts content but this is the way the real world works. Diplomacy and geopolitics are normally conducted with the pragmatic belief that these 'rules of engagement' are far from perfect but that they exist for a reason. Another fact: 'they started it' never ends well Not necessarily. Most if not all of that is opinion.... or your interpretation of the " facts". Most of us have not got a definitive clue about what is going on and what the next stage will be/ or would have been without the action of the US No mate. It's not my opinion. It's how the real world operates. This action IS an escalation. Fact. The end
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 5, 2020 13:00:25 GMT
Not necessarily. Most if not all of that is opinion.... or your interpretation of the " facts". Most of us have not got a definitive clue about what is going on and what the next stage will be/ or would have been without the action of the US No mate. It's not my opinion. It's how the real world operates. This action IS an escalation. Fact. The end Just opinion. Probably more to do with being anti USA/ anti Trump. There are many views on how the real world operates.
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Post by vokeswagen on Jan 5, 2020 13:02:31 GMT
No mate. It's not my opinion. It's how the real world operates. This action IS an escalation. Fact. The end Just opinion. Probably more to do with being anti USA/ anti Trump. There are many views on how the real world operates. It isn't an opinion. It is a fact that assassinating a senior official of a sovereign power is seen in geopolitical terms as a very big deal indeed. If you don't agree with that fact then that's your right. But it is a fact
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 13:14:07 GMT
Soleamani is accused of leading an organisation that forces regime change against the will of those nations by foul means.
So no different to the CIA or MI6 then? Western hypocrisy at its finest
Selling weapons to whichever terrorist organisation we support at the time, organisation covert operations to bring down “the enemy” is ok, as long as they’re on the “right side”
And when you raise it you’re accused of treachery by the usual bloody thirsty warmongers that still haven’t had the good grace to admit that Western policy over the last 30 years has been an unmitigated disaster......
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 5, 2020 13:14:18 GMT
Just opinion. Probably more to do with being anti USA/ anti Trump. There are many views on how the real world operates. It isn't an opinion. It is a fact that assassinating a senior official of a sovereign power is seen in geopolitical terms as a very big deal indeed. If you don't agree with that fact then that's your right. But it is a fact Some geopolitical people might see it differently. If you do , that is your right.
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