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Post by Veritas on Jan 2, 2020 17:38:22 GMT
Huddersfield’s first goal: Very poor defending by Batth who failed to stop the run of the goal scorer from about 12 yards, which provided a clear heading opportunity. Huddersfields second goal:Same level of defending by Indi this time who missed the cross Anyone wishing to check the above please watch Quest. Those not interested, but simply want to slate Butland don’t bother Agree fully about the first goal, not down to Butland who also did make a couple of really saves in the game. However the second goal all down to Jack, what on earth was he thinking punching it down into a mass of players! It was awful decision making, I think it was catchable but if he was going to punch it had to be high and away towards the far touchline.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 17:59:24 GMT
I've just watched the goals again.... for the umpteenth time. Butland was in a good position for the 1st goal,but instead of taking another step out and jumping to catch or punch the ball he takes a step back so he's right on the goal line....the Huddersfield player was no more than 5 yards out too and almost in line with Butland so it's not as if the ball was too high for him as it came in,it was on a downward trajectory at that point. The 2nd one Bruno does obscure his line of sight so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on that one. That's my final word on the subject ,onwards and upwards
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jan 2, 2020 18:06:12 GMT
Huddersfield’s first goal: Very poor defending by Batth who failed to stop the run of the goal scorer from about 12 yards, which provided a clear heading opportunity. Huddersfields second goal:Same level of defending by Indi this time who missed the cross Anyone wishing to check the above please watch Quest. Those not interested, but simply want to slate Butland don’t bother Agree fully about the first goal, not down to Butland who also did make a couple of really saves in the game. However the second goal all down to Jack, what on earth was he thinking punching it down into a mass of players! It was awful decision making, I think it was catchable but if he was going to punch it had to be high and away towards the far touchline. I think the speed and low trajectory of the ball made it a difficult save to make, split second thinking!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 2, 2020 18:08:16 GMT
How is it wow? Butland has been the worst keeper in the league bar none. A complete liability. Getting close to double figures for goals he shouldn’t have let in. How is it wow? Actually, there was a considerably worse keeper on the same pitch yesterday, at the other end. It's difficult to take too seriously a comment that he's the worst in the league. He is though. No one has been at fault for as many goals as he has and none have a worst shot saving percentage. Combine that with watching him be useless week in, week out and you have the worst goalie in the league. Theirs was only at fault for one not the two ours was as well yesterday.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 2, 2020 18:46:32 GMT
Wonder if there's any chance they'll be back in?
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Post by jeycov on Jan 2, 2020 19:09:27 GMT
Maybe under instructions from our new coaching set up Not to be a prick but under who else’s instruction would it be? Campbell under instruction to place himself on the edge of the box- we rarely had a player there
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Post by jeycov on Jan 2, 2020 19:10:24 GMT
Not to be a prick but under who else’s instruction would it be? Campbell under instruction to place himself on the edge of the box- we rarely had a player there
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Post by wolfinsheepsclothing on Jan 2, 2020 19:15:33 GMT
Wonder if there's any chance they'll be back in? Bego is available on loan
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 2, 2020 19:42:39 GMT
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Post by DentySCFC on Jan 2, 2020 19:54:08 GMT
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Post by jeycov on Jan 2, 2020 19:57:04 GMT
Wonder if there's any chance they'll be back in? Bego is available on loan
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Post by jeycov on Jan 2, 2020 19:58:06 GMT
Wonder if there's any chance they'll be back in? Bego is available on loan For us?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 2, 2020 20:02:16 GMT
I wonder if they offered something in the region of £7 million, if we would take it?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 2, 2020 20:03:45 GMT
I wonder if they offered something in the region of £7 million, if we would take it? With additional survival payment of 10m? Absolutely I would have thought.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 2, 2020 20:05:33 GMT
I wonder if they offered something in the region of £7 million, if we would take it? With additional survival payment of 10m? Absolutely I would have thought. We're not going to get an additional payment that high though are we, with his current form and only 18 months left on his contract?
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Post by werrington on Jan 2, 2020 20:08:44 GMT
With additional survival payment of 10m? Absolutely I would have thought. We're not going to get an additional payment that high though are we, with his current form and only 18 months left on his contract? Cmon mate he may be suffering a loss of form but to say he’s worth £7m because of it is madness De Gea is having an absolute mare this season to go with abysmal form last season so would Manchester United accept a bid of £20m Of course they wouldn’t
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Post by Old School Stokie on Jan 2, 2020 20:08:52 GMT
Phone calls happening now - no doubt - he will not play v Brentford so not cup tied - whatever we can push for accept it - £10 million will be tops but probably half that and wages of the bill.
Jack has wanted away for two years let him go
And he was culpable for both Huddersfield’s goals along with his defenders - they should play as a unit - he should hav3 commanded his area for the first and opened his fucking mouth on th3 second before he dropped the ball
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 2, 2020 20:11:41 GMT
With additional survival payment of 10m? Absolutely I would have thought. We're not going to get an additional payment that high though are we, with his current form and only 18 months left on his contract? Why not? His current form will be more of a stumbling block than the time left on his contract I'd have thought. I hope he goes. Some of the stick he's getting is way overboard. Would love to see him go elsewhere and get back to his absolute best. Any bid of around 10m and I reckon we'd sell. Someone would have a bargain at that price.
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Post by Old School Stokie on Jan 2, 2020 20:12:04 GMT
And he lost his place in the England squad due to his poor distribution - well that hasn’t improved it’s got worse
Open your eyes butland lovers
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 2, 2020 20:12:31 GMT
We're not going to get an additional payment that high though are we, with his current form and only 18 months left on his contract? Cmon mate he may be suffering a loss of form but to say he’s worth £7m because of it is madness De Gea is having an absolute mare this season to go with abysmal form last season so would Manchester United accept a bid of £20m Of course they wouldn’t So what do you reckon Villa would be prepared to pay for him?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 20:13:17 GMT
Get a sell on clause in case he rediscovers his form
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 2, 2020 20:14:20 GMT
Cmon mate he may be suffering a loss of form but to say he’s worth £7m because of it is madness De Gea is having an absolute mare this season to go with abysmal form last season so would Manchester United accept a bid of £20m Of course they wouldn’t So what do you reckon Villa would be prepared to pay for him? They wouldn't go beyond 15m in the summer and we wouldn't let him go for less than 20m
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 2, 2020 20:15:00 GMT
We're not going to get an additional payment that high though are we, with his current form and only 18 months left on his contract? Why not? His current form will be more of a stumbling block than the time left on his contract I'd have thought. I hope he goes. Some of the stick he's getting is way overboard. Would love to see him go elsewhere and get back to his absolute best. Any bid of around 10m and I reckon we'd sell. Someone would have a bargain at that price. A bid of around £10 mil and we'd sell? So £7 mil with a £5 mil survival bonus or £9 mil straight off then? Yeah, I agree with you.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 20:16:38 GMT
Villa are going down so forget the survival clause
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 2, 2020 20:17:45 GMT
Yeah, I agree.
£8-10m and both teams could have a good deal.
Probably is time for a fresh start for him - and we really could do with the cash. We've got so few options to claw back some cash, and he's one of the few obvious routes
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 2, 2020 20:17:49 GMT
Why not? His current form will be more of a stumbling block than the time left on his contract I'd have thought. I hope he goes. Some of the stick he's getting is way overboard. Would love to see him go elsewhere and get back to his absolute best. Any bid of around 10m and I reckon we'd sell. Someone would have a bargain at that price. A bid of around £10 mil and we'd sell? So £7 mil with a £5 mil survival bonus or £9 mil straight off then? Yeah, I agree with you. But villa will be desperate so we should be edging them towards what they were prepared to pay in the summer be that with outright fee or add ons. I'd be inventive and do a deal whereby we get Heaton on loan on his return from injury
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Post by werrington on Jan 2, 2020 20:18:05 GMT
Cmon mate he may be suffering a loss of form but to say he’s worth £7m because of it is madness De Gea is having an absolute mare this season to go with abysmal form last season so would Manchester United accept a bid of £20m Of course they wouldn’t So what do you reckon Villa would be prepared to pay for him? I’ve no idea mate that’s up to them If Stoke sell for because of the upcoming FFP thing then it’ll be interesting to see what they’d accept as they have to claw some money back but in an ideal world he’s worth £15m + of anybody’s money given his age, English, length of contract and until recently in the international set up He’s a superb keeper who having a poor spell ...that’s all
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 2, 2020 20:20:51 GMT
So what do you reckon Villa would be prepared to pay for him? I’ve no idea mate that’s up to them If Stoke sell for because of the upcoming FFP thing then it’ll be interesting to see what they’d accept as they have to claw some money back but in an ideal world he’s worth £15m + of anybody’s money given his age, English, length of contract and until recently in the international set up He’s a superb keeper who having a poor spell ...that’s all And considering Brum have a sell on clause also
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Post by Old School Stokie on Jan 2, 2020 20:21:50 GMT
Only 29 days to go
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 2, 2020 20:26:39 GMT
Come the summer, he'll be entering his final year. He may even be eyeing a Bosman.
£10m would mean us banking about £8.7m if Brum get 20% of any profit over 3.5.
I'd probably take that
£8m would see us banking around £7m.
Not ideal, but anything higher seems unrealistic, and teams won't bite
And 100% of nowt is still nowt
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