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Post by realstokebloke on Sept 9, 2020 21:07:04 GMT
Pointing is the new kissing.
Twot.
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Post by wilcopotter on Sept 9, 2020 21:14:28 GMT
Prick. Signed on £ happy enough.
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Post by Billy the kid on Sept 9, 2020 21:14:55 GMT
We really have been mugged off with this wanker and a few others haven’t we.
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Post by bolders on Sept 9, 2020 21:39:22 GMT
It makes you wonder why he agreed to sign here in the first place if he doesn't want to play championship football. He'll be out on loans until his contract runs out here. Do you know how long a contract we gave him? Hoepfully we learnt from giving out 5 year deals to everyone.... Bad news for you it’s a 5 year contract |
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Post by Championship Potter on Sept 9, 2020 21:40:52 GMT
It makes you wonder why he agreed to sign here in the first place if he doesn't want to play championship football. He'll be out on loans until his contract runs out here. Sadly I think it’s clear that he was enticed by the idea of a promotion campaign followed by some Prem football. The most surprising thing is that he even bothered to show up for pre season last season. Like Badou, he’s clearly got no desire to be slogging it in the Championship. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 9, 2020 21:41:49 GMT
We'll meet again......
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2020 21:46:18 GMT
Only this time we know where and we know when! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2020 21:53:25 GMT
Off you fuck then Pete...
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Post by generationex on Sept 9, 2020 22:00:29 GMT
Jesus we signed some of the biggest tossers in world football.
The 2014 - 2018 collection must be worst in British football history, never mind Stoke City’s.
I do wonder if it’s the most expensive collection of narcissist bad apples in world football ever.
Clubs have wasted a lot on 2 or 3 bad buys but we probably assembled a dozen or more for maybe 150 million quid. And we still have to pay for them until their career is either finished or nearly finished.
It is astonishing.
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Post by datguy on Sept 9, 2020 22:04:13 GMT
I'd rather play for Galatasaray if I was Etebo.
But yes anyway... what a cunt etc.
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Post by Gods on Sept 9, 2020 22:41:45 GMT
I'd rather play for Galatasaray if I was Etebo. But yes anyway... what a cunt etc. Perhaps, but that rather begs the question why didn't he sign for 5 years for a team he did want to play for? |
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Post by datguy on Sept 9, 2020 22:50:36 GMT
I'd rather play for Galatasaray if I was Etebo. But yes anyway... what a cunt etc. Perhaps, but that rather begs the question why didn't he sign for 5 years for a team he did want to play for? Were Galatasaray interested in him? Maybe he thought we'd be his ticket into the Premier League? Maybe he got sick of yet another managerial change after months of ineptness? In all fairness to the lad, he's moved away from Stoke twice. The first to a team in the top 4 in La Liga. The second to Galatasaray. Personally don't view that as cuntish. It's a clear step up and doesn't seem to be motivated by money whatsoever. |
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Post by generationex on Sept 9, 2020 22:59:36 GMT
Why are we still paying most of his wages and why doesn’t he just do one if not?
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Post by s7oke on Sept 10, 2020 3:48:24 GMT
According to triple a sports management details (the same agency as butland tymon etc)
Etebo loan fee is 608 thousand pounds
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2020 5:22:08 GMT
Is anyone paying attention to the Alexander Sorloth situation? On loan at Trabzonspor with an optional 5.5M transfer fee if he plays a certain amount of games.
He's scored a ridiculous amount of goals and now Leipzig want him. Trabzonspor are allegedly triggering the clause and are going to sell him on for a profit.
I think that's the only way a Turkish club will trigger a clause, so let's hope Pistol Pete earns his stripes.
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Post by Gods on Sept 10, 2020 6:59:04 GMT
Perhaps, but that rather begs the question why didn't he sign for 5 years for a team he did want to play for? Were Galatasaray interested in him? Maybe he thought we'd be his ticket into the Premier League? Maybe he got sick of yet another managerial change after months of ineptness? In all fairness to the lad, he's moved away from Stoke twice. The first to a team in the top 4 in La Liga. The second to Galatasaray. Personally don't view that as cuntish. It's a clear step up and doesn't seem to be motivated by money whatsoever. We're guaranteeing his wages for 5 years while he goes off and plays for whoever he fancies. Its great for him, I don't doubt that, like having a wife at home making dinner and tending the house while you shag yourself senseless. |
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Post by Cast no shadow on Sept 10, 2020 7:12:51 GMT
He'll want in when we're in prem In 12 months.
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 10, 2020 7:18:41 GMT
I'd rather play for Galatasaray if I was Etebo. But yes anyway... what a cunt etc. Perhaps, but that rather begs the question why didn't he sign for 5 years for a team he did want to play for? People make mistakes. Neil Franklin signed to join Bogota, which sounded attractive till he got there, then he regretted it. Many years ago I met a young foreign lady who took a job in Henley she thought, but found out then it was Hanley. Boy, she was disappointed!!! |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 10, 2020 7:25:09 GMT
Why are we still paying most of his wages and why doesn’t he just do one if not? Because the contract he signed with us commits us to paying his wages for the life of his contract. That means if he goes out on loan we have to pay the balance of his wages above whatever the loan club pays. If we didn't want to do this then we shouldn't have signed him on that contract - or - we should have made sure that he was a player good enough to be able to command high wages should he ever go out on loan. We have no one to blame but ourselves I'm afraid. First for signing far too many players who we over valued, and then put them on contracts which were longer and higher than they were worth. Second in allowing ourselves to get relegated and reducing our income by £100 million ish a year. Who else should we blame?  |
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Post by fazza90 on Sept 10, 2020 8:45:24 GMT
Why are we still paying most of his wages and why doesn’t he just do one if not? Because the contract he signed with us commits us to paying his wages for the life of his contract. That means if he goes out on loan we have to pay the balance of his wages above whatever the loan club pays. If we didn't want to do this then we shouldn't have signed him on that contract - or - we should have made sure that he was a player good enough to be able to command high wages should he ever go out on loan. We have no one to blame but ourselves I'm afraid. First for signing far too many players who we over valued, and then put them on contracts which were longer and higher than they were worth. Second in allowing ourselves to get relegated and reducing our income by £100 million ish a year. Who else should we blame? Come on Lakeland you know you should always just blame others and insult them to make you feel superior rather than stop and think about it and admit maybe we have some of the blame ourselves... |
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Post by generationex on Sept 10, 2020 8:59:42 GMT
Why are we still paying most of his wages and why doesn’t he just do one if not? Because the contract he signed with us commits us to paying his wages for the life of his contract. That means if he goes out on loan we have to pay the balance of his wages above whatever the loan club pays. If we didn't want to do this then we shouldn't have signed him on that contract - or - we should have made sure that he was a player good enough to be able to command high wages should he ever go out on loan. We have no one to blame but ourselves I'm afraid. First for signing far too many players who we over valued, and then put them on contracts which were longer and higher than they were worth. Second in allowing ourselves to get relegated and reducing our income by £100 million ish a year. Who else should we blame? Missing the point old boy. The previous poster suggested this particular wasters moves “are not for money”. They’re not - because we’re still bloody paying! Let’s not make a virtue out of players that can’t bare to slum it in Stoke while still taking our cash as “not in it for the money”. The fact we let these chancers exploit and destroy our club is, of course, totally the fault of the people that believed they had an ounce of interest in Stoke City and signed them in the first place, for wages that no other club would ever pay. |
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Post by Gods on Sept 10, 2020 16:54:07 GMT
I would imagine that even when he goes to Galatasaray his monthly pay cheque will still come from Stoke City.
So Stoke City park £30,000 in his Bank Account each week for his trouble as always and Galatasary give Stoke City £20,000 back or whatever the numbers are.
I'm sure he will still furnish Galatasary with his Sort Code and Bank Account number in case there are any bonuses to be paid.
Then he minces back to Stoke City in the summer, well actually he doesn't bother because it is the close season, but the pay cheques just keep on coming right up to 2023.
It can't be easy to function in this way with a straight face, he must think the money comes from the tooth fairy!
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Post by spiderpuss on Sept 10, 2020 17:15:19 GMT
If it wasn't for Turkey, we would have to find something for these turkeys to do. Such as bog-cleaning.
It's disappointing that players can't just roll up their sleeves and get right stuck in with promotion push. It's the reason why nobody is stepping into buy them. If champions-league Getafe don't want to find a paltry sum, they will never leave - until the money runs out.
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Post by heworksardtho on Sept 10, 2020 17:23:55 GMT
If we get promoted will the mercenary twat then want to stay
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Post by pmjh on Sept 10, 2020 17:36:03 GMT
Why are we still paying most of his wages and why doesn’t he just do one if not? Because the contract he signed with us commits us to paying his wages for the life of his contract. That means if he goes out on loan we have to pay the balance of his wages above whatever the loan club pays. If we didn't want to do this then we shouldn't have signed him on that contract - or - we should have made sure that he was a player good enough to be able to command high wages should he ever go out on loan. We have no one to blame but ourselves I'm afraid. First for signing far too many players who we over valued, and then put them on contracts which were longer and higher than they were worth. Second in allowing ourselves to get relegated and reducing our income by £100 million ish a year. Who else should we blame? Of course the club have to shoulder some of the blame. But it's a bit much to absolve the tossers of some it. How do you know for example that a player isn't worth what we paid. Players at many clubs have mysteriously lost form in order to force through transfers before now. That doesn't actually make them any better or worse or of less value. If the likes of the bomb squad desperately want to play elsewhere then take a pay cut to do it. I'm sure Stoke would forego a transfer fee if they were willing to tear up their contracts. If it was up to me, not withstanding the effect of FFP I'd stop them playing until they left the club. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2020 17:49:03 GMT
If we get promoted will the mercenary twat then want to stay I hope not. He's not PL quality. |
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 10, 2020 17:50:07 GMT
Why are we still paying most of his wages and why doesn’t he just do one if not? Because the contract he signed with us commits us to paying his wages for the life of his contract. That means if he goes out on loan we have to pay the balance of his wages above whatever the loan club pays. If we didn't want to do this then we shouldn't have signed him on that contract - or - we should have made sure that he was a player good enough to be able to command high wages should he ever go out on loan. We have no one to blame but ourselves I'm afraid. First for signing far too many players who we over valued, and then put them on contracts which were longer and higher than they were worth. Second in allowing ourselves to get relegated and reducing our income by £100 million ish a year. Who else should we blame? Dominic Cummings? |
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Post by bolders on Sept 10, 2020 17:55:39 GMT
If we get promoted will the mercenary twat then want to stay They best not have promotion bonuses in their contracts |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 10, 2020 18:17:15 GMT
Because the contract he signed with us commits us to paying his wages for the life of his contract. That means if he goes out on loan we have to pay the balance of his wages above whatever the loan club pays. If we didn't want to do this then we shouldn't have signed him on that contract - or - we should have made sure that he was a player good enough to be able to command high wages should he ever go out on loan. We have no one to blame but ourselves I'm afraid. First for signing far too many players who we over valued, and then put them on contracts which were longer and higher than they were worth. Second in allowing ourselves to get relegated and reducing our income by £100 million ish a year. Who else should we blame? Of course the club have to shoulder some of the blame. But it's a bit much to absolve the tossers of some it. How do you know for example that a player isn't worth what we paid. Players at many clubs have mysteriously lost form in order to force through transfers before now. That doesn't actually make them any better or worse or of less value. If the likes of the bomb squad desperately want to play elsewhere then take a pay cut to do it. I'm sure Stoke would forego a transfer fee if they were willing to tear up their contracts. If it was up to me, not withstanding the effect of FFP I'd stop them playing until they left the club. I didn't agree with everything TP said - or did - but he was right in trying to seek out players with the right "DNA." Sadly, far too many of the players signed towards the end of Hughes' reign (and later) were signed without due diligence being exercised in finding if their mentality and attitude was what we needed. All clubs get it wrong sometimes but for the past 4 years, at least, we have got it wrong far too many times and until the contracts of our failed signings expire, we are paying a heavy price in monetary and FFP terms. |
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Post by lee1982 on Sept 10, 2020 18:39:05 GMT
Didnt we sign Bauer, Ndiaye and Etebo whilst we didnt actually have a manager at the club? Coincidence that all 3 have turned out to be mercenaries on ridiculous contracts! Who shoulders that blame???
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