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Post by Veritas on Jan 8, 2020 20:23:14 GMT
Absolute shocking decision to let him go. Loan with a view to a permanent. Probably about £6m and in two years time we’ll see him moving for £20m. Some shocking decisions being made at this club As stated elsewhere we have been doing better without him and the manager has not been impressed. Given that and the fact we need to reduce numbers and costs this looks perfectly sensible. |
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Post by cruelking on Jan 8, 2020 20:26:16 GMT
I cant believe we have let him go on loan, the manager hasn't even seen him play - he was our best player- most energetic and hard working, could play forwards as well as defend, enthusiastic, only 24 years old improving all the time and the perfect age and now it looks like Joe Allen will be following- these 2 will leave a gapping whole that could certainly sink us- never mind we have Jordon cousins who may be good enough if we drop down a division or 2
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jan 8, 2020 20:28:28 GMT
Oh ye CCV.....one back in Verlinden... And Tymon. |
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 8, 2020 20:28:53 GMT
I cant believe we have let him go on loan, the manager hasn't even seen him play - he was our best player- most energetic and hard working, could play forwards as well as defend, enthusiastic, only 24 years old improving all the time and the perfect age and now it looks like Joe Allen will be following- these 2 will leave a gapping whole that could certainly sink us- never mind we have Jordon cousins who may be good enough if we drop down a division or 2 Since his return from injury, his training and overall attitude has been diabolical. He wants out, and has done since the end of last season. |
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Post by scfcwebby on Jan 8, 2020 20:30:44 GMT
Such a waste
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Post by neddy on Jan 8, 2020 20:30:48 GMT
Well we will probably never know what has gone on but I think he was ok whenever he played...
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Post by franklin66 on Jan 8, 2020 20:32:09 GMT
Unfortunately this is what the fuss was about PC, everyone fucks off and you have to start from scratch. FFP will screw us because we cant buy our way out so it's down to luck.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Jan 8, 2020 20:38:17 GMT
I cant believe we have let him go on loan, the manager hasn't even seen him play - he was our best player- most energetic and hard working, could play forwards as well as defend, enthusiastic, only 24 years old improving all the time and the perfect age and now it looks like Joe Allen will be following- these 2 will leave a gapping whole that could certainly sink us- never mind we have Jordon cousins who may be good enough if we drop down a division or 2 There are a few flaws in your post - he wasn't our best player, he wasn't the most energetic or hard working, he wasn't very good going forward and couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo, he wasn't good a defending either and picked up a few yellow cards as well as a red, enthusiastic maybe but certainly not improving. Gouranga.  |
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jan 8, 2020 20:53:41 GMT
I cant believe we have let him go on loan, the manager hasn't even seen him play - he was our best player- most energetic and hard working, could play forwards as well as defend, enthusiastic, only 24 years old improving all the time and the perfect age and now it looks like Joe Allen will be following- these 2 will leave a gapping whole that could certainly sink us- never mind we have Jordon cousins who may be good enough if we drop down a division or 2 He looks goog and I was keen to have him involved but the reality is we are fourth bottom of the league, havent looked any better when he has played and he has no goals and no assists. He doesnt want to be here so lets get his costs off the wage bill |
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Post by BuzzB on Jan 8, 2020 21:20:01 GMT
I cant believe we have let him go on loan, the manager hasn't even seen him play - he was our best player- most energetic and hard working, could play forwards as well as defend, enthusiastic, only 24 years old improving all the time and the perfect age and now it looks like Joe Allen will be following- these 2 will leave a gapping whole that could certainly sink us- never mind we have Jordon cousins who may be good enough if we drop down a division or 2 There are a few flaws in your post - he wasn't our best player, he wasn't the most energetic or hard working, he wasn't very good going forward and couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo, he wasn't good a defending either and picked up a few yellow cards as well as a red, enthusiastic maybe but certainly not improving. Gouranga. Never read such shite. Fair enough, since his injury god knows what has gone on, but for 18 months prior to that he was as good as we had and better. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 8, 2020 21:21:31 GMT
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Post by stiggerstackle on Jan 8, 2020 21:22:51 GMT
I think we need to cut the club some slack, there’s an awful lot happening behind the scenes that isn’t made public. Badou and Etebo have simply downed tools as soon as a move was on the cards and have forced their way out, nothing MON can do about that.
Campbell’s also had a new contract on the table for months but just won’t sign - nothing MON can do about it.
There are others that the club want desperately to see the back of, due to the players attitudes and behaviours, but the club can’t actively slag off their assets when they are trying to offload.
Individual players are the culprits and architects of their own exits, we need to ease off MON and the club who are in a no-win situation.
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 8, 2020 22:20:10 GMT
Forever in my heart.... what bollocks. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 8, 2020 22:40:55 GMT
I think we need to cut the club some slack, there’s an awful lot happening behind the scenes that isn’t made public. Badou and Etebo have simply downed tools as soon as a move was on the cards and have forced their way out, nothing MON can do about that. Campbell’s also had a new contract on the table for months but just won’t sign - nothing MON can do about it. There are others that the club want desperately to see the back of, due to the players attitudes and behaviours, but the club can’t actively slag off their assets when they are trying to offload. Individual players are the culprits and architects of their own exits, we need to ease off MON and the club who are in a no-win situation. There's literally no evidence that's true though is there? |
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Post by stiggerstackle on Jan 8, 2020 22:51:39 GMT
I think we need to cut the club some slack, there’s an awful lot happening behind the scenes that isn’t made public. Badou and Etebo have simply downed tools as soon as a move was on the cards and have forced their way out, nothing MON can do about that. Campbell’s also had a new contract on the table for months but just won’t sign - nothing MON can do about it. There are others that the club want desperately to see the back of, due to the players attitudes and behaviours, but the club can’t actively slag off their assets when they are trying to offload. Individual players are the culprits and architects of their own exits, we need to ease off MON and the club who are in a no-win situation. There's literally no evidence that's true though is there? The club can hardly publicly air their dirty laundry in front of potential suitors whilst also trying to offload players. They are completely over a barrel with a few players. Is it really that much of a stretch? |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 8, 2020 23:02:19 GMT
There's literally no evidence that's true though is there? The club can hardly publicly air their dirty laundry in front of potential suitors whilst also trying to offload players. They are completely over a barrel with a few players. Is it really that much of a stretch? You’re talking about it as if it’s fact though? What are you basing it on? There was always a likelihood both would be off in Jan but where has the suggestion they downed tools from? If anything both were trying to put themselves in the shop window - Badou had been playing well and Etebo was supposedly furious to find out he wouldn’t be playing? |
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Post by Fred Ferret on Jan 8, 2020 23:19:46 GMT
Loved his social media posts about respect! That wife of his, also likes a little dig! End of term report: Promised a lot, but really just another Tuppeny mercenary, full of piss and wind - by the sounds of it. Imbula, Wimmer, Etebo, and Ndiaye. Have we learned our lesson yet? In future, don't go near. Farts and spacesuits, echoing in the wind, as they amble around the training pitch! Don't go near what, foreigners? Because a Nigerian and an Austrian are peas in a pod aren't they? Basically the same thing. How is he a mercenary? How are they mercenary? If you need it spelling out: Sign for PL wages, when we struggle, either want out or don't train/fight for the cause when we are fighting for existence. Don't go near what? Those type of players! Don't give a toss about nationality - it's character that matters. |
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Post by spiderpuss on Jan 9, 2020 7:16:23 GMT
Forever in my heart.... what bollocks. From that sounds like that's the last we will hear from him. I guess it will be what transfer fee Getafe can come up with. |
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Post by Gods on Jan 9, 2020 7:23:12 GMT
Forever in my heart.... what bollocks. From that sounds like that's the last we will hear from him. I guess it will be what transfer fee Getafe can come up with. I'm sure that is what he would like but I doubt it, he'll be back in 6 months I predict. |
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Post by pistol on Jan 9, 2020 7:31:08 GMT
I think we need to cut the club some slack, there’s an awful lot happening behind the scenes that isn’t made public. Badou and Etebo have simply downed tools as soon as a move was on the cards and have forced their way out, nothing MON can do about that. Campbell’s also had a new contract on the table for months but just won’t sign - nothing MON can do about it. There are others that the club want desperately to see the back of, due to the players attitudes and behaviours, but the club can’t actively slag off their assets when they are trying to offload. Individual players are the culprits and architects of their own exits, we need to ease off MON and the club who are in a no-win situation. This is a situation entirely of the clubs own making so they’ll get no slack |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 9, 2020 7:32:18 GMT
Don't go near what, foreigners? Because a Nigerian and an Austrian are peas in a pod aren't they? Basically the same thing. How is he a mercenary? How are they mercenary? If you need it spelling out: Sign for PL wages, when we struggle, either want out or don't train/fight for the cause when we are fighting for existence. Don't go near what? Those type of players! Don't give a toss about nationality - it's character that matters. In what way were they not fighting for the cause - Etebo's always given everything when he's played? He was apparently furious at not being given the chance to play? What are you talking about? He won't be getting any more money at Getafe than he will here, so how is he a mercenary? Do you think any of our players would turn down a Europa League club in a top league if they came in for them this window? Even Saint Joe? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 7:58:33 GMT
How are they mercenary? If you need it spelling out: Sign for PL wages, when we struggle, either want out or don't train/fight for the cause when we are fighting for existence. Don't go near what? Those type of players! Don't give a toss about nationality - it's character that matters. In what way were they not fighting for the cause - Etebo's always given everything when he's played? He was apparently furious at not being given the chance to play? What are you talking about? He won't be getting any more money at Getafe than he will here, so how is he a mercenary? Do you think any of our players would turn down a Europa League club in a top league if they came in for them this window? Even Saint Joe? You say he was “apparently furious”, where’s the evidence for that? When people posted that he “apparently wasn’t training well” you rightly challenged them for hard evidence...... |
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Post by chuckrocky on Jan 9, 2020 8:00:40 GMT
In what way were they not fighting for the cause - Etebo's always given everything when he's played? He was apparently furious at not being given the chance to play? What are you talking about? He won't be getting any more money at Getafe than he will here, so how is he a mercenary? Do you think any of our players would turn down a Europa League club in a top league if they came in for them this window? Even Saint Joe? You say he was “apparently furious”, where’s the evidence for that? When people posted that he “apparently wasn’t training well” you rightly challenged them for hard evidence...... To be fair anyone would be furious if you’d lost your place to Jordan Cousins. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 9, 2020 8:00:52 GMT
In what way were they not fighting for the cause - Etebo's always given everything when he's played? He was apparently furious at not being given the chance to play? What are you talking about? He won't be getting any more money at Getafe than he will here, so how is he a mercenary? Do you think any of our players would turn down a Europa League club in a top league if they came in for them this window? Even Saint Joe? You say he was “apparently furious”, where’s the evidence for that? When people posted that he “apparently wasn’t training well” you rightly challenged them for hard evidence...... His storming off home before a home game, seen by a number of supporters including some fairly well known non-bullshitter posters on this board, when he discovered he wouldn't even be on the bench, and his angry tweets about backing himself, don't suggest a player happy to sit back and coin it in do they? |
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Post by Gods on Jan 9, 2020 8:09:43 GMT
You say he was “apparently furious”, where’s the evidence for that? When people posted that he “apparently wasn’t training well” you rightly challenged them for hard evidence...... His storming off home before a home game, seen by a number of supporters including some fairly well known non-bullshitter posters on this board, when he discovered he wouldn't even be on the bench, and his angry tweets about backing himself, don't suggest a player happy to sit back and coin it in do they? I think he tried hard enough and ran around a bit and basically looked okay, I just can't recall any single thing he did of note in a season and a half. Ideally at this level you'd like some kind of cutting edge for 6 million quid and a kings ransom wage. The much derided Joe Allen has a few goals to his name and quite some assists at least. Manages to make a real nuisance of himself. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 8:13:34 GMT
You say he was “apparently furious”, where’s the evidence for that? When people posted that he “apparently wasn’t training well” you rightly challenged them for hard evidence...... His storming off home before a home game, seen by a number of supporters including some fairly well known non-bullshitter posters on this board, when he discovered he wouldn't even be on the bench, and his angry tweets about backing himself, don't suggest a player happy to sit back and coin it in do they? Leaving the ground and not staying to watch your team mates play also suggests someone that isn’t a team player. All rather flimsy “evidence” if I do say so from either side of the debate..... |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 9, 2020 8:14:30 GMT
His storming off home before a home game, seen by a number of supporters including some fairly well known non-bullshitter posters on this board, when he discovered he wouldn't even be on the bench, and his angry tweets about backing himself, don't suggest a player happy to sit back and coin it in do they? I think he tried hard enough and ran around a bit and basically looked okay, I just can't recall any single thing he did of note in a season and a half. Ideally at this level you'd like some kind of cutting edge for 6 million quid and a kings ransom wage. The much derided Joe Allen has a few goals to his name and quite some assists at least. Manages to make a real nuisance of himself. Number of Joe Allen assists this season: zero Etebo is at least as big a nuisance factor and more robust to boot. We miss that presence to drive us forward, especially if we want to be a counter attacking side. Question marks over his end product absolutely, but given the defensive issues and weakness in the middle, having that outlet would be an asset. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 8:15:31 GMT
You say he was “apparently furious”, where’s the evidence for that? When people posted that he “apparently wasn’t training well” you rightly challenged them for hard evidence...... To be fair anyone would be furious if you’d lost your place to Jordan Cousins. Yet Cousins has put in a few decent performances and helped moved us out of the relegation zone, something Etebo didn’t manage this season. Funny old world...... |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 9, 2020 8:16:24 GMT
His storming off home before a home game, seen by a number of supporters including some fairly well known non-bullshitter posters on this board, when he discovered he wouldn't even be on the bench, and his angry tweets about backing himself, don't suggest a player happy to sit back and coin it in do they? Leaving the ground and not staying to watch your team mates play also suggests someone that isn’t a team player. All rather flimsy “evidence” if I do say so from either side of the debate..... It's not professional, I completely agree, though one might argue his frustrations were understandable if not expressed appropriately. It's behaviour that doesn't suggest laziness or an unwillingness to play, is my point. What's the evidence to suggest he's a lazy arse mercenary not prepared to pull his weight? In your opinion, does that tally with the player you've seen on the pitch? |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 9, 2020 8:17:35 GMT
To be fair anyone would be furious if you’d lost your place to Jordan Cousins. Yet Cousins has put in a few decent performances and helped moved us out of the relegation zone, something Etebo didn’t manage this season. Funny old world...... I'd argue Etebo has as many good performances to his name this season as Cousins. Difficult comparison as they play different roles, but in terms of actual good performances, like. |
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