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Post by iancransonsknees on Jan 6, 2024 13:34:05 GMT
Fucking scandalous. Heads need to roll and serious compo paid to those that have had to suffer the stress, shame and indignity of being convicted of crimes they didn't committ. Indeed I'd argue that if it could be proved people in senior management knew these convictions were unsound then they should be looking at prison themselves. I mean how the fook could you sleep at night knowing innocent people are doing bird. Absolutely awful. Unfortunately we all know how the system works there's an insurmountable amount of long grass to get through and small people to be sacrificed before it gets anywhere near the people who should have dealt with this. It's gone through the hands of the Conservative, Labour and Libdem parties, involves the Post Office and Fujitsu and none of these want any immediate bad publicity well at least until the real culprits have retired and are elderly and suffering from finger pointed early onset dementia. Like Hillsborough or the infected blood scandal. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jan 6, 2024 13:40:57 GMT
Fucking scandalous. Heads need to roll and serious compo paid to those that have had to suffer the stress, shame and indignity of being convicted of crimes they didn't committ. Indeed I'd argue that if it could be proved people in senior management knew these convictions were unsound then they should be looking at prison themselves. I mean how the fook could you sleep at night knowing innocent people are doing bird. Absolutely awful. Unfortunately we all know how the system works there's an insurmountable amount of long grass to get through and small people to be sacrificed before it gets anywhere near the people who should have dealt with this. It's gone through the hands of the Conservative, Labour and Libdem parties, involves the Post Office and Fujitsu and none of these want any immediate bad publicity well at least until the real culprits have retired and are elderly and suffering from finger pointed early onset dementia. Sadly, you are of course correct 😔 |
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Post by Orbs on Jan 6, 2024 20:33:49 GMT
Just watching Mr Bates v The Post Office The Real Story - Toby Jones narrating and it’s obviously got the real people in it from the drama. Recommend this too.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 6, 2024 22:05:25 GMT
I'm puzzled why those involved are not suing Fujitsu. Surely they're as guilty as anybody. OS.
Puzzled you say? 
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jan 6, 2024 23:23:12 GMT
I'm puzzled why those involved are not suing Fujitsu. Surely they're as guilty as anybody. OS. Puzzled you say?
Patting each other on the back at every meal no doubt… |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 7, 2024 0:10:52 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 7, 2024 0:15:43 GMT
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Post by felonious on Jan 7, 2024 15:25:33 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 7, 2024 20:09:03 GMT
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Post by Veritas on Jan 7, 2024 20:51:37 GMT
Seek out and sign the online petition to strip Paula Vennell of her CBE.
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Post by lordb on Jan 7, 2024 21:20:53 GMT
Looking forward to the police, backed to the hilt by The Home Office pursuing those responsible with the full weight of the law and a truly tenacious attitude
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jan 7, 2024 23:00:30 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 7, 2024 23:11:29 GMT
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jan 7, 2024 23:28:42 GMT
Can’t help but think there might be a bit of a point scoring going on from The Met and Sunak. It absolutely should be investigated and anyone involved in the prosecution should face the consequences for what they did, but it just feels perhaps a bit convenient that they want to get involved now.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 8, 2024 8:56:21 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Jan 8, 2024 9:01:49 GMT
Can’t help but think there might be a bit of a point scoring going on from The Met and Sunak. It absolutely should be investigated and anyone involved in the prosecution should face the consequences for what they did, but it just feels perhaps a bit convenient that they want to get involved now. it takes something big like for example this tv show for every scandal or injustice in this country to be addressed. its not convenient if the tv show wasnt made it would still be page 6 news in all the papers with the odd story now and again |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 8, 2024 9:03:43 GMT
The high earners in Fujitsu make/made a lot of money from the "success" of their business......they should pay compensation when it fails, not the taxpayer |
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 8, 2024 9:12:28 GMT
Can’t help but think there might be a bit of a point scoring going on from The Met and Sunak. It absolutely should be investigated and anyone involved in the prosecution should face the consequences for what they did, but it just feels perhaps a bit convenient that they want to get involved now. it takes something big like for example this tv show for every scandal or injustice in this country to be addressed. its not convenient if the tv show wasnt made it would still be page 6 news in all the papers with the odd story now and again These ministers and this Government have been well aware of this for years and have failed to act. There should be an enquiry into why they have failed to act for so long. Sunak is now being forced to respond through sure weight of public opinion and just because the Mail and the Express have finally taken it on. Otherwise they still would not have have bothered. Sheer opportunism and let's see what they actually do in practice now, which is sadly too late for many. There were headlines about this in 2016 in some papers and MPs were raising it in Parliament then. |
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Post by elystokie on Jan 8, 2024 9:18:12 GMT
it takes something big like for example this tv show for every scandal or injustice in this country to be addressed. its not convenient if the tv show wasnt made it would still be page 6 news in all the papers with the odd story now and again These ministers and this Government have been well aware of this for years and have failed to act. There should be an enquiry into why they have failed to act for so long. Sunak is now being forced to respond through sure weight of public opinion and just because the Mail and the Express have finally taken it on. Otherwise they still would not have have bothered. Sheer opportunism and let's see what they actually do in practice now, which is sadly too late for many. "just because the Mail and the Express have finally taken it on" Exactly 👏 |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jan 8, 2024 9:28:51 GMT
Can’t help but think there might be a bit of a point scoring going on from The Met and Sunak. It absolutely should be investigated and anyone involved in the prosecution should face the consequences for what they did, but it just feels perhaps a bit convenient that they want to get involved now. it takes something big like for example this tv show for every scandal or injustice in this country to be addressed. its not convenient if the tv show wasnt made it would still be page 6 news in all the papers with the odd story now and again This thread has been running since 2019, so why should it take a TV programme to make someone act? The Met have been hit by scandal after scandal and Rishi has had a rough time of it. To act on it now it's a big story and in the public eye is most certainly convenient. Look at us, fighting for the man. We will make them pay for their injustices...although we haven't been arsed for the last decade or more. |
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Post by Northy on Jan 8, 2024 10:04:38 GMT
The high earners in Fujitsu make/made a lot of money from the "success" of their business......they should pay compensation when it fails, not the taxpayer I think you are barking up the wrong tree there, the arbitrator found the government at fault didn't they, Government asking for lots of changes to the original requirements and then not paying for them. |
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Post by Northy on Jan 8, 2024 10:07:27 GMT
Still quoting stuff with no facts from Twitter I see, it must be true it's from twitter... |
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Post by Northy on Jan 8, 2024 10:10:48 GMT
I'm puzzled why those involved are not suing Fujitsu. Surely they're as guilty as anybody. OS.
Puzzled you say?
He was there from 2014 to 2018, there's 3 or 4 before him from 2000 that need to be looked into as to what they know about it, which hopefully that is what the MET are looking at. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 8, 2024 10:22:14 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 8, 2024 10:29:38 GMT
Still quoting stuff with no facts from Twitter I see, it must be true it's from twitter... Not quoting at all, providing a link to an article. Odd that you can't see the difference. It does highlight Fujitsu as being a bit dodgy doesn't it? |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 8, 2024 10:43:46 GMT
It's taken the ITV drama to get this known. It wasn't a secret though. Private Eye painstakingly gathered evidence over a period of time and published clearly and openly.
Also it brings the Hillsborough law into sharper focus. The cover up and corruption would've been exposed a long time ago if something like that was in place.
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Post by salopstick on Jan 8, 2024 10:45:28 GMT
it takes something big like for example this tv show for every scandal or injustice in this country to be addressed. its not convenient if the tv show wasnt made it would still be page 6 news in all the papers with the odd story now and again These ministers and this Government have been well aware of this for years and have failed to act. There should be an enquiry into why they have failed to act for so long. Sunak is now being forced to respond through sure weight of public opinion and just because the Mail and the Express have finally taken it on. Otherwise they still would not have have bothered. Sheer opportunism and let's see what they actually do in practice now, which is sadly too late for many. There were headlines about this in 2016 in some papers and MPs were raising it in Parliament then. I agree without the tv show the weight of public opinion and the media storm would not have taken off. This opportunism would still be happening regardless of party in charge twitter links and some guardian articles will not bring the government to account for covid ppe and the rest of the shit going on there. MPs are aware of it but it needs somthing big to happen to garner that "weight of public opinion" same with most scandals |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 8, 2024 10:49:01 GMT
These ministers and this Government have been well aware of this for years and have failed to act. There should be an enquiry into why they have failed to act for so long. Sunak is now being forced to respond through sure weight of public opinion and just because the Mail and the Express have finally taken it on. Otherwise they still would not have have bothered. Sheer opportunism and let's see what they actually do in practice now, which is sadly too late for many. There were headlines about this in 2016 in some papers and MPs were raising it in Parliament then. I agree without the tv show the weight of public opinion and the media storm would not have taken off. This opportunism would still be happening regardless of party in charge twitter links and some guardian articles will not bring the government to account for covid ppe and the rest of the shit going on there. MPs are aware of it but it needs somthing big to happen to garner that "weight of public opinion" same with most scandals Simply highlights the fact that the establishment always have and always will close ranks and look after themselves, whichever "scandal" emerges. And soical media in particular has done much to bring the PO scandal to the fore, over a million signatures now to strip the ex CEO of her CBE. |
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Post by salopstick on Jan 8, 2024 10:57:21 GMT
I agree without the tv show the weight of public opinion and the media storm would not have taken off. This opportunism would still be happening regardless of party in charge twitter links and some guardian articles will not bring the government to account for covid ppe and the rest of the shit going on there. MPs are aware of it but it needs somthing big to happen to garner that "weight of public opinion" same with most scandals Simply highlights the fact that the establishment always have and always will close ranks and look after themselves, whichever "scandal" emerges. And soical media in particular has done much to bring the PO scandal to the fore, over a million signatures now to strip the ex CEO of her CBE. you are correct in part. this is not a labour or tory thing as they both have dirty hands on this affair without the tv program though the social media petition would not have gathered pace if the tv program had been delayed two years then the tories would accuse Starmer of opportunitism |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 8, 2024 10:59:21 GMT
The high earners in Fujitsu make/made a lot of money from the "success" of their business......they should pay compensation when it fails, not the taxpayer I think you are barking up the wrong tree there, the arbitrator found the government at fault didn't they, Government asking for lots of changes to the original requirements and then not paying for them. Ok, I think the government decision makers should also be held to account , as should the executives in the post office, but I wonder ( I've not fully looked into it) who , if and when someone in Fujitsu knew that there was something wrong with Horizon .....and did they cover it up.....they did sell something that wasn't fit for purpose.....particularly in light of the experience with the NHS |
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