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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 23, 2019 18:04:22 GMT
Edwards has proved he is capable but looks in very poor form. Collins will play Premier league for most of his career I'd wager. Some Stoke fans simply thrive on slagging our young players though. They simply hate to see them do well. It's all very odd. Pathetic aren’t they mate ...and some are trying to big them up to better than they really are! I want the best players on the pitch and not pick the team from location. If they're equally good, OK, but not when you clearly show you are unfit. If people can't see the level of Edwards' play the last games I really wonder. He has simply been a passanger carried by the team. I'll be very surprised if a lot of people disagree with me on this. If we had seen the Edwards that played the last games of last season I wouldn't mind seeing him play, but right now he simply isn't good enough. I've hardly seen a fullback at this level worse in the air than Edwards against Sheffield W.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 23, 2019 18:12:10 GMT
I reckon Edwards looked very promising in several Prem games? He then had a more than decent season in the Championship getting the Player of the Year award, but Jones then brings in Smith (£4m), immediately drops Edwards from the start and then dicks them both about with his chopping and changing bullshit? He's done the same with Collins - who has gone from 1st team captain to playing poorly for the under 23s by all accounts? Lindsay and Cousins (and I suspect Davies) are clearly sub-standard, Ward (and I suspect Duffy) are past it, Powell always was a sick note and Gregory is a good lad but poor finisher. Jones has allegedly fallen out with Woods, Batth needs Shawcross, Allen doesn't know whether to stick or twist and Butland has been that bad that Fedrici is keeping him out of the side? McClean isn't a wingback (as in he's not a fullback and a very ordinary winger), Vokes is slow even when he isn't fat and Hogan can't get a start even when he's scoring? Hopefully we can win enough points to stay up, but without Badou and Etebo we've shit it. Edwards has proved he is capable but looks in very poor form. Collins will play Premier league for most of his career I'd wager. Some Stoke fans simply thrive on slagging our young players though. They simply hate to see them do well. It's all very odd. Edwards has shown he’s more than good enough time and time again. I didn’t watch last night so can’t comment on the game but against Swansea and Fulham he played well. Yet on here after the Fulham game where no one played badly he was being chastised. It was very odd.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 18:45:29 GMT
Edwards has proved he is capable but looks in very poor form. Collins will play Premier league for most of his career I'd wager. Some Stoke fans simply thrive on slagging our young players though. They simply hate to see them do well. It's all very odd. Edwards has shown he’s more than good enough time and time again. I didn’t watch last night so can’t comment on the game but against Swansea and Fulham he played well. Yet on here after the Fulham game where no one played badly he was being chastised. It was very odd. gave the ball away a few times last night. wasn't at his best to be honest
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Post by wilcopotter on Oct 23, 2019 19:34:39 GMT
Edwards has proved he is capable but looks in very poor form. Collins will play Premier league for most of his career I'd wager. Some Stoke fans simply thrive on slagging our young players though. They simply hate to see them do well. It's all very odd. Edwards has shown he’s more than good enough time and time again. I didn’t watch last night so can’t comment on the game but against Swansea and Fulham he played well. Yet on here after the Fulham game where no one played badly he was being chastised. It was very odd. Your first sentence makes it obvious you didn’t see the game last night. He is average in a sea of mediocrity.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 23, 2019 19:37:29 GMT
Edwards has shown he’s more than good enough time and time again. I didn’t watch last night so can’t comment on the game but against Swansea and Fulham he played well. Yet on here after the Fulham game where no one played badly he was being chastised. It was very odd. Your first sentence makes it obvious you didn’t see the game last night. He is average in a sea of mediocrity. I’ve literally said I haven’t 😂😂
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 23, 2019 19:49:11 GMT
Your first sentence makes it obvious you didn’t see the game last night. He is average in a sea of mediocrity. I’ve literally said I haven’t 😂😂 He is absolutely toss. Slow, terrible defender and his crossing is hugely overrated. He is also a fat little fucker who would struggle to fit in Charlie Adam's shorts. It amazes me how you think everyone is shit yet like ince and edwards both of whom are wanker than wank.
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Post by franklin66 on Oct 23, 2019 20:00:03 GMT
I’ve literally said I haven’t 😂😂 He is absolutely toss. Slow, terrible defender and his crossing is hugely overrated. He is also a fat little fucker who would struggle to fit in Charlie Adam's shorts. It amazes me how you think everyone is shit yet like ince and edwards both of whom are wanker than wank. Because he would not know a good footballer if his life depended on it.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 23, 2019 20:35:08 GMT
I’ve literally said I haven’t 😂😂 He is absolutely toss. Slow, terrible defender and his crossing is hugely overrated. He is also a fat little fucker who would struggle to fit in Charlie Adam's shorts. It amazes me how you think everyone is shit yet like ince and edwards both of whom are wanker than wank. That’s just bullshit
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 23, 2019 20:35:42 GMT
He is absolutely toss. Slow, terrible defender and his crossing is hugely overrated. He is also a fat little fucker who would struggle to fit in Charlie Adam's shorts. It amazes me how you think everyone is shit yet like ince and edwards both of whom are wanker than wank. Because he would not know a good footballer if his life depended on it. I bet you rate Lee Gregory 😂😂
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Post by Championship Potter on Oct 24, 2019 6:50:21 GMT
Problem is he certainly isn't any better mate, our biggest purchase in the summer is a player we didn't need and has been bombed out in favour of a youngster, totally bizarre signing along with Davies, Cousins, Powell, Ward, Vokes and Duffy. I reckon Edwards looked very promising in several Prem games? He then had a more than decent season in the Championship getting the Player of the Year award, but Jones then brings in Smith (£4m), immediately drops Edwards from the start and then dicks them both about with his chopping and changing bullshit? He's done the same with Collins - who has gone from 1st team captain to playing poorly for the under 23s by all accounts? Lindsay and Cousins (and I suspect Davies) are clearly sub-standard, Ward (and I suspect Duffy) are past it, Powell always was a sick note and Gregory is a good lad but poor finisher. Jones has allegedly fallen out with Woods, Batth needs Shawcross, Allen doesn't know whether to stick or twist and Butland has been that bad that Fedrici is keeping him out of the side? McClean isn't a wingback (as in he's not a fullback and a very ordinary winger), Vokes is slow even when he isn't fat and Hogan can't get a start even when he's scoring? Hopefully we can win enough points to stay up, but without Badou and Etebo we've shit it. In that first season Edwards’ performances included playing in the 7-0 drubbing by Man City and our loss to Coventry in the FA Cup. He then barely played again as Lambert went with an about to retire Glen Johnson and Bauer (who most people on here consider crap) ahead of him. I don’t think he was that great either last season to be honest - we were pretty awful whenever he played. Really hope he improves but I just don’t understand how highly rated he is by some fans.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2019 12:47:43 GMT
"Tommy Smith is finding a little bit of rhythm, so we could have included him, but he’s missed game time." WTF does that mean? I think Jones brains are scrambled. link - I've got rhythm
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 29, 2019 13:19:43 GMT
"Tommy Smith is finding a little bit of rhythm, so we could have included him, but he’s missed game time." WTF does that mean? I think Jones brains are scrambled. link - I've got rhythm He picked ward for the very same reason at sheff wed. Worked out well didn't it?
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Post by wearepremierleague on Oct 29, 2019 13:35:25 GMT
He’s missed game time because you dropped him. You dropped him because he’s not very good You signed him because ?
All comes back to Jones
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Post by Cast no shadow on Oct 29, 2019 14:57:12 GMT
"Tommy Smith is finding a little bit of rhythm, so we could have included him, but he’s missed game time." WTF does that mean? I think Jones brains are scrambled. link - I've got rhythm He said t'other week ward was gaining momentum. Fuck Him off
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Post by Pirate on Oct 29, 2019 15:08:23 GMT
"Tommy Smith is finding a little bit of rhythm, so we could have included him, but he’s missed game time." WTF does that mean? I think Jones brains are scrambled. link - I've got rhythm He said t'other week ward was gaining momentum. Fuck Him off He still is on the Hillsbrough turf, he should reach the byline any day now
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Post by boweryboy on Oct 29, 2019 15:32:36 GMT
7-2 drubbing at Man City...we have been known to score the odd goal !!
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 29, 2019 16:25:49 GMT
Edwards has proved he is capable but looks in very poor form. Collins will play Premier league for most of his career I'd wager. Some Stoke fans simply thrive on slagging our young players though. They simply hate to see them do well. It's all very odd. Pathetic aren’t they mate Probably the same fans who wanted Jones to stay a couple of weeks ago.
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Post by dreamtheater on Oct 29, 2019 17:29:23 GMT
Tommy Smith - As much as this guys signing was firstly a) - inexplicable at the outset - and then, b) his continuing non selection to bafflement of many (noting Tom Edwards growing account of monumental cock ups ) What has happened to the 'Welsh international goalie' we signed last summer too ? 'tubs' Federici getting the games instead of 'butterfingers Butland' and, the mystery welshman? What makes players turn to shit or become completely disenfranchised immediately, they turn up at Stoke City these-days ? you could not write this shit show yet there it is, happening right now
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Post by christhepotter on Oct 29, 2019 17:52:40 GMT
He is absolutely toss. Slow, terrible defender and his crossing is hugely overrated. He is also a fat little fucker who would struggle to fit in Charlie Adam's shorts. It amazes me how you think everyone is shit yet like ince and edwards both of whom are wanker than wank. That’s just bullshit He’s spot on actually
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 29, 2019 18:08:10 GMT
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Oct 29, 2019 18:16:07 GMT
I’ve literally said I haven’t 😂😂 He is absolutely toss. Slow, terrible defender and his crossing is hugely overrated. He is also a fat little fucker who would struggle to fit in Charlie Adam's shorts. It amazes me how you think everyone is shit yet like ince and edwards both of whom are wanker than wank. Fuck, we've got some serious issues with crossing on here...... Edwards is overrated, Peters was totally shit, And yet both are fullbacks, who's first job is not crossing!!! As for "fat"?? I'm not fat by any stretch, but I wish I was as fat as Edwards!!!
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Post by tosh on Oct 29, 2019 18:21:57 GMT
I reckon Edwards looked very promising in several Prem games? He then had a more than decent season in the Championship getting the Player of the Year award, but Jones then brings in Smith (£4m), immediately drops Edwards from the start and then dicks them both about with his chopping and changing bullshit? He's done the same with Collins - who has gone from 1st team captain to playing poorly for the under 23s by all accounts? Lindsay and Cousins (and I suspect Davies) are clearly sub-standard, Ward (and I suspect Duffy) are past it, Powell always was a sick note and Gregory is a good lad but poor finisher. Jones has allegedly fallen out with Woods, Batth needs Shawcross, Allen doesn't know whether to stick or twist and Butland has been that bad that Fedrici is keeping him out of the side? McClean isn't a wingback (as in he's not a fullback and a very ordinary winger), Vokes is slow even when he isn't fat and Hogan can't get a start even when he's scoring? Hopefully we can win enough points to stay up, but without Badou and Etebo we've shit it. In that first season Edwards’ performances included playing in the 7-0 drubbing by Man City and our loss to Coventry in the FA Cup. He then barely played again as Lambert went with an about to retire Glen Johnson and Bauer (who most people on here consider crap) ahead of him. I don’t think he was that great either last season to be honest - we were pretty awful whenever he played. Really hope he improves but I just don’t understand how highly rated he is by some fans. You are wrong on this one. The Man City result was 7-2. Edwards went off injured in about the 50th minute, with the score at 3-2. He played well in a ridiculously difficult first start. He also put in an excellent cross for one goal. (Incidentally frozen out Diouf made a big contribution to the (own) goal away to the best team in the country as well as scoring the other one.)
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Post by Championship Potter on Oct 29, 2019 21:27:47 GMT
In that first season Edwards’ performances included playing in the 7-0 drubbing by Man City and our loss to Coventry in the FA Cup. He then barely played again as Lambert went with an about to retire Glen Johnson and Bauer (who most people on here consider crap) ahead of him. I don’t think he was that great either last season to be honest - we were pretty awful whenever he played. Really hope he improves but I just don’t understand how highly rated he is by some fans. You are wrong on this one. The Man City result was 7-2. Edwards went off injured in about the 50th minute, with the score at 3-2. He played well in a ridiculously difficult first start. He also put in an excellent cross for one goal. (Incidentally frozen out Diouf made a big contribution to the (own) goal away to the best team in the country as well as scoring the other one.) Yeah fair point on that one. Could have sworn he'd played longer and it was a decent assist.
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Post by swampySCFC on Oct 29, 2019 23:39:29 GMT
12 players in all suffering from being in a big club with shit management. Please resign Jones now
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Post by drippinggoatsnob on Oct 30, 2019 7:30:48 GMT
Because he would not know a good footballer if his life depended on it. I bet you rate Lee Gregory 😂😂 Only in the same way I rate sidibie. If you can't see what he does or brings to the team then there is no hope for you in terms of football.....just a predetermined agenda being hammered into every hole. Pathetic really.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 30, 2019 9:04:11 GMT
I bet you rate Lee Gregory 😂😂 Only in the same way I rate sidibie. If you can't see what he does or brings to the team then there is no hope for you in terms of football.....just a predetermined agenda being hammered into every hole. Pathetic really. The agenda of staying in the Championship? That won't happen with the likes of Lee Gregory leading the line. But he runs a lot so that's fine. He's a poor striker that doesn't help us in our attacking play and has made us worse going forward than we were last season. Marvellous player.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 30, 2019 10:04:33 GMT
Only in the same way I rate sidibie. If you can't see what he does or brings to the team then there is no hope for you in terms of football.....just a predetermined agenda being hammered into every hole. Pathetic really. The agenda of staying in the Championship? That won't happen with the likes of Lee Gregory leading the line. But he runs a lot so that's fine. He's a poor striker that doesn't help us in our attacking play and has made us worse going forward than we were last season. Marvellous player. Millwall stayed up with Lee Gregory leading the line. It is possible.
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Post by bertiestan on Oct 30, 2019 13:28:32 GMT
The agenda of staying in the Championship? That won't happen with the likes of Lee Gregory leading the line. But he runs a lot so that's fine. He's a poor striker that doesn't help us in our attacking play and has made us worse going forward than we were last season. Marvellous player. Millwall stayed up with Lee Gregory leading the line. It is possible. I think gregory got around 12 last season for struggling milwall...maybe we should look at ourselves if he doesnt hit the onoin bag more regularly with us.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 30, 2019 13:31:06 GMT
The agenda of staying in the Championship? That won't happen with the likes of Lee Gregory leading the line. But he runs a lot so that's fine. He's a poor striker that doesn't help us in our attacking play and has made us worse going forward than we were last season. Marvellous player. Millwall stayed up with Lee Gregory leading the line. It is possible. By the skin of their teeth. He's a poor Championship player, a decent League One player. And that's what we're getting.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 30, 2019 13:31:49 GMT
Millwall stayed up with Lee Gregory leading the line. It is possible. I think gregory got around 12 last season for struggling milwall...maybe we should look at ourselves if he doesnt hit the onoin bag more regularly with us. It's not the rest of the teams fault he's missed sitters. He's awful.
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