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Post by mickstupp on Oct 22, 2019 13:29:51 GMT
We didn’t really need him and it’s bewildering why we signed him and ignored the more pressing issue we have at left full back.
That said, he’s not been that bad has he? Is he really any worse than Edwards?
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Post by kustokie on Oct 22, 2019 13:56:25 GMT
Can we not just enjoy this mini revival we're on? That's not to say we should bury our heads in the sand. There are plenty of question marks over recruitment. And still a big question mark over the managers head. But let's just temporarily put that to one side and focus on the recent turnaround in form. We've got 2 more massive games coming up. Let's ride the feel good factor and focus on getting points on the board. I agree. However, you have probably not been a Stokie long enough to know that these mini revivals tend not to last and normal service with accompanying moaning will return.
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 22, 2019 14:02:48 GMT
We didn’t really need him and it’s bewildering why we signed him and ignored the more pressing issue we have at left full back. That said, he’s not been that bad has he? Is he really any worse than Edwards? Problem is he certainly isn't any better mate, our biggest purchase in the summer is a player we didn't need and has been bombed out in favour of a youngster, totally bizarre signing along with Davies, Cousins, Powell, Ward, Vokes and Duffy.
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Post by heworksardtho on Oct 22, 2019 17:32:35 GMT
All my family loves my ex wife 😂😂😂 Can she play right back? She can play ................in various positions , so why not 😎
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 22, 2019 19:42:13 GMT
I’d be bringing Smith in next game after seeing that horror show from Edwards.
The lad simply has not done a single thing right in the entire half.
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Post by baltipiesmuggler on Oct 22, 2019 19:44:37 GMT
It's actually mad how many players we have who either aren't required or simply have been cast aside as (rightly) identified as being shit.
Most worrying is a good number are our latest recruits.
I'm still not remotely convinced these were all Jones signings, but then he waxed lyrical about Cousins, and hes looks bloody awful.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 22, 2019 19:50:32 GMT
If hes worse than edwards he must be toss
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 22, 2019 19:56:41 GMT
It's actually mad how many players we have who either aren't required or simply have been cast aside as (rightly) identified as being shit. Most worrying is a good number are our latest recruits. I'm still not remotely convinced these were all Jones signings, but then he waxed lyrical about Cousins, and hes looks bloody awful. Add Lindsay to that list. Who ever scouted him should be banned from football.
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Post by Championship Potter on Oct 22, 2019 19:59:46 GMT
Edwards makes Lewis Buxton look like Cafu.
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Post by staffordstokiemad1 on Oct 22, 2019 20:03:02 GMT
Edwards has been awful, every time I have seen him he is dire, league one at the very best. Adds nothing going forward and a liability defending based on tonight’s show.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Oct 22, 2019 20:43:08 GMT
Well, I’m glad he’s at the club right now.
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Post by robstokie on Oct 22, 2019 21:19:43 GMT
Is he injured? Is he the most pointless signing since Andy Davies? Little Ant? Demar Phillips? Jordan Cousins?
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Post by staffordstokiemad1 on Oct 22, 2019 21:50:14 GMT
Is he injured? Is he the most pointless signing since Andy Davies? Little Ant? Demar Phillips? Jordan Cousins? Tom Soares ?
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Post by heworksardtho on Oct 22, 2019 21:55:07 GMT
Little Ant? Demar Phillips? Jordan Cousins? Tom Soares ? Steven Tweed Keith Scott
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Post by slicko on Oct 22, 2019 21:55:22 GMT
Woods seems to have disappeared also Get yourself some Viagra.
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 22, 2019 22:58:00 GMT
Is he injured? Is he the most pointless signing since Andy Davies? Little Ant? Demar Phillips? Jordan Cousins? Maurice Edu?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 23, 2019 6:11:12 GMT
Starts Saturday now , perhaps a run is what he needs he’s a better player than he’s showed us so far
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 8:52:30 GMT
We haven't had a proper decent full back since Wilko
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Post by jimmygscfc on Oct 23, 2019 8:58:09 GMT
If Smith can't rise to the challenge of bettering that performance from Edwards, then he really has been an almighty mistake of a signing. Ward, in comparison, was serenity personified!
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Post by harrysburrow on Oct 23, 2019 9:19:24 GMT
We didn’t really need him and it’s bewildering why we signed him and ignored the more pressing issue we have at left full back. That said, he’s not been that bad has he? Is he really any worse than Edwards? Problem is he certainly isn't any better mate, our biggest purchase in the summer is a player we didn't need and has been bombed out in favour of a youngster, totally bizarre signing along with Davies, Cousins, Powell, Ward, Vokes and Duffy. I reckon Edwards looked very promising in several Prem games? He then had a more than decent season in the Championship getting the Player of the Year award, but Jones then brings in Smith (£4m), immediately drops Edwards from the start and then dicks them both about with his chopping and changing bullshit? He's done the same with Collins - who has gone from 1st team captain to playing poorly for the under 23s by all accounts? Lindsay and Cousins (and I suspect Davies) are clearly sub-standard, Ward (and I suspect Duffy) are past it, Powell always was a sick note and Gregory is a good lad but poor finisher. Jones has allegedly fallen out with Woods, Batth needs Shawcross, Allen doesn't know whether to stick or twist and Butland has been that bad that Fedrici is keeping him out of the side? McClean isn't a wingback (as in he's not a fullback and a very ordinary winger), Vokes is slow even when he isn't fat and Hogan can't get a start even when he's scoring? Hopefully we can win enough points to stay up, but without Badou and Etebo we've shit it.
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Post by chigstoke on Oct 23, 2019 9:21:37 GMT
We haven't had a proper decent full back since Wilko I'd have said Bardsley personally. Better than shoehorning Diouf into the role, but had to have been played in a back 4.
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Post by stokie223 on Oct 23, 2019 9:31:51 GMT
We haven't had a proper decent full back since Wilko I'd have said Bardsley personally. Better than shoehorning Diouf into the role, but had to have been played in a back 4. For 12 months Glen Johnson was a touch of class. You could certainly see his pedigree. Went drastically downhill from there but you can't argue that he was superb. Wilko was never a good footballer. Local lad, gave 110%, would bleed for you, hard as nails, but he was never the best footballer.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 9:36:35 GMT
I'd have said Bardsley personally. Better than shoehorning Diouf into the role, but had to have been played in a back 4. For 12 months Glen Johnson was a touch of class. You could certainly see his pedigree. Went drastically downhill from there but you can't argue that he was superb. Wilko was never a good footballer. Local lad, gave 110%, would bleed for you, hard as nails, but he was never the best footballer. Best defender though.Johnson was never the the greatest defender even at his peak
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Post by stokie223 on Oct 23, 2019 9:57:24 GMT
For 12 months Glen Johnson was a touch of class. You could certainly see his pedigree. Went drastically downhill from there but you can't argue that he was superb. Wilko was never a good footballer. Local lad, gave 110%, would bleed for you, hard as nails, but he was never the best footballer. Best defender though.Johnson was never the the greatest defender even at his peak I think he got stuck in, loved a slide tackle, but for me was never the best defender. Johnson wasn't the best of defenders at the level he played at, admittedly, but when he came to us for that first 12 months I certainly thought he was a cut above anything else I'd seen in Stoke shirt at full back.
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Post by pushon on Oct 23, 2019 11:51:44 GMT
We haven't had a proper decent full back since Wilko On reflection maybe Edwards isn't as poor as I thought, but he'sinking dangerously close to Wilko territory.
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Post by pushon on Oct 23, 2019 11:54:42 GMT
Problem is he certainly isn't any better mate, our biggest purchase in the summer is a player we didn't need and has been bombed out in favour of a youngster, totally bizarre signing along with Davies, Cousins, Powell, Ward, Vokes and Duffy. I reckon Edwards looked very promising in several Prem games? He then had a more than decent season in the Championship getting the Player of the Year award, but Jones then brings in Smith (£4m), immediately drops Edwards from the start and then dicks them both about with his chopping and changing bullshit? He's done the same with Collins - who has gone from 1st team captain to playing poorly for the under 23s by all accounts? Lindsay and Cousins (and I suspect Davies) are clearly sub-standard, Ward (and I suspect Duffy) are past it, Powell always was a sick note and Gregory is a good lad but poor finisher. Jones has allegedly fallen out with Woods, Batth needs Shawcross, Allen doesn't know whether to stick or twist and Butland has been that bad that Fedrici is keeping him out of the side? McClean isn't a wingback (as in he's not a fullback and a very ordinary winger), Vokes is slow even when he isn't fat and Hogan can't get a start even when he's scoring? Hopefully we can win enough points to stay up, but without Badou and Etebo we've shit it. Another concise summary Harry.
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Post by teagles05 on Oct 23, 2019 12:06:20 GMT
Little Ant? Demar Phillips? Jordan Cousins? Maurice Edu? Jamie Ness?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 23, 2019 12:28:02 GMT
Problem is he certainly isn't any better mate, our biggest purchase in the summer is a player we didn't need and has been bombed out in favour of a youngster, totally bizarre signing along with Davies, Cousins, Powell, Ward, Vokes and Duffy. I reckon Edwards looked very promising in several Prem games? He then had a more than decent season in the Championship getting the Player of the Year award, but Jones then brings in Smith (£4m), immediately drops Edwards from the start and then dicks them both about with his chopping and changing bullshit? He's done the same with Collins - who has gone from 1st team captain to playing poorly for the under 23s by all accounts? Lindsay and Cousins (and I suspect Davies) are clearly sub-standard, Ward (and I suspect Duffy) are past it, Powell always was a sick note and Gregory is a good lad but poor finisher. Jones has allegedly fallen out with Woods, Batth needs Shawcross, Allen doesn't know whether to stick or twist and Butland has been that bad that Fedrici is keeping him out of the side? McClean isn't a wingback (as in he's not a fullback and a very ordinary winger), Vokes is slow even when he isn't fat and Hogan can't get a start even when he's scoring? Hopefully we can win enough points to stay up, but without Badou and Etebo we've shit it. Edwards has proved he is capable but looks in very poor form. Collins will play Premier league for most of his career I'd wager. Some Stoke fans simply thrive on slagging our young players though. They simply hate to see them do well. It's all very odd.
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 23, 2019 14:43:21 GMT
I actually prefer Smith to Edwards.
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Post by werrington on Oct 23, 2019 17:31:20 GMT
I reckon Edwards looked very promising in several Prem games? He then had a more than decent season in the Championship getting the Player of the Year award, but Jones then brings in Smith (£4m), immediately drops Edwards from the start and then dicks them both about with his chopping and changing bullshit? He's done the same with Collins - who has gone from 1st team captain to playing poorly for the under 23s by all accounts? Lindsay and Cousins (and I suspect Davies) are clearly sub-standard, Ward (and I suspect Duffy) are past it, Powell always was a sick note and Gregory is a good lad but poor finisher. Jones has allegedly fallen out with Woods, Batth needs Shawcross, Allen doesn't know whether to stick or twist and Butland has been that bad that Fedrici is keeping him out of the side? McClean isn't a wingback (as in he's not a fullback and a very ordinary winger), Vokes is slow even when he isn't fat and Hogan can't get a start even when he's scoring? Hopefully we can win enough points to stay up, but without Badou and Etebo we've shit it. Edwards has proved he is capable but looks in very poor form. Collins will play Premier league for most of his career I'd wager. Some Stoke fans simply thrive on slagging our young players though. They simply hate to see them do well. It's all very odd. Pathetic aren’t they mate
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