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Post by heyzeus on Mar 6, 2020 9:59:00 GMT
I wasn't insulting crappy. I was saying that it's ludicrous to suggest that someone as educated as lilfraise has an invalid opinion because he is apparently not in the real world because he is a teacher. It's playing the man and not the ball. At least in my case the point was that carps has a less relevant opinion on this complicated matter because he is demonstrably less intelligent than fraise jr. That's not an insult. That's a fact. So, likewise, keep up. Why confuse education and intelligence? You've only got to look at a braying House of Commons to see intelligence at work. I haven't confused them. Carps has neither, fraise has both.
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Post by heyzeus on Mar 6, 2020 9:59:41 GMT
I wasn't insulting crappy. I was saying that it's ludicrous to suggest that someone as educated as lilfraise has an invalid opinion because he is apparently not in the real world because he is a teacher. It's playing the man and not the ball. At least in my case the point was that carps has a less relevant opinion on this complicated matter because he is demonstrably less intelligent than fraise jr. That's not an insult. That's a fact. So, likewise, keep up. You’ve definitely been touched in a church. Mindless and insensitive. Reported.
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Post by zerps on Mar 6, 2020 10:10:10 GMT
You’ve definitely been touched in a church. Mindless and insensitive. Reported. Not an insult if true apparently 😄
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Post by Clayton Wood on Mar 6, 2020 10:11:33 GMT
Why confuse education and intelligence? You've only got to look at a braying House of Commons to see intelligence at work. I haven't confused them. Carps has neither, fraise has both. Which do you have?
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Post by heyzeus on Mar 6, 2020 10:13:08 GMT
I haven't confused them. Carps has neither, fraise has both. Which do you have? Neither
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Post by Clayton Wood on Mar 6, 2020 10:16:16 GMT
Neither It's a pretty select club we're in
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 6, 2020 12:08:16 GMT
I haven't confused them. Carps has neither, fraise has both. Which do you have? Ah the intellectual genius Lilfraise who believes people pay kidnappers to kidnap them to smuggle them into the UK illegally in freezer containers, if that's intelligence I am glad I am thick, as for the other loon just ignore him don't feed the troll
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Post by franklin66 on Mar 6, 2020 12:31:26 GMT
Wow tech has the same pollution effect as aviation. Ban the web
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Post by heyzeus on Mar 6, 2020 12:43:41 GMT
Ah the intellectual genius Lilfraise who believes people pay kidnappers to kidnap them to smuggle them into the UK illegally in freezer containers, if that's intelligence I am glad I am thick, as for the other loon just ignore him don't feed the troll Never heard of trafficking?
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 6, 2020 13:13:50 GMT
A daft ideology meets science..... great thread.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 11:07:20 GMT
"Decolonise the system" ?? Just anti-capitalists pure and simple. Anti-colonialism surely?
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Post by Northy on Mar 7, 2020 11:14:30 GMT
Wow tech has the same pollution effect as aviation. Ban the web I said on here a few months ago that if all Cristiano Ronaldo's Instagram followers view 1 photo of his, the power needed to recharge all the devices is enough to power 18 homes, now multiply that by how many people there are on social network and how many videos of fookin cats there are. Data centres are expanding and being built at a phenomenal rate, there is becoming a shortage of maintenance shift engineers in the south (Slough), so much that the latest ones to take on are offering basic of £60k just to poach staff from other centres. I sit here typing in a data centre as working at the weekend and thinking if I should dust off the old toolbox and not worry about budgets, staffing, life cycle planning etc.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 11:23:00 GMT
Wow tech has the same pollution effect as aviation. Ban the web I said on here a few months ago that if all Cristiano Ronaldo's Instagram followers view 1 photo of his, the power needed to recharge all the devices is enough to power 18 homes, now multiply that by how many people there are on social network and how many videos of fookin cats there are. Data centres are expanding and being built at a phenomenal rate, there is becoming a shortage of maintenance shift engineers in the south (Slough), so much that the latest ones to take on are offering basic of £60k just to poach staff from other centres. I sit here typing in a data centre as working at the weekend and thinking if I should dust off the old toolbox and not worry about budgets, staffing, life cycle planning etc. Doesn't surprise me to be honest! It's an interesting comparison with aviation though, because tech is at least fuelled from the national grid, which has the ability to be decarbonised. Planes obviously use jet fuel, and we haven't got an alternative to that yet that's reliable. I think that's why people are calling for less air travel and not necessarily less use of tech.
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Post by franklin66 on Mar 7, 2020 11:24:00 GMT
Wow tech has the same pollution effect as aviation. Ban the web I said on here a few months ago that if all Cristiano Ronaldo's Instagram followers view 1 photo of his, the power needed to recharge all the devices is enough to power 18 homes, now multiply that by how many people there are on social network and how many videos of fookin cats there are. Data centres are expanding and being built at a phenomenal rate, there is becoming a shortage of maintenance shift engineers in the south (Slough), so much that the latest ones to take on are offering basic of £60k just to poach staff from other centres. I sit here typing in a data centre as working at the weekend and thinking if I should dust off the old toolbox and not worry about budgets, staffing, life cycle planning etc. I never made the connection before !! Its quite shocking to think me posting on the Oatcake contributes to pollution. Smudge and DaveF really need to look at their responsibility to the planet and consider the future of this place 😁
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Post by franklin66 on Mar 7, 2020 11:28:13 GMT
I said on here a few months ago that if all Cristiano Ronaldo's Instagram followers view 1 photo of his, the power needed to recharge all the devices is enough to power 18 homes, now multiply that by how many people there are on social network and how many videos of fookin cats there are. Data centres are expanding and being built at a phenomenal rate, there is becoming a shortage of maintenance shift engineers in the south (Slough), so much that the latest ones to take on are offering basic of £60k just to poach staff from other centres. I sit here typing in a data centre as working at the weekend and thinking if I should dust off the old toolbox and not worry about budgets, staffing, life cycle planning etc. Doesn't surprise me to be honest! It's an interesting comparison with aviation though, because tech is at least fuelled from the national grid, which has the ability to be decarbonised. Planes obviously use jet fuel, and we haven't got an alternative to that yet that's reliable. I think that's why people are calling for less air travel and not necessarily less use of tech. I think it was done to make the comparison as of now. I know there are R&D looking at fuel in aviation but I think it's way off yet. Saying that planes have evolved and are much cleaner than they were 20yrs ago or so.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 11:37:17 GMT
Doesn't surprise me to be honest! It's an interesting comparison with aviation though, because tech is at least fuelled from the national grid, which has the ability to be decarbonised. Planes obviously use jet fuel, and we haven't got an alternative to that yet that's reliable. I think that's why people are calling for less air travel and not necessarily less use of tech. I think it was done to make the comparison as of now. I know there are R&D looking at fuel in aviation but I think it's way off yet. Saying that planes have evolved and are much cleaner than they were 20yrs ago or so. Oh definitely yeah, the same with petrol and diesel in cars, much cleaner now. Still release far too much mind.
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Post by Northy on Mar 7, 2020 11:45:08 GMT
I said on here a few months ago that if all Cristiano Ronaldo's Instagram followers view 1 photo of his, the power needed to recharge all the devices is enough to power 18 homes, now multiply that by how many people there are on social network and how many videos of fookin cats there are. Data centres are expanding and being built at a phenomenal rate, there is becoming a shortage of maintenance shift engineers in the south (Slough), so much that the latest ones to take on are offering basic of £60k just to poach staff from other centres. I sit here typing in a data centre as working at the weekend and thinking if I should dust off the old toolbox and not worry about budgets, staffing, life cycle planning etc. Doesn't surprise me to be honest! It's an interesting comparison with aviation though, because tech is at least fuelled from the national grid, which has the ability to be decarbonised. Planes obviously use jet fuel, and we haven't got an alternative to that yet that's reliable. I think that's why people are calling for less air travel and not necessarily less use of tech. May have the ability, but we don't have the capacity yet, and the rate they are going up seems to be very quickly atm. Plus some are using adiabatic cooling to reduce energy, but that means a lot of water, which the south east doesn't have, as even after another very wet winter the water tables are still to low and many of the rare chalk streams aren't flowing, 90% of the worlds chalk streams are in the South East of England, they resemble paths, with all that wildlife, fish, insects, birds lost. www.theriverstrust.org/media/2019/06/Chalk-streams-dossier_June-2019_FINAL_FINAL-1.pdfblogs.wwf.org.uk/blog/habitats/rivers-freshwater/englands-chalk-streams-dying/Tell that to the kids, when daddy is hosing down the car and garage door, he's destroying a rare habitat
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 11:54:13 GMT
Doesn't surprise me to be honest! It's an interesting comparison with aviation though, because tech is at least fuelled from the national grid, which has the ability to be decarbonised. Planes obviously use jet fuel, and we haven't got an alternative to that yet that's reliable. I think that's why people are calling for less air travel and not necessarily less use of tech. May have the ability, but we don't have the capacity yet, and the rate they are going up seems to be very quickly atm. Plus some are using adiabatic cooling to reduce energy, but that means a lot of water, which the south east doesn't have, as even after another very wet winter the water tables are still to low and many of the rare chalk streams aren't flowing, 90% of the worlds chalk streams are in the South East of England, they resemble paths, with all that wildlife, fish, insects, birds lost. www.theriverstrust.org/media/2019/06/Chalk-streams-dossier_June-2019_FINAL_FINAL-1.pdfblogs.wwf.org.uk/blog/habitats/rivers-freshwater/englands-chalk-streams-dying/Very true, it's all difficult, but we'll have to change soon, even ignoring climate change, as our current fossil fuel resources are running out anyway. I would hope for an increase in nuclear power and tidal power realistically, aswell as a huge funding push to insulate homes and install solar panels. Retrofitting gas boilers to electric heating would be a great help too. Huge funding push into public transport would be great too, try and get people to actually want to use public transport. It's all doable if we can be bothered to put the funding in.
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Post by franklin66 on Mar 7, 2020 11:58:08 GMT
I think it was done to make the comparison as of now. I know there are R&D looking at fuel in aviation but I think it's way off yet. Saying that planes have evolved and are much cleaner than they were 20yrs ago or so. Oh definitely yeah, the same with petrol and diesel in cars, much cleaner now. Still release far too much mind. True I've never had a diesel car being honest I always thought they pumped thick black smog out and never wanted to do that. I think the leaps forward will come thick and fast now and I genuinely believe air travel will change dramatically over the next few decades.
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Post by Northy on Mar 7, 2020 12:23:57 GMT
May have the ability, but we don't have the capacity yet, and the rate they are going up seems to be very quickly atm. Plus some are using adiabatic cooling to reduce energy, but that means a lot of water, which the south east doesn't have, as even after another very wet winter the water tables are still to low and many of the rare chalk streams aren't flowing, 90% of the worlds chalk streams are in the South East of England, they resemble paths, with all that wildlife, fish, insects, birds lost. www.theriverstrust.org/media/2019/06/Chalk-streams-dossier_June-2019_FINAL_FINAL-1.pdfblogs.wwf.org.uk/blog/habitats/rivers-freshwater/englands-chalk-streams-dying/Very true, it's all difficult, but we'll have to change soon, even ignoring climate change, as our current fossil fuel resources are running out anyway. I would hope for an increase in nuclear power and tidal power realistically, aswell as a huge funding push to insulate homes and install solar panels. Retrofitting gas boilers to electric heating would be a great help too. Huge funding push into public transport would be great too, try and get people to actually want to use public transport. It's all doable if we can be bothered to put the funding in. The severn barrier and Swansea bay lagoon would be great and show the world what we can achieve, but there doesn't seem to be the push for it for environmental reasons, which seems to be an own goal atm, the environmental reason can be got around with technical solutions, just scrap HS2 and pump the money into those, no nuclear waste then.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 7, 2020 13:21:51 GMT
"Decolonise the system" ?? Just anti-capitalists pure and simple. Anti-colonialism surely? No, de-colonise the 'curriculum'. From schools to universities. Only Left-Think will be allowed. What do reckon to the thread I posted where science debunks wind farms?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 13:28:03 GMT
No, de-colonise the 'curriculum'. From schools to universities. Only Left-Think will be allowed. What do reckon to the thread I posted where science debunks wind farms? To be honest, I think that would put our curriculum back to the truth. I, for one, was never for a single moment taught about British colonial crimes and just how horrific and savage our country was during the Empire. Even the slave trade was taught about through the work of Wilberforce to abolish it rather than the horrific crimes of the empire in starting it. I haven't read it, but having worked in renewables, I'd be interested to, will have a look.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 7, 2020 14:15:09 GMT
No, de-colonise the 'curriculum'. From schools to universities. Only Left-Think will be allowed. What do reckon to the thread I posted where science debunks wind farms? To be honest, I think that would put our curriculum back to the truth. I, for one, was never for a single moment taught about British colonial crimes and just how horrific and savage our country was during the Empire. Even the slave trade was taught about through the work of Wilberforce to abolish it rather than the horrific crimes of the empire in starting it. I haven't read it, but having worked in renewables, I'd be interested to, will have a look. We should also include Barbary pirates enslaving many white slaves and black slave owners in the Middle East.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 7, 2020 14:18:09 GMT
No, de-colonise the 'curriculum'. From schools to universities. Only Left-Think will be allowed. What do reckon to the thread I posted where science debunks wind farms? To be honest, I think that would put our curriculum back to the truth. I, for one, was never for a single moment taught about British colonial crimes and just how horrific and savage our country was during the Empire. Even the slave trade was taught about through the work of Wilberforce to abolish it rather than the horrific crimes of the empire in starting it. I haven't read it, but having worked in renewables, I'd be interested to, will have a look. I'm a big, big fan of nuclear. The reason I always use EDF for my dual fuel provider.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 14:50:22 GMT
To be honest, I think that would put our curriculum back to the truth. I, for one, was never for a single moment taught about British colonial crimes and just how horrific and savage our country was during the Empire. Even the slave trade was taught about through the work of Wilberforce to abolish it rather than the horrific crimes of the empire in starting it. I haven't read it, but having worked in renewables, I'd be interested to, will have a look. We should also include Barbary pirates enslaving many white slaves and black slave owners in the Middle East. We absolutely should. We should provide balanced views of history instead of glorifying what was, in reality, a pretty damning and disgusting part of British history.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 14:51:00 GMT
To be honest, I think that would put our curriculum back to the truth. I, for one, was never for a single moment taught about British colonial crimes and just how horrific and savage our country was during the Empire. Even the slave trade was taught about through the work of Wilberforce to abolish it rather than the horrific crimes of the empire in starting it. I haven't read it, but having worked in renewables, I'd be interested to, will have a look. I'm a big, big fan of nuclear. The reason I always use EDF for my dual fuel provider. As am I, it would be a very useful transition between fossil fuels and whichever of hydrogen fuel, fusion, solar/wind etc. comes next.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 8, 2020 11:38:07 GMT
"Today is #InternationalWomensDay and we recognise that women are still far from equal to men in today’s societies. We can not have climate justice without gender equity." - Greta Thunberg ('s Dad on twitter). Whatever mate. Attachment Deleted
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2020 13:53:55 GMT
"Today is #InternationalWomensDay and we recognise that women are still far from equal to men in today’s societies. We can not have climate justice without gender equity." - Greta Thunberg ('s Dad on twitter). Whatever mate. View AttachmentTell me what you disagree with in the tweet.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Mar 8, 2020 13:59:46 GMT
Ban all foreign holidays. Ban all but business related flights. Reduce teachers holidays to 5 weeks per year, 2 of which are to be taken in the summer. The other 4 summer weeks set them to work picking strawberries etc reducing the carbon foot print of imported cheap labour. All at no extra cost to the exchequer. Simples.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 8, 2020 14:55:28 GMT
"Today is #InternationalWomensDay and we recognise that women are still far from equal to men in today’s societies. We can not have climate justice without gender equity." - Greta Thunberg ('s Dad on twitter). Whatever mate. Tell me what you disagree with in the tweet. Gender equality is not linked to Meteorology.
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