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Post by yeokel on Oct 3, 2019 11:05:28 GMT
What a bunch of wankers. I hope the clean-up bill is deducted ‘at source’, ie directly from their benefits. That also goes for the fines they receive, and costs when they are prosecuted for Criminal Damage’. Judging by the big black cloud of smoke, the generator they were using doesn’t appear to be particularly environmentally friendly either. Attachment DeletedBBC link
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Post by Dutchpeter on Oct 3, 2019 11:12:46 GMT
Usual Middle class suspects. Probably got bored with Black Lives Matter. Probably got huge houses and a life style that involves conspicuous consumption. I wonder where they fly to on holiday?
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Oct 3, 2019 12:16:20 GMT
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Post by Kilo on Oct 3, 2019 12:28:05 GMT
They are the dregs of society, especially the luuvie celebrity wankers like Emma fucking Thompson who'll fly 6,000 miles to come and tell me to put plastic bottles in the green bin. Tosser. The slagbag also flies all around the world to shout at people about poverty and injustice. What a twat! Still, I'll do my bit for the planet by never travelling to the cinema to see one of her shitty films.
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Post by xchpotter on Oct 3, 2019 13:54:31 GMT
They are the dregs of society, especially the luuvie celebrity wankers like Emma fucking Thompson who'll fly 6,000 miles to come and tell me to put plastic bottles in the green bin. Tosser. The slagbag also flies all around the world to shout at people about poverty and injustice. What a twat! Still, I'll do my bit for the planet by never travelling to the cinema to see one of her shitty films. Haha. She was on TV the other night pushing out some false tears about the world etc. Classic hypocrisy and trendy elitism "do as I say not as I do" approach.
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Post by felonious on Oct 3, 2019 14:48:29 GMT
Usual Middle class suspects. Probably got bored with Black Lives Matter. Probably got huge houses and a life style that involves conspicuous consumption. I wonder where they fly to on holiday? Just listening to a piece on the radio but it was saying that a few ex police are members including at least one ex chief constable.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 16, 2020 18:57:27 GMT
My point here IS NOT just about Extinction Rebellion...( by making this disruption they might just be doing the opposite of " winning friends and influencing people"......why not offer their time/services to do something POSITIVE that makes a difference in.a community and publicise it " we are doing this as part of aour cause, " climate emergency" ...please let me tell you about it" ..that would be novel)
Anyway, what I wanted to ask.....does this mean that anyone can block any road for ANY cause AND the police will assist you in closing the road.....or is it only Extinction Rebellion that get this privilege?.....orders from above?.....in other words, why don't the Police just move them on?
The French take a different approach...I'm not advocating their tactics
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Post by felonious on Feb 16, 2020 19:26:12 GMT
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 16, 2020 19:40:46 GMT
My point here IS NOT just about Extinction Rebellion...( by making this disruption they might just be doing the opposite of " winning friends and influencing people"......why not offer their time/services to do something POSITIVE that makes a difference in.a community and publicise it " we are doing this as part of aour cause, " climate emergency" ...please let me tell you about it" ..that would be novel) Anyway, what I wanted to ask.....does this mean that anyone can block any road for ANY cause AND the police will assist you in closing the road.....or is it only Extinction Rebellion that get this privilege?.....orders from above?.....in other words, why don't the Police just move them on? The French take a different approach...I'm not advocating their tactics Get a grip John. You’ve been posting for years on the ‘France’ thread & all of a sudden this lot are a problem...
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 16, 2020 19:46:20 GMT
My point here IS NOT just about Extinction Rebellion...( by making this disruption they might just be doing the opposite of " winning friends and influencing people"......why not offer their time/services to do something POSITIVE that makes a difference in.a community and publicise it " we are doing this as part of aour cause, " climate emergency" ...please let me tell you about it" ..that would be novel) Anyway, what I wanted to ask.....does this mean that anyone can block any road for ANY cause AND the police will assist you in closing the road.....or is it only Extinction Rebellion that get this privilege?.....orders from above?.....in other words, why don't the Police just move them on? The French take a different approach...I'm not advocating their tactics Get a grip John. You’ve been posting for years on the ‘France’ thread & all of a sudden this lot are a problem... Missed my point again Bath. If you read my post I did say "I'm not advocating their( the French ) tactics" My question is more about OUR police response to this compared to other disruptions. What do you think?
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 16, 2020 19:56:57 GMT
You know me John, I dont💋
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Feb 16, 2020 20:27:16 GMT
Documentary 9pm Channel 5 tonight.
I still can't make my mind up them, hopefully tonight's show is balanced.
On the one hand their message is probably one of the very few that is worth the shutdown of a major city, on the other blocking tube users from commuting was simply daft and the hypocrisy of the plastic mess left behind leaves a bad taste.
Anyway tonight's show will hopefully be a good watch.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 20:32:42 GMT
Nice protesting, helping people recycle, giving extra bottle bins hasn't worked and won't work.
The point of ER is to cause disruption. I agree they don't always get it right, mind.
To be honest, there are companies in this world that should be tried and convicted of criminal acts for the damage they will cause and are causing to the world. ER are being quite tame in relation to what they're fighting against.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 16, 2020 20:55:48 GMT
Nice protesting, helping people recycle, giving extra bottle bins hasn't worked and won't work. The point of ER is to cause disruption. I agree they don't always get it right, mind. To be honest, there are companies in this world that should be tried and convicted of criminal acts for the damage they will cause and are causing to the world. ER are being quite tame in relation to what they're fighting against. Well I think that they may cause disruption but I'm not convinced that the disruption will contribute one iota to their argument and goal, quite the reverse. I'm not talking about " helping people recycle" etc....clearly that will have zero effect at a time of climate emergency....I do think that they need to think a bit creatively so that some people might recognise them as " good people " and worth listening to.....I can't think of anything myself at the moment....but perhaps a well coordinated " event" involving both young and older people targeting a real concern in the local community. They are obviously prepared to give up their time...it's better to do something positive....from this local movements could grow and would gain credibility. I can accept that no violent protest MAY influence political thinking....I just think that they could be a bit more creative. I think Greta is organising a half day school strike somewhere( Germany?) again....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 21:08:02 GMT
Nice protesting, helping people recycle, giving extra bottle bins hasn't worked and won't work. The point of ER is to cause disruption. I agree they don't always get it right, mind. To be honest, there are companies in this world that should be tried and convicted of criminal acts for the damage they will cause and are causing to the world. ER are being quite tame in relation to what they're fighting against. Well I think that they may cause disruption but I'm not convinced that the disruption will contribute one iota to their argument and goal, quite the reverse. I'm not talking about " helping people recycle" etc....clearly that will have zero effect at a time of climate emergency....I do think that they need to think a bit creatively so that some people might recognise them as " good people " and worth listening to.....I can't think of anything myself at the moment....but perhaps a well coordinated " event" involving both young and older people targeting a real concern in the local community. They are obviously prepared to give up their time...it's better to do something positive....from this local movements could grow and would gain credibility. I think Greta is organising a half day school strike somewhere( Germany?) again.... I agree that they're struggling to get people to be enticed by them, but Im not sure how they can do that by making a real difference. If I'm honest, I don't think it'll be too long, maybe a few decades, before it turns violent against companies like Shell, BP, etc. ER have generally tried to be really polite, friendly, and cleaned up after themselves. But when you have a minority of idiots (the bloke on the tube, those with the hose), they take the focus away from the good stuff. We need to make people realise they are in genuine danger and unfortunately I don't think it's possible until there is a real catastrophe in their locality. Short of wildfires and drought in Britain, I don't think there is any way for ER to get everyone on board.
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Post by zerps on Feb 16, 2020 21:08:53 GMT
Just watching the xr documentary on channel 5. Why have all the women got handle bar moustaches?
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Post by maninasuitcase on Feb 16, 2020 21:11:24 GMT
Bunch of fucking swampy lookalikes.
Bet none of them recycle
Just a bunch of wankers as the OP says.
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Post by zerps on Feb 16, 2020 21:12:59 GMT
Bunch of fucking swampy lookalikes. Bet none of them recycle Just a bunch of wankers as the OP says. I bet they fucking stink. How is that environmentally sound?
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 16, 2020 21:19:25 GMT
Well I think that they may cause disruption but I'm not convinced that the disruption will contribute one iota to their argument and goal, quite the reverse. I'm not talking about " helping people recycle" etc....clearly that will have zero effect at a time of climate emergency....I do think that they need to think a bit creatively so that some people might recognise them as " good people " and worth listening to.....I can't think of anything myself at the moment....but perhaps a well coordinated " event" involving both young and older people targeting a real concern in the local community. They are obviously prepared to give up their time...it's better to do something positive....from this local movements could grow and would gain credibility. I think Greta is organising a half day school strike somewhere( Germany?) again.... I agree that they're struggling to get people to be enticed by them, but Im not sure how they can do that by making a real difference. If I'm honest, I don't think it'll be too long, maybe a few decades, before it turns violent against companies like Shell, BP, etc. ER have generally tried to be really polite, friendly, and cleaned up after themselves. But when you have a minority of idiots (the bloke on the tube, those with the hose), they take the focus away from the good stuff. We need to make people realise they are in genuine danger and unfortunately I don't think it's possible until there is a real catastrophe in their locality. Short of wildfires and drought in Britain, I don't think there is any way for ER to get everyone on board. Perhaps disrupting the PUBLIC is the wrong TARGET if you are trying to get them on board. I get the argument that it draws attention to the cause and may, MAY make politicians take some action BUT most people don't like their daily lives disrupted. Also I get it that XR believe that we are in an EMERGENCY and in THEIR logic a disrupted day is a very small price.....but I think that they have missed out the bit that OTHERS won't see it like that. Actually my point in reviving ing the thread was the role of the Police....have we now got an overtly political police force? Can any protest get assistance in closing roads?
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Post by zerps on Feb 16, 2020 21:21:52 GMT
They’re lame as fuck 😆
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 21:23:07 GMT
I agree that they're struggling to get people to be enticed by them, but Im not sure how they can do that by making a real difference. If I'm honest, I don't think it'll be too long, maybe a few decades, before it turns violent against companies like Shell, BP, etc. ER have generally tried to be really polite, friendly, and cleaned up after themselves. But when you have a minority of idiots (the bloke on the tube, those with the hose), they take the focus away from the good stuff. We need to make people realise they are in genuine danger and unfortunately I don't think it's possible until there is a real catastrophe in their locality. Short of wildfires and drought in Britain, I don't think there is any way for ER to get everyone on board. Perhaps disrupting the PUBLIC is the wrong TARGET if you are trying to get them on board. I get the argument that it draws attention to the cause and may, MAY make politicians take some action BUT most people don't like their daily lives disrupted. Also I get it that XR believe that we are in an EMERGENCY and in THEIR logic a disrupted day is a very small price.....but I think that they have missed out the bit that OTHERS won't see it like that. Actually my point in reviving ing the thread was the role of the Police....have we now got an overtly political police force? Can any protest get assistance in closing roads? It's a difficult line really isn't it. Frustrating to try and think of what else might work beyond criminal damage targeted at certain companies, but that wouldn't get the same coverage. Not a clue, I thought the point of ER was that they were happy to be arrested. That's what it was at the march I attended.
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Post by zerps on Feb 16, 2020 21:25:04 GMT
It’s the least rebel like anything I’ve ever seen. Like Andy Peters trying to impersonate Bob Geldof.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 16, 2020 21:26:08 GMT
Perhaps disrupting the PUBLIC is the wrong TARGET if you are trying to get them on board. I get the argument that it draws attention to the cause and may, MAY make politicians take some action BUT most people don't like their daily lives disrupted. Also I get it that XR believe that we are in an EMERGENCY and in THEIR logic a disrupted day is a very small price.....but I think that they have missed out the bit that OTHERS won't see it like that. Actually my point in reviving ing the thread was the role of the Police....have we now got an overtly political police force? Can any protest get assistance in closing roads? It's a difficult line really isn't it. Frustrating to try and think of what else might work beyond criminal damage targeted at certain companies, but that wouldn't get the same coverage. Not a clue, I thought the point of ER was that they were happy to be arrested. That's what it was at the march I attended. Yes I know that they set out to be arrested and think that they are peaceful and intend to be.....not sure that they will be perceived as such by those struggling to go about their daily business. Really it's the politicians who are the targets not the public
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Post by maninasuitcase on Feb 16, 2020 21:27:51 GMT
They all sit around stopping traffic, which builds up emission fumes in a concentrated area. Bell ends. I'd torch the fucking tents and let them contribute to global warming.
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Post by zerps on Feb 16, 2020 21:29:56 GMT
They all sit around stopping traffic, which builds up emission fumes in a concentrated area. Bell ends. I'd torch the fucking tents and let them contribute to global warming. They need all orifices welding shut to stop emissions
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 21:30:43 GMT
It's a difficult line really isn't it. Frustrating to try and think of what else might work beyond criminal damage targeted at certain companies, but that wouldn't get the same coverage. Not a clue, I thought the point of ER was that they were happy to be arrested. That's what it was at the march I attended. Yes I know that they set out to be arrested and think that they are peaceful and intend to be.....not sure that they will be perceived as such by those struggling to go about their daily business. Really it's the politicians who are the targets not the public Yes very much so, god knows how they can do it though. Like I say, I imagine nothing will happen for a decade and then it'll come to riots.
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Post by vokeswagen on Feb 16, 2020 21:35:36 GMT
The "death cult" of which you speak are more likely the people doing nothing except ridiculing ER. See you on a dinghy somewhere in the Atlantic, wondering where it all went wrong pal. (And no, you can't have my tofu wraps, you quim )
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Post by zerps on Feb 16, 2020 21:35:47 GMT
Yes I know that they set out to be arrested and think that they are peaceful and intend to be.....not sure that they will be perceived as such by those struggling to go about their daily business. Really it's the politicians who are the targets not the public Yes very much so, god knows how they can do it though. Like I say, I imagine nothing will happen for a decade and then it'll come to riots. They’re pretend activists. This is the funniest thing I’ve ever watched. They couldn’t riot save their lives.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 21:36:20 GMT
They all sit around stopping traffic, which builds up emission fumes in a concentrated area. Bell ends. I'd torch the fucking tents and let them contribute to global warming. The point is that this isn't the fault of singular people, but of global corps. 100 of whom contribute 70% of global emissions.
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Post by zerps on Feb 16, 2020 21:37:59 GMT
At least fathers 4 justice dressed as batman
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