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Post by salopstick on Oct 29, 2019 11:19:54 GMT
Labour to back early general election www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50221856The Great British Brexit Cull is coming Change UK history Chukka history There will be a lot of remain MPs shitting it |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2019 11:19:55 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Oct 29, 2019 11:24:36 GMT
NO DEAL will never be off the table as it is written into the laws as the default position should no deal be met.
Delaying no deal continually is a different story
All smoke and mirrors. He’s backed into a corner and either has to tell his party to accept a deal or face a GE where he can win and bring in his version of Brexit.
We will now have a Tory Manifesto based on leave preferably with Boris Deal versus Labour Manifesto of a possible labour re-negotiation deal put forward to the people.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 29, 2019 11:37:01 GMT
Well if the 'mastermind' Cummings is as useful in an election campaign as he has been these past 100 days I can see a re-run of 2017. I expect the polls to tighten and the filthiest, dirtiest campaign in history to ensue.
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Post by franklin66 on Oct 29, 2019 11:40:57 GMT
Well it's about time the commie tosspot did. They are going to get shit on from millions of voters and I hope they get wiped out just like the lib dems did. He will never get my vote again or from anyone in my household. How anyone can vote for them is beyond me they are a thick dysfunctional terorist sympathising bunch of fuckwits. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 29, 2019 11:47:54 GMT
Well it's about time the commie tosspot did. They are going to get shit on from millions of voters and I hope they get wiped out just like the lib dems did. He will never get my vote again or from anyone in my household. How anyone can vote for them is beyond me they are a thick dysfunctional terorist sympathising bunch of fuckwits. The Tories are a bunch of racist, hard right wing, poor hating, entitled posh boys who killed people with austerity so their own nests didn't become de-feathered. Should be a good contest. |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 29, 2019 11:57:13 GMT
Well if the 'mastermind' Cummings is as useful in an election campaign as he has been these past 100 days I can see a re-run of 2017. I expect the polls to tighten and the filthiest, dirtiest campaign in history to ensue. Boris had the backing of 200 Tory Mp's and 2:1 of party members. Boris threw out 21 rebels. The EU reopened their WA and removed the backstop. Boris' deal passed 2nd reading in HoC. Boris has pushed Labour, SNP and the Lib Dems into his December election. Cummings won the referendum. Imagine what Cumming's will do with a Boris majority. It's going to be glorious comrade. |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 29, 2019 12:00:07 GMT
Well it's about time the commie tosspot did. They are going to get shit on from millions of voters and I hope they get wiped out just like the lib dems did. He will never get my vote again or from anyone in my household. How anyone can vote for them is beyond me they are a thick dysfunctional terorist sympathising bunch of fuckwits. The Tories are a bunch of racist, hard right wing, poor hating, entitled posh boys who killed people with austerity so their own nests didn't become de-feathered. Should be a good contest. Wacists! Hard Right! Posh Boys! Get the Tories out innit! I thought the 6th Form was on half term. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 29, 2019 12:13:08 GMT
The Tories are a bunch of racist, hard right wing, poor hating, entitled posh boys who killed people with austerity so their own nests didn't become de-feathered. Should be a good contest. Wacists! Hard Right! Posh Boys! Get the Tories out innit! I thought the 6th Form was on half term. I was responding to Franklin's sixth form post dodgepot, I remember you were full of beans pre 2017 then disappeared for about 3 months afterwards.  Don't worry comrade, when change arrives, Jeremy will only make you pay what you and your sort owe. |
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Post by Eggybread on Oct 29, 2019 12:26:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2019 12:27:28 GMT
Well it's about time the commie tosspot did. They are going to get shit on from millions of voters and I hope they get wiped out just like the lib dems did. He will never get my vote again or from anyone in my household. How anyone can vote for them is beyond me they are a thick dysfunctional terorist sympathising bunch of fuckwits. Sounds liked voting fraud going on in the franklin household. Scandalous....... |
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Post by felonious on Oct 29, 2019 12:32:18 GMT
NO DEAL will never be off the table as it is written into the laws as the default position should no deal be met. Delaying no deal continually is a different story All smoke and mirrors. He’s backed into a corner and either has to tell his party to accept a deal or face a GE where he can win and bring in his version of Brexit. We will now have a Tory Manifesto based on leave preferably with Boris Deal versus Labour Manifesto of a possible labour re-negotiation deal put forward to the people. Unfortunately neither manifesto will be worth the paper it's written on. These two sets of liars got 84% of the vote last time out promising Brexit. Why would anyone trust them? |
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Post by felonious on Oct 29, 2019 12:34:46 GMT
The Tories are a bunch of racist, hard right wing, poor hating, entitled posh boys who killed people with austerity so their own nests didn't become de-feathered. Should be a good contest. Wacists! Hard Right! Posh Boys! Get the Tories out innit! I thought the 6th Form was on half term. Dunna worry duck, Wolfie is alive and well  |
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Post by salopstick on Oct 29, 2019 12:36:13 GMT
NO DEAL will never be off the table as it is written into the laws as the default position should no deal be met. Delaying no deal continually is a different story All smoke and mirrors. He’s backed into a corner and either has to tell his party to accept a deal or face a GE where he can win and bring in his version of Brexit. We will now have a Tory Manifesto based on leave preferably with Boris Deal versus Labour Manifesto of a possible labour re-negotiation deal put forward to the people. Unfortunately neither manifesto will be worth the paper it's written on. These two sets of liars got 84% of the vote last time out promising Brexit. Why would anyone trust them? For a start Ken Clarke (and there are others like them) remainer not standing. His replacement will be a Tory leaver. And will probably win the seat. There will be enough Tory leavers to pass brexit. I am assuming a Tory majority |
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Post by felonious on Oct 29, 2019 12:38:18 GMT
Unfortunately neither manifesto will be worth the paper it's written on. These two sets of liars got 84% of the vote last time out promising Brexit. Why would anyone trust them? For a start Ken Clarke (and there are others like them) remainer not standing. His replacement will be a Tory leaver. And will probably win the seat. There will be enough Tory leavers to pass brexit. I am assuming a Tory majority Are you forgetting The Brexit Party or do you think they'll stand aside against pro Brexit candidates? |
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Post by salopstick on Oct 29, 2019 12:48:20 GMT
For a start Ken Clarke (and there are others like them) remainer not standing. His replacement will be a Tory leaver. And will probably win the seat. There will be enough Tory leavers to pass brexit. I am assuming a Tory majority Are you forgetting The Brexit Party or do you think they'll stand aside against pro Brexit candidates? I don’t think they will be as big a threat now there is a deal on the table and a Tory party that knows it will pass and they have to pass it |
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Post by franklin66 on Oct 29, 2019 12:54:40 GMT
Well it's about time the commie tosspot did. They are going to get shit on from millions of voters and I hope they get wiped out just like the lib dems did. He will never get my vote again or from anyone in my household. How anyone can vote for them is beyond me they are a thick dysfunctional terorist sympathising bunch of fuckwits. Sounds liked voting fraud going on in the franklin household. Scandalous....... Nah just all of the same opinion on how best to treat traitors. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 29, 2019 12:56:11 GMT
Sounds liked voting fraud going on in the franklin household. Scandalous....... Nah just all of the same opinion on how best to treat traitors. You mean traitors like the ERG and the PM himself for voting for a deal they hate and would have voted against if May (or anyone else) had brought it forward? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2019 12:56:54 GMT
Hung parliament here we come.....  |
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Post by franklin66 on Oct 29, 2019 13:07:43 GMT
Nah just all of the same opinion on how best to treat traitors. You mean traitors like the ERG and the PM himself for voting for a deal they hate and would have voted against if May (or anyone else) had brought it forward? Unfortunately none of those are my MP and as such I cant influence those appointments. I look at my local MP a traitor I can help to make unemployed. I know there is more than Brexit but not to me and not at the moment. If you genuinely believe Corbyn and those bunch of loonies are best for the UK fair enough I don't. |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 29, 2019 13:14:51 GMT
Wacists! Hard Right! Posh Boys! Get the Tories out innit! I thought the 6th Form was on half term. I was responding to Franklin's sixth form post dodgepot, I remember you were full of beans pre 2017 then disappeared for about 3 months afterwards. Don't worry comrade, when change arrives, Jeremy will only make you pay what you and your sort owe. Yes I was disappointed by May's performance and her subsequent remain tactics..... but she beat Corbyn and so will Boris. Seriously what do labour door knockers say to labour leavers? Jeremy's going to renegotiate the whole WA then campaign to remain in a 2nd referendum The last time Labour won an election with someone not called Blair was 1974. Corbyn ain't the next guy. |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 29, 2019 13:17:27 GMT
Hung parliament here we come..... Here's one Labour voter aiming for the stars  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2019 13:20:02 GMT
I was responding to Franklin's sixth form post dodgepot, I remember you were full of beans pre 2017 then disappeared for about 3 months afterwards. Don't worry comrade, when change arrives, Jeremy will only make you pay what you and your sort owe. Yes I was disappointed by May's performance and her subsequent remain tactics..... but she beat Corbyn and so will Boris. Seriously what do labour door knockers say to labour leavers? Jeremy's going to renegotiate the whole WA then campaign to remain in a 2nd referendum The last time Labour won an election with someone not called Blair was 1974. Corbyn ain't the next guy. I think they say 'we'll be putting forward a new negotiation, and that will be on the ballot against remain. The party itself would prefer remain, but we accept that this isn't the view of everyone in the country, so we will let them decide which option they prefer between our deal and remain.' There's a lot of shit you can levee at Corbyn, but I don't get the issue with his stances here, he's clear that he wants to renegotiate and put to the people. |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 29, 2019 13:20:18 GMT
Unravelling .....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2019 13:21:12 GMT
I'd imagine it'll probably be a hung parliament, and another Con-Lib coalition govt will emerge.
Depressingly likely.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2019 13:22:02 GMT
Hung parliament here we come..... Here's one Labour voter aiming for the stars It's a prediction roger. Like when you said the Tories would get a massive majority in 2017....... |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 29, 2019 13:25:26 GMT
Yes I was disappointed by May's performance and her subsequent remain tactics..... but she beat Corbyn and so will Boris. Seriously what do labour door knockers say to labour leavers? Jeremy's going to renegotiate the whole WA then campaign to remain in a 2nd referendum The last time Labour won an election with someone not called Blair was 1974. Corbyn ain't the next guy. I think they say 'we'll be putting forward a new negotiation, and that will be on the ballot against remain. The party itself would prefer remain, but we accept that this isn't the view of everyone in the country, so we will let them decide which option they prefer between our deal and remain.' There's a lot of shit you can levee at Corbyn, but I don't get the issue with his stances here, he's clear that he wants to renegotiate and put to the people. He's been railroaded into turning Labour into remain party. We already had a vote to leave when 'no deal' was definitely on the table. Tell me another EU Treaty that was put before the electorate. None is the answer. It's remain hiding behind a rigged peoples vote. Corbyn's Brexit is a customs union and single market access which comes with the EU's 4 freedoms. It's trying to reverse the ref result and calling it democracy. |
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Post by 4372 on Oct 29, 2019 13:27:13 GMT
Unfortunately neither manifesto will be worth the paper it's written on. These two sets of liars got 84% of the vote last time out promising Brexit. Why would anyone trust them? For a start Ken Clarke (and there are others like them) remainer not standing. His replacement will be a Tory leaver. And will probably win the seat. There will be enough Tory leavers to pass brexit. I am assuming a Tory majority The Schlieffen Plan assumed that the Germans would overrun France in a few days in the autumn of 1914. The Maginot Line assumed that the Germans would attack France by land in 1939.... |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 29, 2019 13:27:13 GMT
Here's one Labour voter aiming for the stars It's a prediction roger. Like when you said the Tories would get a massive majority in 2017....... Nah, it's the best you can hope for. Yeah we didn't win as well as we thought but it was enough to be Government....... again. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2019 13:29:45 GMT
I think they say 'we'll be putting forward a new negotiation, and that will be on the ballot against remain. The party itself would prefer remain, but we accept that this isn't the view of everyone in the country, so we will let them decide which option they prefer between our deal and remain.' There's a lot of shit you can levee at Corbyn, but I don't get the issue with his stances here, he's clear that he wants to renegotiate and put to the people. He's been railroaded into turning Labour into remain party. We already had a vote to leave when 'no deal' was definitely on the table. Tell me another EU Treaty that was put before the electorate. None is the answer. It's remain hiding behind a rigged peoples vote. Corbyn's Brexit is a customs union and single market access which comes with the EU's 4 freedoms. It's trying to reverse the ref result and calling it democracy. I think that means he's of the opinion that no deal is too damaging to the country to be conscionable. Which I agree with personally, but I take the point. No deal should be on the ballot too. In fairness though, if it is, Leavers would criticise it as trying to split the leave vote. |
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