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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 14:57:17 GMT
Vote Labour and let's bring our Shamima Begum home! Yep, and arrest her like we should've done. |
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Post by serpico on Nov 14, 2019 15:12:07 GMT
See Bonzo has jibbed out of going to Glastonbury this afternoon, cause there were protesters there. He’s a £@#&!n lightweight. He’s going to have to get used to this, cause he’s not the most likeable of people. At least Corbyn turns up to his appointments. Man up Joris! Speaking of Glastonbury, came across this the other day (not literally, that would be odd) |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Nov 14, 2019 15:15:15 GMT
I understand there's a very small chance it could be photo shopped but here's Abacus leaving her legacy in Hansard... Yeah, I can't agree with that. No one who's left to fight or support ISIS should be allowed back... and anyone supporting them here should be kicked out as well. It's treason in my opinion and their nationality should be revoked without question. If her family want to see her then they can go to wherever she is. Her ISIS husband was Dutch apparently so there's an option for her plus having a Bangladeshi mother allows her to obtain that nationality as well. Funny how this 16 year old is naive, brainwashed and vulnerable but Labour are pushing for the vote for 16 year olds. |
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Post by Davef on Nov 14, 2019 15:17:10 GMT
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Nov 14, 2019 15:41:49 GMT
Traditional Labour voters give Conservative PM a frosty reception in the the middle of a flood crisis and a lefty journo gives his opinion that Boris isn't very good - shocker. That article mentions the Somerset levels flooding but the link just talks about flood defence promises from the Lib Dems and 3 out 7 of the proposed projects were arguably'up North'. This 'if the floods were in Surrey Boris would call a national disaster' is pure bollocks. My sister lives in Swaledale. She helped clean houses after the floods in Reeth. Her MP, Rishi Sunak was there at the beginning middle and end. The World Road cycling race was diverted because of flooding which costs locals 100's if thousands. Sunak was there. There have already been bridge repairs with emergency money from Westminster. Sunak was heckled. The Somerset Levels were on a different scale. The "money no object" quote from Cameron was regarding a 20 year £100 million plan. Labour spin and lies. Here's Milliband getting heckled by the local MP in Somerset |
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Post by Northy on Nov 14, 2019 15:52:11 GMT
See Bonzo has jibbed out of going to Glastonbury this afternoon, cause there were protesters there. He’s a £@#&!n lightweight. He’s going to have to get used to this, cause he’s not the most likeable of people. At least Corbyn turns up to his appointments. Man up Joris! Corbyn's tends to be in small halls and not pre announced, he got heckled yesterday, Jihadi headscarf, and walked off, he's very hated We all know that Labour activists are being planted where Johnson is going, which tends to be announced as the media will be following him. |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Nov 14, 2019 16:03:04 GMT
See Bonzo has jibbed out of going to Glastonbury this afternoon, cause there were protesters there. He’s a £@#&!n lightweight. He’s going to have to get used to this, cause he’s not the most likeable of people. At least Corbyn turns up to his appointments. Man up Joris! Corbyn's tends to be in small halls and not pre announced, he got heckled yesterday, Jihadi headscarf, and walked off, he's very hated We all know that Labour activists are being planted where Johnson is going, which tends to be announced as the media will be following him. Here's Jezza knocking 'em bandy.... |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Nov 14, 2019 16:08:32 GMT
Vote Labour and let's bring our Shamima Begum home! Fucking hell Diane, leave the spin to Seamus.... |
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 14, 2019 16:14:22 GMT
Vote Labour and let's bring our Shamima Begum home! Yep, and arrest her like we should've done. Arrest her absolutely and then the evidence for any wrongdoing where are you going to get that from ? If you dont have it before you know it the bring her home crowd will be shouting let her free, compo for wrongful arrest blah de blah honestly fuck her and anyone else who went abroad to join isis, same goes for the white lad from Somerset he can get fucked, enjoy your caliphate. The children born over there I would have no problem them being bought back to the UK not their fault their parents were psychos. |
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Post by Davef on Nov 14, 2019 16:17:07 GMT
Traditional Labour voters give Conservative PM a frosty reception in the the middle of a flood crisis and a lefty journo gives his opinion that Boris isn't very good - shocker. That article mentions the Somerset levels flooding but the link just talks about flood defence promises from the Lib Dems and 3 out 7 of the proposed projects were arguably'up North'. This 'if the floods were in Surrey Boris would call a national disaster' is pure bollocks. My sister lives in Swaledale. She helped clean houses after the floods in Reeth. Her MP, Rishi Sunak was there at the beginning middle and end. The World Road cycling race was diverted because of flooding which costs locals 100's if thousands. Sunak was there. There have already been bridge repairs with emergency money from Westminster. Sunak was heckled. The Somerset Levels were on a different scale. The "money no object" quote from Cameron was regarding a 20 year £100 million plan. Labour spin and lies. Here's Milliband getting heckled by the local MP in Somerset When you've finished ranting (and perhaps read the article), you'll see that Robyn Vinter is making the point that Johnson's actions (or inaction in this case) may well cost him a majority in Parliament. In contrast to Cameron, who as she points out cancelled a trip to the middle east to visit the Somerset flood victims. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 14, 2019 16:33:35 GMT
Priti Vacant at it again
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 14, 2019 16:35:08 GMT
He's a fucking laugh isn't he 
Boris Johnson labelled climate change protesters “crusties” after security concerns forced him to change his election campaign visit to a bakery, the Press Association reports. Extinction Rebellion activists were positioned outside Burns The Bread in Glastonbury, Somerset, prompting a decision to divert the prime minister to one of the company’s shops in Wells. At the shop in Wells Johnson commented on the change in plan, saying: “There were lots of crusties there - more crusty than your loaves.” |
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Nov 14, 2019 16:55:00 GMT
I understand there's a very small chance it could be photo shopped but here's Abacus leaving her legacy in Hansard... Yeah, I can't agree with that. No one who's left to fight or support ISIS should be allowed back... and anyone supporting them here should be kicked out as well. It's treason in my opinion and their nationality should be revoked without question. If her family want to see her then they can go to wherever she is. Couldn't agree more. Just when I'm starting to loosen on my "vote Labour but hold my nose" grip, you read and witness this. She must never, ever be allowed to return. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 17:11:26 GMT
Yeah, I can't agree with that. No one who's left to fight or support ISIS should be allowed back... and anyone supporting them here should be kicked out as well. It's treason in my opinion and their nationality should be revoked without question. If her family want to see her then they can go to wherever she is. Her ISIS husband was Dutch apparently so there's an option for her plus having a Bangladeshi mother allows her to obtain that nationality as well. Funny how this 16 year old is naive, brainwashed and vulnerable but Labour are pushing for the vote for 16 year olds. Begum was 15. You can be brainwashed at any age, but she was legally not old enough to make that decision rationally. Voting is slightly different, if you can pay tax/NI, you should be able to vote for representation in parliament. |
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Post by serpico on Nov 14, 2019 17:18:25 GMT
He's a fucking laugh isn't he
Boris Johnson labelled climate change protesters “crusties” after security concerns forced him to change his election campaign visit to a bakery, the Press Association reports. Extinction Rebellion activists were positioned outside Burns The Bread in Glastonbury, Somerset, prompting a decision to divert the prime minister to one of the company’s shops in Wells. At the shop in Wells Johnson commented on the change in plan, saying: “There were lots of crusties there - more crusty than your loaves.”sometimes when you think you're damaging someone you're actually making them stronger in the eyes of the wider public, the wider public don't like ER or its methods, the Tories probably secretly hope they show up at future events on the campaign trail. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 17:21:14 GMT
Yep, and arrest her like we should've done. Arrest her absolutely and then the evidence for any wrongdoing where are you going to get that from ? If you dont have it before you know it the bring her home crowd will be shouting let her free, compo for wrongful arrest blah de blah honestly fuck her and anyone else who went abroad to join isis, same goes for the white lad from Somerset he can get fucked, enjoy your caliphate. The children born over there I would have no problem them being bought back to the UK not their fault their parents were psychos. If you don't have the evidence then under the law she should not be punished. There is lots of evidence she joined ISIS with a view to commit crimes against the country. Again, I think we should deal with our own rubbish rather than throwing her to someone else and letting her poor kid die. |
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Post by serpico on Nov 14, 2019 17:22:41 GMT
Her ISIS husband was Dutch apparently so there's an option for her plus having a Bangladeshi mother allows her to obtain that nationality as well. Funny how this 16 year old is naive, brainwashed and vulnerable but Labour are pushing for the vote for 16 year olds. Begum was 15. You can be brainwashed at any age, but she was legally not old enough to make that decision rationally. Voting is slightly different, if you can pay tax/NI, you should be able to vote for representation in parliament. Ive always said that if the kid is under the age of 18 then their parents should be punished if one of their kids goes off to fight in "jihad"... a big fine or imprisoned, if their parents are heavily punished this might make these kids think twice before going off to these countries and it also might make parents take a closer look at what their kids are up to. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 17:25:19 GMT
Begum was 15. You can be brainwashed at any age, but she was legally not old enough to make that decision rationally. Voting is slightly different, if you can pay tax/NI, you should be able to vote for representation in parliament. Ive always said that if the kid is under the age of 18 then their parents should be punished if one of their kids goes off to fight in "jihad"... a big fine or imprisoned, if their parents are heavily punished this might make these kids think twice before going off to these countries and it also might make parents take a closer look at what their kids are up to. I don't think you can always blame parents for these things. Especially not nowadays with the internet and the ease of secrecy. The people who are to blame are those who groomed her. ISIS themselves. She needs to be incarcerated and given counselling. |
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Post by serpico on Nov 14, 2019 17:42:55 GMT
Ive always said that if the kid is under the age of 18 then their parents should be punished if one of their kids goes off to fight in "jihad"... a big fine or imprisoned, if their parents are heavily punished this might make these kids think twice before going off to these countries and it also might make parents take a closer look at what their kids are up to. I don't think you can always blame parents for these things. Especially not nowadays with the internet and the ease of secrecy. The people who are to blame are those who groomed her. ISIS themselves. She needs to be incarcerated and given counselling. Dog owners can be held responsible if their dog attacks someone, why not humans ? they've raised the kid, surely in a muslim family they talk about such things ? i think the same should apply to those school shooters in the US too, it would make parents take more of an active interest in what their kid is up to. I'm only talking about under 18s, not grown adults, you can't realistically hold a parent responsible for what their 30 year old son or daughter does, but under 18 ? i think its fair. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 14, 2019 17:43:56 GMT
He's a fucking laugh isn't he
Boris Johnson labelled climate change protesters “crusties” after security concerns forced him to change his election campaign visit to a bakery, the Press Association reports. Extinction Rebellion activists were positioned outside Burns The Bread in Glastonbury, Somerset, prompting a decision to divert the prime minister to one of the company’s shops in Wells. At the shop in Wells Johnson commented on the change in plan, saying: “There were lots of crusties there - more crusty than your loaves.”sometimes when you think you're damaging someone you're actually making them stronger in the eyes of the wider public, the wider public don't like ER or its methods, the Tories probably secretly hope they show up at future events on the campaign trail. I'm not sure his clear disdain for any type of climate change activist and his hatred of anything that isn't (small c) conservative plays particularly well with young voters to be honest serp. |
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Post by serpico on Nov 14, 2019 17:51:35 GMT
sometimes when you think you're damaging someone you're actually making them stronger in the eyes of the wider public, the wider public don't like ER or its methods, the Tories probably secretly hope they show up at future events on the campaign trail. I'm not sure his clear disdain for any type of climate change activist and his hatred of anything that isn't (small c) conservative plays particularly well with young voters to be honest serp. Not sure he has a disdain for them all, he's a bit soft himself on the whole climate change thing, but that group in particular is not liked due to the disruption they cause people going about their daily business, it takes away from whatever message they're trying to get across and just irritates people, outside of the climate change echo chamber they're not well liked, even amongst people who have sympathy for their cause. The tories never do particularly well with the youth so probably no harm done there. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 18:03:03 GMT
I don't think you can always blame parents for these things. Especially not nowadays with the internet and the ease of secrecy. The people who are to blame are those who groomed her. ISIS themselves. She needs to be incarcerated and given counselling. Dog owners can be held responsible if their dog attacks someone, why not humans ? they've raised the kid, surely in a muslim family they talk about such things ? i think the same should apply to those school shooters in the US too, it would make parents take more of an active interest in what their kid is up to. I'm only talking about under 18s, not grown adults, you can't realistically hold a parent responsible for what their 30 year old son or daughter does, but under 18 ? i think its fair. Because, oddly enough, dogs are different to humans. |
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Post by salopstick on Nov 14, 2019 18:04:42 GMT
Yeah, I can't agree with that. No one who's left to fight or support ISIS should be allowed back... and anyone supporting them here should be kicked out as well. It's treason in my opinion and their nationality should be revoked without question. If her family want to see her then they can go to wherever she is. Her ISIS husband was Dutch apparently so there's an option for her plus having a Bangladeshi mother allows her to obtain that nationality as well. Funny how this 16 year old is naive, brainwashed and vulnerable but Labour are pushing for the vote for 16 year olds. They can never win that argument after that |
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Post by salopstick on Nov 14, 2019 18:06:07 GMT
Ive always said that if the kid is under the age of 18 then their parents should be punished if one of their kids goes off to fight in "jihad"... a big fine or imprisoned, if their parents are heavily punished this might make these kids think twice before going off to these countries and it also might make parents take a closer look at what their kids are up to. I don't think you can always blame parents for these things. Especially not nowadays with the internet and the ease of secrecy. The people who are to blame are those who groomed her. ISIS themselves. She needs to be incarcerated and given counselling. I blame your dad |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Nov 14, 2019 18:11:41 GMT
I don't think you can always blame parents for these things. Especially not nowadays with the internet and the ease of secrecy. The people who are to blame are those who groomed her. ISIS themselves. She needs to be incarcerated and given counselling. I blame your dad I don't want to encourage him and I don't want to curry favour with his dad because we know that he is lacking in many ways and has lost the plot but I do think that lilfraise holds his own on here and makes his argument better than 99% of the other voters who argue for Labour or the EU. I'm not saying that I agree with him. |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Nov 14, 2019 18:14:05 GMT
'more crusty than your loaves'. That is funny!  |
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Post by salopstick on Nov 14, 2019 18:20:25 GMT
I don't want to encourage him and I don't want to curry favour with his dad because we know that he is lacking in many ways and has lost the plot but I do think that lilfraise holds his own on here and makes his argument better than 99% of the other voters who argue for Labour or the EU. I'm not saying that I agree with him. Stay off the gin my friend |
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Post by serpico on Nov 14, 2019 18:25:42 GMT
Dog owners can be held responsible if their dog attacks someone, why not humans ? they've raised the kid, surely in a muslim family they talk about such things ? i think the same should apply to those school shooters in the US too, it would make parents take more of an active interest in what their kid is up to. I'm only talking about under 18s, not grown adults, you can't realistically hold a parent responsible for what their 30 year old son or daughter does, but under 18 ? i think its fair. Because, oddly enough, dogs are different to humans. The point is about responsibility, under 18 you're still responsible for your kid, so why not hold parents to account for what they do ? |
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Post by M on Nov 14, 2019 18:26:10 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Nov 14, 2019 18:28:22 GMT
I don't want to encourage him and I don't want to curry favour with his dad because we know that he is lacking in many ways and has lost the plot but I do think that lilfraise holds his own on here and makes his argument better than 99% of the other voters who argue for Labour or the EU. I'm not saying that I agree with him. Stay off the gin my friend I'm on the wine.. perhaps it reflects as much on the arguments coming from the ' left'.... for instance there's never a great argument FOR the EU, and most posts seem to culminate " attack the person" ie the politician or " attack the poster" . Lil seems to restrict his argument to the issues. In my intermittent observation. |
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