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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 29, 2019 16:18:17 GMT
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Post by franklin66 on Oct 29, 2019 16:25:12 GMT
Why should EU citizens have a vote !! Become a British citizen then vote away until then no. Because they pay taxes. Ridiculous. |
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Post by franklin66 on Oct 29, 2019 16:28:07 GMT
Question 1: it's getting there still work to do in reducing debt. Question 2: Vital services ? NHS, Schools, policing etc no problem give them more. Needs money though... Lazy cnuts: I've worked hard to allow me to be lazy by choice, rich people are fortunate but hey ho that's life. There is a difference neither of us holds our hands out expecting money lazy cnuts do. 1. National debt has more than doubled under the Tories. 2. so you use the money for them. Spending money on public services increases standard of living and increases spending, improving economy. Austerity does not work. www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/fandd/2016/06/ostry.htm'hey ho' isn't a reasonable explanation for why some people are born into millions and others can't afford food. And neither is 'the poor ones are lazy' cause it turns out, that is factually not true. Who said the poor were lazy? Here is an explanation for you "life is not fair" get on with it. |
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 29, 2019 16:31:36 GMT
If you lived, worked and paid taxes in France, Spain, Germany, Italy or anywhere else in the EU, would you be able to vote in their domestic elections? Nope. |
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Post by Northy on Oct 29, 2019 16:33:15 GMT
£300m is nowt? What about the doctors and nurses time that could be seeing legal residents. No wonder you want more money, more money will solve everything when it's somebody else's money. The NHS estimated waste last count was nearly £8 billion a year, that's about 6% of it's budget, how many extra nurses could be employed for that and existing ones given a pay rise ? |
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 29, 2019 16:40:16 GMT
It costs the health tourists nowt however:
First off, the £2bn figure being cited on Monday might be a memorable number but it's also rather higher than the government is claiming. The report says:
"We think that this probably in the range £1.5bn to £1.9bn." from the Department of Health not sure if it includes the cost of treating illegal immigrants I would hardly call that nowt.
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Post by Northy on Oct 29, 2019 16:44:29 GMT
It costs the health tourists nowt however:
First off, the £2bn figure being cited on Monday might be a memorable number but it's also rather higher than the government is claiming. The report says:
"We think that this probably in the range £1.5bn to £1.9bn." from the Department of Health not sure if it includes the cost of treating illegal immigrants I would hardly call that nowt.
One alone was recently quoted as nearly £150k with no means to pay |
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Post by franklin66 on Oct 29, 2019 16:45:13 GMT
£300m is nowt? What about the doctors and nurses time that could be seeing legal residents. No wonder you want more money, more money will solve everything when it's somebody else's money. The NHS estimated waste last count was nearly £8 billion a year, that's about 6% of it's budget, how many extra nurses could be employed for that and existing ones given a pay rise ? It's a massive issue for those who live in the real world. |
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Oct 29, 2019 16:52:23 GMT
So the Conservatives are all for an election but not if EU citizens or 16-17 year olds are allowed to vote? British citizens, or any European citizen for that matter, living in anyother European country don't get to vote in their national elections, so why should we allow it? Likewise if you need the votes of children to get you into power it's perhaps a sign that you should ditch your juvenile fantasies in favour of some grown-up policies. |
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 29, 2019 16:58:54 GMT
So the Conservatives are all for an election but not if EU citizens or 16-17 year olds are allowed to vote? British citizens, or any European citizen for that matter, living in anyother European country don't get to vote in their national elections, so why should we allow it? Likewise if you need the votes of children to get you into power it's perhaps a sign that you should ditch your juvenile fantasies in favour of some grown-up policies. Free unicorns for all sixteen - seventeen year olds and free university education should do it. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 29, 2019 17:01:19 GMT
Who'll vote for it? The Tories, the Lib Dems and the SNP all want an election before Christmas, so why would they vote for that amendment? |
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Post by franklin66 on Oct 29, 2019 17:03:44 GMT
British citizens, or any European citizen for that matter, living in anyother European country don't get to vote in their national elections, so why should we allow it? Likewise if you need the votes of children to get you into power it's perhaps a sign that you should ditch your juvenile fantasies in favour of some grown-up policies. Free unicorns for all sixteen - seventeen year olds and free university education should do it. We shouldn't laugh but it's hard not to its blatant, desperate attempts for votes. |
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 29, 2019 17:03:52 GMT
It costs the health tourists nowt however:
First off, the £2bn figure being cited on Monday might be a memorable number but it's also rather higher than the government is claiming. The report says:
"We think that this probably in the range £1.5bn to £1.9bn." from the Department of Health not sure if it includes the cost of treating illegal immigrants I would hardly call that nowt.
One alone was recently quoted as nearly £150k with no means to pay A hospital spent £181,000 treating a single illegal immigrant, it was reported on Sunday night. |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Oct 29, 2019 17:06:36 GMT
So the Conservatives are all for an election but not if EU citizens or 16-17 year olds are allowed to vote? British citizens, or any European citizen for that matter, living in anyother European country don't get to vote in their national elections, so why should we allow it? Likewise if you need the votes of children to get you into power it's perhaps a sign that you should ditch your juvenile fantasies in favour of some grown-up policies. Depends where they lived - if they were in Ireland or Scandanavia they would probably have the right to vote. |
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Post by GrahamHyde on Oct 29, 2019 17:08:10 GMT
So the Conservatives are all for an election but not if EU citizens or 16-17 year olds are allowed to vote? British citizens, or any European citizen for that matter, living in anyother European country don't get to vote in their national elections, so why should we allow it? Likewise if you need the votes of children to get you into power it's perhaps a sign that you should ditch your juvenile fantasies in favour of some grown-up policies. I'd support giving 16-17 year olds the right to vote over those 80-85 years+ who'll probably be dead in a few years anyway and among whom many have completely out-of-touch and antiquated views of the world, but that's another point entirely. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2019 17:09:51 GMT
1. National debt has more than doubled under the Tories. 2. so you use the money for them. Spending money on public services increases standard of living and increases spending, improving economy. Austerity does not work. www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/fandd/2016/06/ostry.htm'hey ho' isn't a reasonable explanation for why some people are born into millions and others can't afford food. And neither is 'the poor ones are lazy' cause it turns out, that is factually not true. Who said the poor were lazy? Here is an explanation for you "life is not fair" get on with it. Oh well we may as well not bother trying to make it more fair then. Would you be saying 'life isn't fair get on with it' if you were made redundant and lost your house? Or if you had an accident and couldn't work? Would you bollocks. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2019 17:10:32 GMT
£300m is nowt? What about the doctors and nurses time that could be seeing legal residents. No wonder you want more money, more money will solve everything when it's somebody else's money. The NHS estimated waste last count was nearly £8 billion a year, that's about 6% of it's budget, how many extra nurses could be employed for that and existing ones given a pay rise ? How do you eliminate waste? It'd be my money too, that's how tax works. |
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 29, 2019 17:11:36 GMT
British citizens, or any European citizen for that matter, living in anyother European country don't get to vote in their national elections, so why should we allow it? Likewise if you need the votes of children to get you into power it's perhaps a sign that you should ditch your juvenile fantasies in favour of some grown-up policies. I'd support giving 16-17 year olds the right to vote over those 80-85 years+ who'll probably be dead in a few years anyway and among whom many have completely out-of-touch and antiquated views of the world, but that's another point entirely. You're the one who's out of touch with idiotic comments like that |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2019 17:12:21 GMT
It costs the health tourists nowt however:
First off, the £2bn figure being cited on Monday might be a memorable number but it's also rather higher than the government is claiming. The report says:
"We think that this probably in the range £1.5bn to £1.9bn." from the Department of Health not sure if it includes the cost of treating illegal immigrants I would hardly call that nowt.
Well if you read the link, it says about 150-300 million. And I fundamentally disagree with the idea that we shouldn't treat illegal immigrants. |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Oct 29, 2019 17:12:28 GMT
British citizens, or any European citizen for that matter, living in anyother European country don't get to vote in their national elections, so why should we allow it? Likewise if you need the votes of children to get you into power it's perhaps a sign that you should ditch your juvenile fantasies in favour of some grown-up policies. Free unicorns for all sixteen - seventeen year olds and free university education should do it. Quick reminder for the upcoming election. Any Corbyn policy is a unicorn. Any Johnson policy is a Brexit dividend. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2019 17:13:16 GMT
So the Conservatives are all for an election but not if EU citizens or 16-17 year olds are allowed to vote? British citizens, or any European citizen for that matter, living in anyother European country don't get to vote in their national elections, so why should we allow it? Likewise if you need the votes of children to get you into power it's perhaps a sign that you should ditch your juvenile fantasies in favour of some grown-up policies. 16 Year olds pay tax the same as you, so why shouldn't they vote? |
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Post by GrahamHyde on Oct 29, 2019 17:13:44 GMT
£300m is nowt? What about the doctors and nurses time that could be seeing legal residents. No wonder you want more money, more money will solve everything when it's somebody else's money. The NHS estimated waste last count was nearly £8 billion a year, that's about 6% of it's budget, how many extra nurses could be employed for that and existing ones given a pay rise ? How do you eliminate waste? It'd be my money too, that's how tax works. Also, I wonder how much money has been wasted on three elections in the last four years, particularly given that two of them were completely of the government's making. Not to mention the money paid to the DUP to get them on-side. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 29, 2019 17:14:08 GMT
Does anybody know why the deputy speaker is choosing which amendments get chosen, rather than Bercow?
Cheers
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Oct 29, 2019 17:14:14 GMT
£300m is nowt? What about the doctors and nurses time that could be seeing legal residents. No wonder you want more money, more money will solve everything when it's somebody else's money. The NHS estimated waste last count was nearly £8 billion a year, that's about 6% of it's budget, how many extra nurses could be employed for that and existing ones given a pay rise ? 6% waste for a 'company' that size doesn't seem that bad to be honest. I'd bet there are many, many organisations that waste far more. I was expecting for more than 6%. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2019 17:14:14 GMT
Free unicorns for all sixteen - seventeen year olds and free university education should do it. Quick reminder for the upcoming election. Any Corbyn policy is a unicorn. Any Johnson policy is a Brexit dividend. For some reason we now look at good policies and say 'no way, can't be real, unicorn, naive bastards' rather than actually looking into it. |
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 29, 2019 17:14:20 GMT
£300m is nowt? What about the doctors and nurses time that could be seeing legal residents. No wonder you want more money, more money will solve everything when it's somebody else's money. The NHS estimated waste last count was nearly £8 billion a year, that's about 6% of it's budget, how many extra nurses could be employed for that and existing ones given a pay rise ? You really have to question how he became a teacher or maybe not wasn't Huddy a teacher once upon a time, frightening thought these individuals are teaching our kids, any way surely this money could be used to improve our customs department to stop these freeloader's getting into our country to start with. |
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 29, 2019 17:17:11 GMT
British citizens, or any European citizen for that matter, living in anyother European country don't get to vote in their national elections, so why should we allow it? Likewise if you need the votes of children to get you into power it's perhaps a sign that you should ditch your juvenile fantasies in favour of some grown-up policies. 16 Year olds pay tax the same as you, so why shouldn't they vote? But illegal immigrants who don't pay a penny in to the system should be treated free by our NHS  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2019 17:17:12 GMT
Free unicorns for all sixteen - seventeen year olds and free university education should do it. Quick reminder for the upcoming election. Any Corbyn policy is a unicorn. Any Johnson policy is a Brexit dividend. Any grown adult still peddling this unicorn crap should be stripped of the vote in fairness...... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2019 17:19:02 GMT
Does anybody know why the deputy speaker is choosing which amendments get chosen, rather than Bercow? Cheers I'm sure it said Lindsay Hoyle on the news earlier...... |
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Post by GrahamHyde on Oct 29, 2019 17:20:22 GMT
16 Year olds pay tax the same as you, so why shouldn't they vote? But illegal immigrants who don't pay a penny in to the system should be treated free by our NHS What would your alternative be? |
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