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Post by essexstokey on Nov 25, 2019 9:06:32 GMT
they say no political bias on the bbc the conservatives have been panned by all for untrue claims in there manifesto bbc's response no mention ! ITV response put the points to nicky morgan and put her to task on them
you cant trust the tories get them out on dec 12
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2019 9:13:51 GMT
Last day to register to vote guys, whatever your politics get it done......
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Post by serpico on Nov 25, 2019 9:21:25 GMT
they say no political bias on the bbc the conservatives have been panned by all for untrue claims in there manifesto bbc's response no mention ! ITV response put the points to nicky morgan and put her to task on them you cant trust the tories get them out on dec 12 i hope esther mcvey gets them out at some point during this election  |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 25, 2019 9:24:43 GMT
Lat day to register to vote guys, whatever your politics get it done...... Lat day, mate. Pull ups or rows? 😜 |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2019 9:27:12 GMT
Lat day to register to vote guys, whatever your politics get it done...... Lat day, mate. Pull ups or rows? 😜 Both mate. Grrrrrrrr.....................  |
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Post by bathstoke on Nov 25, 2019 9:34:17 GMT
they say no political bias on the bbc the conservatives have been panned by all for untrue claims in there manifesto bbc's response no mention ! ITV response put the points to nicky morgan and put her to task on them you cant trust the tories get them out on dec 12 i hope esther mcvey gets them out at some point during this election Boyish hips! |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 25, 2019 9:42:57 GMT
Labour's manifesto might have more credibility if it firstly showed some prudence in cost cutting measures, secondly tackled Electoral reform and thirdly was sensible on Brexit. They could have done worse than copying some of the BREXIT contract.... Cancel HS2 Halve the overseas aid budget Abolish the House of Lords ( and mean it) Reform the voting system. In my opinion without the last two we are going to see a Tory government for 10 years and the possible demise of the Labour party .... period of reflection and starting again for them. My prediction at the moment is a sizeable majority for the Tories...... without electoral reform I'm not sure that we will see a Labour government again .. that might suit some of their MPs who seem to revel in moaning from the side particularly attacking the character or past of the MPs themselves..... it's nice to have the moral high ground. 16 days to go, I don't think things will change radically before the election What reform do BP propose to the voting system? I had missed that in the reporting of their manifesto. |
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 25, 2019 9:45:30 GMT
This did actually make me laugh
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Post by serpico on Nov 25, 2019 9:49:30 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 25, 2019 9:54:45 GMT
Wow. That's a mind boggling statistic. So only 6% of British companies trade with the EU.?? It's clearly a bullshit statistic. Use the ftse 500 as a sample and I would imagine ALL of them do business with the EU. You got me the FTSE 500 do all trade probably trade in Europe however I think you will find there are more than 8,333 businesses in the uk so its not quite the zinger you think. www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36029211There really is no end of things that you can pronounce expertly on despite being completely wrong, a quick google in future might save you some embarrassment mate. |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Nov 25, 2019 10:05:47 GMT
Labour's manifesto might have more credibility if it firstly showed some prudence in cost cutting measures, secondly tackled Electoral reform and thirdly was sensible on Brexit. They could have done worse than copying some of the BREXIT contract.... Cancel HS2 Halve the overseas aid budget Abolish the House of Lords ( and mean it) Reform the voting system. In my opinion without the last two we are going to see a Tory government for 10 years and the possible demise of the Labour party .... period of reflection and starting again for them. My prediction at the moment is a sizeable majority for the Tories...... without electoral reform I'm not sure that we will see a Labour government again .. that might suit some of their MPs who seem to revel in moaning from the side particularly attacking the character or past of the MPs themselves..... it's nice to have the moral high ground. 16 days to go, I don't think things will change radically before the election What reform do BP propose to the voting system? I had missed that in the reporting of their manifesto. Replacing FPTP with a form of proportional. My hunch after the calibre of party politicians put before us at this election and reflecting upon the last three years people will be resigned to staying safe with the Tories ( fear backfiring) and Labour will never again get in without electoral reform. This should have been at the heart of Labour's manifesto alongside of course a clean BREXIT.... which in itself is a form of democratic reform. Instead Labour are coming over as the reckless party who believe in throwing money at everything..... that's irrespective of whether you feel that " we" can afford it and years of austerity need reversing. In my opinion. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2019 10:13:43 GMT
Seems quite a few liberals are turning to boris this ge
So scared are they of a socialist in No10
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 25, 2019 10:19:52 GMT
What reform do BP propose to the voting system? I had missed that in the reporting of their manifesto. Replacing FPTP with a form of proportional. My hunch after the calibre of party politicians put before us at this election and reflecting upon the last three years people will be resigned to staying safe with the Tories ( fear backfiring) and Labour will never again get in without electoral reform. This should have been at the heart of Labour's manifesto alongside of course a clean BREXIT.... which in itself is a form of democratic reform. Instead Labour are coming over as the reckless party who believe in throwing money at everything..... that's irrespective of whether you feel that " we" can afford it and years of austerity need reversing. In my opinion. The £58 billion for waspi women 3 days after their manifesto launch smacks of desperation plus with Labour committed to self ID it could presumably be £116 billion nothing to stop men of a similar age just identifying as woman to claim the £15k. |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Nov 25, 2019 10:24:05 GMT
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Nov 25, 2019 10:27:38 GMT
Replacing FPTP with a form of proportional. My hunch after the calibre of party politicians put before us at this election and reflecting upon the last three years people will be resigned to staying safe with the Tories ( fear backfiring) and Labour will never again get in without electoral reform. This should have been at the heart of Labour's manifesto alongside of course a clean BREXIT.... which in itself is a form of democratic reform. Instead Labour are coming over as the reckless party who believe in throwing money at everything..... that's irrespective of whether you feel that " we" can afford it and years of austerity need reversing. In my opinion. The £58 billion for waspi women 3 days after their manifesto launch smacks of desperation plus with Labour committed to self ID it could presumably be £116 billion nothing to stop men of a similar age just identifying as woman to claim the £15k. Or men taking Corbyn's Government to court for discrimination against their claim for a back dated pension based on their gender. |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Nov 25, 2019 10:43:15 GMT
Labour's manifesto might have more credibility if it firstly showed some prudence in cost cutting measures, secondly tackled Electoral reform and thirdly was sensible on Brexit. They could have done worse than copying some of the BREXIT contract.... Cancel HS2 Halve the overseas aid budget Abolish the House of Lords ( and mean it) Reform the voting system. In my opinion without the last two we are going to see a Tory government for 10 years and the possible demise of the Labour party .... period of reflection and starting again for them. My prediction at the moment is a sizeable majority for the Tories...... without electoral reform I'm not sure that we will see a Labour government again .. that might suit some of their MPs who seem to revel in moaning from the side particularly attacking the character or past of the MPs themselves..... it's nice to have the moral high ground. 16 days to go, I don't think things will change radically before the election What reform do BP propose to the voting system? I had missed that in the reporting of their manifesto. Seems pretty sensible to me www.itv.com/news/2019-11-22/the-brexit-partys-contract-at-a-glance/ |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 25, 2019 10:57:00 GMT
Looking at the manifesto, all I can see if this about voting reform: "Reform the voting system to make it more representative." Is there more information available - like how proportional voting might work? |
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Post by serpico on Nov 25, 2019 10:59:32 GMT
ironic that a lot of remainers who said leaving the EU would cause businesses and capital to move out of the country will now go and vote for Labour at this election. I've always said we'll live and die by our domestic policies when we leave the EU, if we have a corbyn type government there will be virtually no incentive to invest here, which in the end means less money for things like the NHS and other government programs, corbyn needs a thriving private sector to pay for all his big ideas but he'll crush it instead and once the money runs out what does he have left ? just power, thats when things turn ugly and potentially tyrannical. |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Nov 25, 2019 11:05:24 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 25, 2019 11:38:00 GMT
Lying surprised Essex isnt all over this, here is mcdonnell telling an interviewer you didnt hear me saying what I just said lol |
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Post by salopstick on Nov 25, 2019 11:42:08 GMT
Scrapping 25% discount council tax for singles. |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Nov 25, 2019 11:53:33 GMT
Scrapping 25% discount council tax for singles. Apparently a Labour spokesperson refused to comment on the 'specifics' of their proposed "Progressive Property Tax". Who decides what "large" is? |
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Post by salopstick on Nov 25, 2019 11:57:10 GMT
Scrapping 25% discount council tax for singles. Apparently a Labour spokesperson refused to comment on the 'specifics' of their proposed "Progressive Property Tax". Who decides what "large" is? Loads of big announcements about taxing big industry The people get theirs hidden in fine print |
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Post by salopstick on Nov 25, 2019 11:59:25 GMT
Lying surprised Essex isnt all over this, here is mcdonnell telling an interviewer you didnt hear me saying what I just said lol All politicians lie. Manifestos are not worth the paper they are written on. The opposition have to be better. But they are not. |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Nov 25, 2019 12:06:46 GMT
Looking at the manifesto, all I can see if this about voting reform: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48847542"Reform the voting system to make it more representative." Is there more information available - like how proportional voting might work? i've heard Farage say it several times. He believes in democracy. One reference is here www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48847542but I'm sure others can be found via google |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Nov 25, 2019 12:23:00 GMT
I don't think that they will get any seats in the two party cartel ( supported by the medi) but I think that it is worth posting the Brexit party CONTRACT.........It does dispel some rumours/ incorrect publicity on the NHS for example. The party decided to use the word " contract".........it would frighten the daylights out of the establishment because Farage would actually deliver on things like abolishing the House of Lords......I would have thought that this would be a bit of a priority for socialists and would generate some money. www.thebrexitparty.org/contract/#contract-top• The NHS must remain a publicly-owned, comprehensive service that is free at the point of use. Your postcode should not determine your care or health. • There should be no privatisation of the NHS; where existing private initiatives have failed to deliver we will return them to public ownership. • We support investment in medical research and development and will stop the taxpayer being ripped off by pharmaceutical companies. • Abolish all politically imposed hospital targets that distort clinical priorities. • Re-open the nursing and midwifery professions to recruitment without the degree requirement, alongside a new nursing qualification in social care. • Introduce 24-hour GP surgeries to relieve the strain in A&E departments. • Have a national debate on our NHS, involving the public alongside MPs, doctors and experts. We should discuss ring-fencing the NHS budget and the tax revenues that pay for it. |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 25, 2019 12:29:09 GMT
How much will the Labour policy on the WASPI women impact on the election?
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Nov 25, 2019 12:39:08 GMT
Worth a read in my opinion. Given the way that Labour has gone under Corbyn, electoral reform is the only way back for those at the bottom of society ( who Labour want us to believe that they represent) Besides which it is simply fairer.............there's always been that tension in British politics between electing a local person as your representative and voting for a party/ with the position of Prime Minister www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/02/nigel-farage-electoral-reform-left-first-past-the-post-proportional-representationThe Electoral Reform Society (ERS) has described the 2015 general election as “the most disproportionate in electoral history”. Three out of four votes cast were “wasted” while the majority of MPs were elected with fewer than 50% of the votes cast in their constituencies. The SDLP won the Belfast South constituency with a mere 24.5% of the vote – the lowest winning vote share since records began, according to the ERS. |
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 25, 2019 12:58:53 GMT
££££££sss Labour figures over 150% out
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Nov 25, 2019 13:01:47 GMT
I'm a little confused with this. Even if you ignore the fact that an ex-Labour PM doesn't want Labour togain a majority, isn't Corbo offering a 2nd ref? Isn't that what Blair wants??
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