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Post by dirtclod on Oct 8, 2021 1:37:24 GMT
This guy can't go get a job - what the hell are we supposed to do without our "Sol Campbell Alerts?!!!" ffs.
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Post by pottersrule on Oct 8, 2021 9:02:45 GMT
None of the three you mentioned have done bad jobs to be fair. That’s true, not catastrophic anyway. Lampard got sacked at Chelsea, Gerrard is managing to do a good job in a poor league, but good job nonetheless, and Rooney has kept Derby steady ish. I get the guy tweeting is by all accounts not a good manager, and I can see Sol Campbells point about his experiences in management compared to those I listed, the glaring difference being race, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that’s why he hasn’t had as high profile job as them. Maybe that is why, but without knowing the inner workings of all the clubs I certainly couldn’t say with any confidence that his skin colour has any bearing. Sol Campbell has been highlighting the race issue for young black managers for many years,and I'm not qualified to say if there is any merit in what he is saying. I am sure racism exists at every level of football to varying degrees, however if Campbell had been an unmitigated success in his previous jobs I'm sure he would have walked into a job by now.Darren Moore never seems to have a problem getting jobs.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2021 9:15:26 GMT
That’s true, not catastrophic anyway. Lampard got sacked at Chelsea, Gerrard is managing to do a good job in a poor league, but good job nonetheless, and Rooney has kept Derby steady ish. I get the guy tweeting is by all accounts not a good manager, and I can see Sol Campbells point about his experiences in management compared to those I listed, the glaring difference being race, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that’s why he hasn’t had as high profile job as them. Maybe that is why, but without knowing the inner workings of all the clubs I certainly couldn’t say with any confidence that his skin colour has any bearing. Sol Campbell has been highlighting the race issue for young black managers for many years,and I'm not qualified to say if there is any merit in what he is saying. I am sure racism exists at every level of football to varying degrees, however if Campbell had been an unmitigated success in his previous jobs I'm sure he would have walked into a job by now.Darren Moore never seems to have a problem getting jobs. Agreed. Racism in football doesn't exist these days in this country to the point where Sol Campbell isn't getting managerial jobs because of the colour of his skin. Cue people saying what do you know, but I genuinely believe that is true. I reckon there's a good chance that owners have steered clear of hiring him because he hasn't particularly shown himself to be a good manager and he also comes across as a massive throbber.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 8, 2021 10:30:59 GMT
He should try women's nogger,are there any women's teams who would employ him?
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Post by lordb on Oct 8, 2021 11:05:13 GMT
Sol Campbell has been highlighting the race issue for young black managers for many years,and I'm not qualified to say if there is any merit in what he is saying. I am sure racism exists at every level of football to varying degrees, however if Campbell had been an unmitigated success in his previous jobs I'm sure he would have walked into a job by now.Darren Moore never seems to have a problem getting jobs. Agreed. Racism in football doesn't exist these days in this country to the point where Sol Campbell isn't getting managerial jobs because of the colour of his skin. Cue people saying what do you know, but I genuinely believe that is true. I reckon there's a good chance that owners have steered clear of hiring him because he hasn't particularly shown himself to be a good manager and he also comes across as a massive throbber. 'Racism in football doesn't exist these days in this country to the point where Sol Campbell isn't getting managerial jobs because of the colour of his skin' I think in the main Campbell isn't getting jobs because as you say he's a massive throbber however to say certain clubs don't employ managers because of the colour of their skin is naive
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Post by hcstokie on Oct 8, 2021 11:45:31 GMT
You would hope that the colour of his skin doesn’t play an issue but who knows for sure. It would seem strange that we’ve had a large number of foreign managers employed throughout the leagues, so ethnicity isn’t necessarily a barrier towards getting a job, but skin colour may be.
For me, I think that his personality may be more of an off putting factor for potential employers as he comes across as arrogant and entitled. I know nothing about football management but I’ve carried out hundreds of interviews and that would rub me up the wrong way. I guess it depends on each chairman too, but some humility might help.
If, of course, his skin colour is the only reason why he doesn’t get a job then that’s reprehensible, but I suspect that there’s no way to prove that without having a transparent, externally audited manager recruitment system.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Oct 8, 2021 11:52:05 GMT
Agreed. Racism in football doesn't exist these days in this country to the point where Sol Campbell isn't getting managerial jobs because of the colour of his skin. Cue people saying what do you know, but I genuinely believe that is true. I reckon there's a good chance that owners have steered clear of hiring him because he hasn't particularly shown himself to be a good manager and he also comes across as a massive throbber. 'Racism in football doesn't exist these days in this country to the point where Sol Campbell isn't getting managerial jobs because of the colour of his skin' I think in the main Campbell isn't getting jobs because as you say he's a massive throbber however to say certain clubs don't employ managers because of the colour of their skin is naive I'd be very surprised if there were certain clubs in this country who didn't hire a manager because of his skin colour... VERY surprised!!! If there's not enough black managers, it simply down to there not enough bothering to be a manager.... And as for Sol Campbell, he's never helped his cause, he seems to use racism as an excuse for everything, so maybe clubs are worried about approaching him, because of the backlash that'll come if or when he's sacked!!!
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Post by dutchstokie on Oct 8, 2021 13:11:01 GMT
He should try women's nogger,are there any women's teams who would employ him? Has he tried Boslem yet ?
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Post by holdmedelilah on Oct 8, 2021 13:14:54 GMT
He should try women's nogger,are there any women's teams who would employ him? I don’t especially like the guy when I’ve seen interviews…but shit I wouldn’t wish that on him.
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Post by lordb on Oct 8, 2021 13:50:45 GMT
'Racism in football doesn't exist these days in this country to the point where Sol Campbell isn't getting managerial jobs because of the colour of his skin' I think in the main Campbell isn't getting jobs because as you say he's a massive throbber however to say certain clubs don't employ managers because of the colour of their skin is naive I'd be very surprised if there were certain clubs in this country who didn't hire a manager because of his skin colour... VERY surprised!!! If there's not enough black managers, it simply down to there not enough bothering to be a manager.... And as for Sol Campbell, he's never helped his cause, he seems to use racism as an excuse for everything, so maybe clubs are worried about approaching him, because of the backlash that'll come if or when he's sacked!!! You'd really be very surprised?
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Post by a on Oct 8, 2021 16:15:38 GMT
That’s true, not catastrophic anyway. Lampard got sacked at Chelsea, Gerrard is managing to do a good job in a poor league, but good job nonetheless, and Rooney has kept Derby steady ish. I get the guy tweeting is by all accounts not a good manager, and I can see Sol Campbells point about his experiences in management compared to those I listed, the glaring difference being race, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that’s why he hasn’t had as high profile job as them. Maybe that is why, but without knowing the inner workings of all the clubs I certainly couldn’t say with any confidence that his skin colour has any bearing. Sol Campbell has been highlighting the race issue for young black managers for many years,and I'm not qualified to say if there is any merit in what he is saying. I am sure racism exists at every level of football to varying degrees, however if Campbell had been an unmitigated success in his previous jobs I'm sure he would have walked into a job by now.Darren Moore never seems to have a problem getting jobs. Of course it is a big case of perspective too as you allude to in your post. It must be terrible to think you’re at a disadvantage for being black, even if in reality you’re not (I don’t know if black managers are or not). Chris Hughton is an excellent manager in my opinion and he will likely never be out of work for long unless it’s his decision, which is how it should be for any decent manager.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2021 21:04:09 GMT
I'd be very surprised if there were certain clubs in this country who didn't hire a manager because of his skin colour... VERY surprised!!! If there's not enough black managers, it simply down to there not enough bothering to be a manager.... And as for Sol Campbell, he's never helped his cause, he seems to use racism as an excuse for everything, so maybe clubs are worried about approaching him, because of the backlash that'll come if or when he's sacked!!! You'd really be very surprised? Yes, I would as well.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2021 21:27:18 GMT
Agreed. Racism in football doesn't exist these days in this country to the point where Sol Campbell isn't getting managerial jobs because of the colour of his skin. Cue people saying what do you know, but I genuinely believe that is true. I reckon there's a good chance that owners have steered clear of hiring him because he hasn't particularly shown himself to be a good manager and he also comes across as a massive throbber. 'Racism in football doesn't exist these days in this country to the point where Sol Campbell isn't getting managerial jobs because of the colour of his skin' I think in the main Campbell isn't getting jobs because as you say he's a massive throbber however to say certain clubs don't employ managers because of the colour of their skin is naive Massive Throbber is the insult of the season for me.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Oct 9, 2021 12:35:13 GMT
I'd be very surprised if there were certain clubs in this country who didn't hire a manager because of his skin colour... VERY surprised!!! If there's not enough black managers, it simply down to there not enough bothering to be a manager.... And as for Sol Campbell, he's never helped his cause, he seems to use racism as an excuse for everything, so maybe clubs are worried about approaching him, because of the backlash that'll come if or when he's sacked!!! You'd really be very surprised? Yeah, very!!! I couldn't think of any chairman at any club in this country refusing a manager because of his skin colour!!! Not unless you can tell me different Lord??? 🤔
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Post by potterburt on Oct 9, 2021 13:19:01 GMT
That’s quite a damming opinion from Cox on Sols’ management. And That’s from a player who has been coached by the likes of “Steve”Coppell, Clarke, Cotterill, Stu Pearce and Jaap Stam
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 2, 2023 23:29:46 GMT
Says he deserves an honour
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 2, 2023 23:33:15 GMT
Tbf I thought he’d have an OBE or CBE or something.
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Post by a on Jan 2, 2023 23:40:12 GMT
Sounds sad and desperate.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2023 0:11:59 GMT
I just checked his Wikipedia and above his portrait someone has edited in “Judas”.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 3, 2023 0:43:25 GMT
Blimey, I opened this thread expecting to find some nutter putting Campbell's name forward to be our next manager! 🤭
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 3, 2023 2:58:43 GMT
Says he deserves an honour Has had an exceptional career, though should a career in football be enough? I don’t think so, unless that happens to coincide with a) national trophies, and/or b) charities/actionable change causes.
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Post by willieeetmiout on Jan 3, 2023 11:32:04 GMT
Says he deserves an honour Has had an exceptional career, though should a career in football be enough? I don’t think so, unless that happens to coincide with a) national trophies, and/or b) charities/actionable change causes. Have a look at footballers who have a OBE or MBE and then repost.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 3, 2023 11:43:56 GMT
Has had an exceptional career, though should a career in football be enough? I don’t think so, unless that happens to coincide with a) national trophies, and/or b) charities/actionable change causes. Have a look at footballers who have a OBE or MBE and then repost. Just because there are plenty that get one purely because it football, it doesn’t mean I agree with it.
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Post by cheadlepotter on Jan 3, 2023 11:50:29 GMT
Has had an exceptional career, though should a career in football be enough? I don’t think so, unless that happens to coincide with a) national trophies, and/or b) charities/actionable change causes. Have a look at footballers who have a OBE or MBE and then repost. Have a look at the woman who had a couple of good weeks of tennis and got one. Not that I agree with Campbell getting one, the whole system is a joke, but if she does then any half decent sportsperson does.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 3, 2023 18:00:32 GMT
Arrogant prick. A legend in his own mind only
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 3, 2023 18:45:27 GMT
Says he deserves an honour You know, that really is embarrassing! Sad man.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jan 4, 2023 12:35:56 GMT
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Post by march4 on Jan 4, 2023 12:41:30 GMT
I don’t think people should receive honours for simply doing a job they are paid for. That includes politicians and senior civil servants. The honours should be for those unsung heroes who do lots for charity or voluntary work. If Sol qualifies for the latter then fair enough he should be honoured but he will be well behind Lou in the queue. I would also suggest Tony Pulis should be honoured for his efforts raising money for Donna Louise.
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Post by shrewspotter on Jan 4, 2023 12:47:33 GMT
Cant read it unless i pay
But im sure ive seen it before anyway. In fairness he has a point and there have been far less worthy recipients (Phillip Green no less), but I also dont think its right that you should go around asking for the gong or expecting
Maybe its me getting older but I think the MBE, CBE, Knighthood system needs looking at, for me I agree with March and it should be people that do a lot for charity not some copper or civil servant
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