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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 19:35:52 GMT
What did he say that alluded to this? I can't recall anything I wrote it out a couple of pages back in more detail. None of it said anything about being off the pitch. He couldn’t give a reason which related to anything on the pitch but that doesn’t therefore mean it was something off the pitch. He couldn’t give an answer. |
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Post by stokeykez on Jul 29, 2019 19:36:36 GMT
What the fuck am I reading on here. I listened to the interview and he answered everything. Why the hell are people reading inbetween the lines like a 3-2-1 clue? Bloody hell, the season hasn't started and we're not just second guessing but 8th guessing on stuff and moaning about every answer. Nit picking negative doomsayers, if we had Man City's squad the fuckers would still moan. Season cannot come quick enough, psychology experts who can interpret the mans every word. Ffs he probably reads the shit spouted on this board and that's why nathan seems a little bored and tedious with it all. Come on nathan, prove the doubters wrong, given the financial fuckball that our club has evolved into through 5 years of dreadful financial management regarding players contracts and personnel he is trying to weed out the leeches from this club. We cannot go out and throw 10million at a left back that has come from a promoted squad, clearly wont play many games. Hes working g wonders with what hes got and best of all I think hes leant on Peter to fuck fatty off down the line. Get behind the club folks, it wont be us who get sacked if it's not working out will it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 19:38:19 GMT
Nit picking negative doomsayers, if we had Man City's squad the fuckers would still moan. Season cannot come quick enough, psychology experts who can interpret the mans every word. Ffs he probably reads the shit spouted on this board and that's why nathan seems a little bored and tedious with it all. Come on nathan, prove the doubters wrong, given the financial fuckball that our club has evolved into through 5 years of dreadful financial management regarding players contracts and personnel he is trying to weed out the leeches from this club. We cannot go out and throw 10million at a left back that has come from a promoted squad, clearly wont play many games. Hes working g wonders with what hes got and best of all I think hes leant on Peter to fuck fatty off down the line. Get behind the club folks, it wont be us who get sacked if it's not working out will it. No we’ll just have to sit there and be fucking bored out of our brains for another season and have paid for the privilege while he’ll go away a rich man! 😂 I do hope he proves everyone including me wrong. |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jul 29, 2019 19:42:18 GMT
"Only one target, Promotion" Christ, talk about loading a gun in front of your balls!  |
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Post by stokienorthants on Jul 29, 2019 19:48:01 GMT
"Only one target, Promotion" Christ, talk about loading a gun in front of your balls! He must be confident Or doesn’t have any balls! |
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 29, 2019 19:58:13 GMT
I wrote it out a couple of pages back in more detail. None of it said anything about being off the pitch. He couldn’t give a reason which related to anything on the pitch but that doesn’t therefore mean it was something off the pitch. He couldn’t give an answer. I think that you need to read between the lines with what he was getting at when you're saying he didn't have an answer. The interview totally missed the point when Jones asked how long Bojan had been playing at his peak and started talking about when Bojan had been playing at his peak, turning it completely on its head. He then tried to nudge the interviewer in the right direction without betraying any confidences, which was the right thing to do, but the interviewer kept going on about him being good before he got injured. That again, missed the point by focusing on when and now for how long. Jones was saying that he doesn't know precisely when Bojan was at his best because he wasn't here, and it wasn't the point he was making. To put it another way, Jones tried to allude to Bojan's, and the interviewer didn't understand what he was getting at and started asking if he thought that Bojan's best form was before he got injured, which he would obviously have no answer for. Why would he know about when, exactly, Bojan was at his peak for us? It had nothing to do with the point that he was making. To be honest, I don't think that we're going to agree on this, but I think that it has been laid out as clearly as it could be. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 19:58:36 GMT
He didn’t extend his gaze very far so, surely he could have come up with better than Ward (a solid pro) and Jimmy Mc (another solid pro) both of whom seem seriously underwhelming Yeah it’s very odd but very Stoke. There was a left back in the world other than Stephen Ward that would do. People buy it though. Fucks me off to high heaven. Maybe people are just sucking it up, instead of blarting, pissing, moaning and just being negative all the bastard time? There's a hard-core of people on here who have hardly ever got anything positive to state. They revel in it. Ffs, someone said there other day on here that this board should be wrapped up along with the fanzine. 5 years ago, I'd have said they were mental. 10 years ago it was an institution. Now, I can see where they were coming from. God forbid our manager, players, or staff read this board. Fucking hell. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 20:01:12 GMT
Where do you think we'll finish if we don't manage to bring anyone else in? Floating around the edges of the play offs, maybe sneaking in with the help of a stiff breeze.. but, can anyone say with any real certainty where we or anyone else will finish in this league? That just isn't good enough. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 20:06:40 GMT
None of it said anything about being off the pitch. He couldn’t give a reason which related to anything on the pitch but that doesn’t therefore mean it was something off the pitch. He couldn’t give an answer. I think that you need to read between the lines with what he was getting at when you're saying he didn't have an answer. The interview totally missed the point when Jones asked how long Bojan had been playing at his peak and started talking about when Bojan had been playing at his peak, turning it completely on its head. He then tried to nudge the interviewer in the right direction without betraying any confidences, which was the right thing to do, but the interviewer kept going on about him being good before he got injured. That again, missed the point by focusing on when and now for how long. Jones was saying that he doesn't know precisely when Bojan was at his best because he wasn't here, and it wasn't the point he was making. To put it another way, Jones tried to allude to Bojan's, and the interviewer didn't understand what he was getting at and started asking if he thought that Bojan's best form was before he got injured, which he would obviously have no answer for. Why would he know about when, exactly, Bojan was at his peak for us? It had nothing to do with the point that he was making. To be honest, I don't think that we're going to agree on this, but I think that it has been laid out as clearly as it could be. We’re not going to agree but that’s ok. I do appreciate what your saying but for me the “maybe I should have given more...ummm maybe things could have been different” was him about to say more minutes/games. I felt like he couldn’t answer because he hadn’t given him a chance and he knew it. It can be interpreted differently and I guess we’ll never really know as the question wasn’t answered. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2019 20:06:45 GMT
Yeah it’s very odd but very Stoke. There was a left back in the world other than Stephen Ward that would do. People buy it though. Fucks me off to high heaven. Maybe people are just sucking it up, instead of blarting, pissing, moaning and just being negative all the bastard time? There's a hard-core of people on here who have hardly ever got anything positive to state. They revel in it. Ffs, someone said there other day on here that this board should be wrapped up along with the fanzine. 5 years ago, I'd have said they were mental. 10 years ago it was an institution. Now, I can see where they were coming from. God forbid our manager, players, or staff read this board. Fucking hell. You’re actually buying we can’t find a left back in the whole of the footballing world? Jesus Christ |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 20:15:47 GMT
Maybe people are just sucking it up, instead of blarting, pissing, moaning and just being negative all the bastard time? There's a hard-core of people on here who have hardly ever got anything positive to state. They revel in it. Ffs, someone said there other day on here that this board should be wrapped up along with the fanzine. 5 years ago, I'd have said they were mental. 10 years ago it was an institution. Now, I can see where they were coming from. God forbid our manager, players, or staff read this board. Fucking hell. You’re actually buying we can’t find a left back in the whole of the footballing world? Jesus Christ No, I'm buying the fact that the manager thinks we're OK there. He tried for one, and missed out to a PL club didn't he? And that's not the whole point I'm making. We could have signed a better keeper than Davies. We could have signed a better CH than Lindsay. We could have signed a better CDM than Cousins. We didn't 'need' Tommy Smith. We didn't 'need' Lee Gregory. Need I go on? |
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 29, 2019 20:17:00 GMT
Nit picking negative doomsayers, if we had Man City's squad the fuckers would still moan. Season cannot come quick enough, psychology experts who can interpret the mans every word. Ffs he probably reads the shit spouted on this board and that's why nathan seems a little bored and tedious with it all. Come on nathan, prove the doubters wrong, given the financial fuckball that our club has evolved into through 5 years of dreadful financial management regarding players contracts and personnel he is trying to weed out the leeches from this club. We cannot go out and throw 10million at a left back that has come from a promoted squad, clearly wont play many games. Hes working g wonders with what hes got and best of all I think hes leant on Peter to fuck fatty off down the line. Get behind the club folks, it wont be us who get sacked if it's not working out will it. I think we have some of the most ungrateful "fans" in the world. I enjoy a moan with the best but Jesus it's like a never ending story of know it all's and expert analysts. |
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Post by southcoaststokie on Jul 29, 2019 20:19:16 GMT
Maybe people are just sucking it up, instead of blarting, pissing, moaning and just being negative all the bastard time? There's a hard-core of people on here who have hardly ever got anything positive to state. They revel in it. Ffs, someone said there other day on here that this board should be wrapped up along with the fanzine. 5 years ago, I'd have said they were mental. 10 years ago it was an institution. Now, I can see where they were coming from. God forbid our manager, players, or staff read this board. Fucking hell. You’re actually buying we can’t find a left back in the whole of the footballing world? Jesus Christ It's not football manager though is it, where you scroll down the list of LBs and pick one, you have to find a player that fits into your system, a player that wants to come, a player with the right attitude, a player you can afford, I think Stoke tried to bring in a quality LB, but maybe it's better to try and convert a decent player into your system, than just buy any old LB , with no due diligence, maybe that's the process that is changing. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 20:19:22 GMT
Season cannot come quick enough, psychology experts who can interpret the mans every word. Ffs he probably reads the shit spouted on this board and that's why nathan seems a little bored and tedious with it all. Come on nathan, prove the doubters wrong, given the financial fuckball that our club has evolved into through 5 years of dreadful financial management regarding players contracts and personnel he is trying to weed out the leeches from this club. We cannot go out and throw 10million at a left back that has come from a promoted squad, clearly wont play many games. Hes working g wonders with what hes got and best of all I think hes leant on Peter to fuck fatty off down the line. Get behind the club folks, it wont be us who get sacked if it's not working out will it. I think we have some of the most ungrateful "fans" in the world. I enjoy a moan with the best but Jesus it's like a never ending story of know it all's and expert analysts. Like you banging on about Tommy Smith you mean? |
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Post by thehoof on Jul 29, 2019 20:22:19 GMT
Over a 46 game season there will be some poor performances, there will be some average and some very good. Even poor and average performances can yield wins if there is a team Ethic and a desire to get something out of nothing.
After the past two years, I am sure this year will be an improvement- how much we won’t know until the end of the season.
Let’s buckle in and see what happens.
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Post by Batfink on Jul 29, 2019 20:24:12 GMT
Maybe people are just sucking it up, instead of blarting, pissing, moaning and just being negative all the bastard time? There's a hard-core of people on here who have hardly ever got anything positive to state. They revel in it. Ffs, someone said there other day on here that this board should be wrapped up along with the fanzine. 5 years ago, I'd have said they were mental. 10 years ago it was an institution. Now, I can see where they were coming from. God forbid our manager, players, or staff read this board. Fucking hell. You’re actually buying we can’t find a left back in the whole of the footballing world? Jesus Christ One that he thinks (he thinks, not you) is a significant improvement on McClean at this exact moment in time, with what we can/ are willing to pay, with an eye on FFP, along with other issues such as character, etc. I personally buy it. Would I have wanted McClean? No. Am I willing at this point to trust his judgement? Until it's proven otherwise, yes. If we are relatively successful this year and Jones is still here next summer, I'm sure we will look to upgrade (unless McClean actually exceeds everyone's, including Jones', expectations this year). |
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 29, 2019 20:33:07 GMT
A lot on here are readily accepting mediocrity and therefore failure. That's fine but you specifically used the word(s) 'want / wants'. Fans might be realistic and they might downtalk what they would accept, but i'm certain 100% of all supporters would WANT promotion and WANT it yesterday. We've had supporters openly say they prefer to be in the Championship. To me that means they do not want promotion. |
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 29, 2019 20:40:26 GMT
I think we have some of the most ungrateful "fans" in the world. I enjoy a moan with the best but Jesus it's like a never ending story of know it all's and expert analysts. Like you banging on about Tommy Smith you mean? What? I was moaning about Smith? I think you're mistaken. |
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Post by lordb on Jul 29, 2019 20:41:51 GMT
Over a 46 game season there will be some poor performances, there will be some average and some very good. Even poor and average performances can yield wins if there is a team Ethic and a desire to get something out of nothing. After the past two years, I am sure this year will be an improvement- how much we won’t know until the end of the season. Let’s buckle in and see what happens. Goalscorer turns average and bad performances into wins. Lack of one turns good performances into draws (&some defeats) as we saw last season. However I agree we will be better but hard to say much better. Gayle is very expensive,which is why no other Championship club has signed him. Potentially that signing would transform our prospects and certainly would transfer the mood in the crowd apart from some of the absolute shits on here. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 20:42:35 GMT
Like you banging on about Tommy Smith you mean? What? I was moaning about Smith? I think you're mistaken. No I meant that you’re an analyst and a know it all when it comes to the right back situation. At least practice what you preach! |
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Post by lordb on Jul 29, 2019 20:44:08 GMT
That's fine but you specifically used the word(s) 'want / wants'. Fans might be realistic and they might downtalk what they would accept, but i'm certain 100% of all supporters would WANT promotion and WANT it yesterday. We've had supporters openly say they prefer to be in the Championship. To me that means they do not want promotion. I prefer some minor side aspect of this league - much less diving, genuinely competitive league,more Saturday 3pm's, more clubs with real fans. Desperate to go up mate doubt very much there's more than a handful who don't. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 29, 2019 20:44:57 GMT
The left back thing is absolutely wild. To suggest that there is nobody out there, in a key position to the system that we’ve known we needed since before Jones came to the club, is just clown shoe, can’t open a tin of beans incompetent.
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 29, 2019 20:46:42 GMT
What? I was moaning about Smith? I think you're mistaken. No you’re an analyst and a know it all when it comes to the right back situation. At least practice what you preach! I did no such thing I stuck up for NJ making a signing and stuck up for best player plays. There's a difference between having a opinion and being unwilling to except points of view. You my friend are out of order and 100% wrong and prove my point. You decide which you are. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 20:49:18 GMT
No you’re an analyst and a know it all when it comes to the right back situation. At least practice what you preach! I did no such thing I stuck up for NJ making a signing and stuck up for best player plays. There's a difference between having a opinion and being unwilling to except points of view. You my friend are out of order and 100% wrong and prove my point. You decide which you are. You’ve basically not entertained any opinion to the contrary on that whole thread! Your “just sticking up for the manager” but it doesn’t mean you’re less of a know it all than anyone you’re taking aim at. |
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Post by kelw on Jul 29, 2019 20:53:04 GMT
Problem is with managers doing interviews, some feel the need to take every single comment and make some sort of issue out it .
We'll have those poised by their keyboards on Saturday desperate for Allen, McClean, Afobe or whoever they can't say a decent thing about waiting for a poor pass or cross so they can get their fill. Sad really that they can't just hope they have a good game rather than told you so etc
I really don't like Dwight Gayle but would love him to score goals for us and put all that aside.
I really do think one or two on here wouldn't mind seeing Jones fail but we had that with Pulis
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Post by Batfink on Jul 29, 2019 20:57:46 GMT
The left back thing is absolutely wild. To suggest that there is nobody out there, in a key position to the system that we’ve known we needed since before Jones came to the club, is just clown shoe, can’t open a tin of beans incompetent. But it's his system and he clearly rates McClean and trusts what he has seen enough to believe that he can do a job; he thinks there is no immediate player that jumps out that he can guarantee is better, that is also currently attainable within our means. A manager lives or dies by his decisions and the results that they bring. Let's give him a chance though. |
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 29, 2019 21:01:32 GMT
I did no such thing I stuck up for NJ making a signing and stuck up for best player plays. There's a difference between having a opinion and being unwilling to except points of view. You my friend are out of order and 100% wrong and prove my point. You decide which you are. You’ve basically not entertained any opinion to the contrary on that whole thread! Your “just sticking up for the manager” but it doesn’t mean you’re less of a know it all than anyone you’re taking aim at. 100% bullshit I was being deliberately provocative to make a point. You chose to interpret that in whatever way you like but you are wrong. Like I said you prove my point. It's ok though you're one of many I take with a pinch of salt and make this place funny. You're defo making an impact not sure what if any credibility you hold but I enjoy reading. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 21:01:47 GMT
The left back thing is absolutely wild. To suggest that there is nobody out there, in a key position to the system that we’ve known we needed since before Jones came to the club, is just clown shoe, can’t open a tin of beans incompetent. But it's his system and he clearly rates McClean and trusts what he has seen enough to believe that he can do a job; he thinks there is no immediate player that jumps out that he can guarantee is better, that is also currently attainable within our means. A manager lives or dies by his decisions and the results that they bring. Let's give him a chance though. I read it as a thinly veiled dig at the senior management and outgoing TD given his comments about how the recruitment works here last season. I read it as he felt McClean was the best choice out of the options presented to him. You can't say we don't have form for this as Hughes went from Cedric Soares to Glen Johnson. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 29, 2019 21:02:29 GMT
The left back thing is absolutely wild. To suggest that there is nobody out there, in a key position to the system that we’ve known we needed since before Jones came to the club, is just clown shoe, can’t open a tin of beans incompetent. But it's his system and he clearly rates McClean and trusts what he has seen enough to believe that he can do a job; he thinks there is no immediate player that jumps out that he can guarantee is better, that is also currently attainable within our means. A manager lives or dies by his decisions and the results that they bring. Let's give him a chance though. I’m totally behind the manager but something has clearly gone wrong if we’re saying that we haven’t, in the ENTIRE WORLD, managed to source a Plan B to James Justin in one of the absolute key positions and are having to make do with a hard working winger in that role instead. It’s not a million miles away from Pulis playing Shotton on the wing, except in reverse. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 21:02:35 GMT
You’ve basically not entertained any opinion to the contrary on that whole thread! Your “just sticking up for the manager” but it doesn’t mean you’re less of a know it all than anyone you’re taking aim at. 100% bullshit I was being deliberately provocative to make a point. You chose to interpret that in whatever way you like but you are wrong. Like I said you prove my point. It's ok though you're one of many I take with a pinch of salt and make this place funny. You're defo making an impact not sure what if any credibility you hold but I enjoy reading. Ah I see sorry you just seemed like a hypocritical arsehole! My bad! Anyway, see you at the statue 👍 |
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