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Post by tomcmod on Jul 29, 2019 18:47:44 GMT
And yet looking back at the Leicester highlights he was probably the most positive, energetic, driving, forceful player we had on the pitch, driving past with ease top quality premier league players. Not bad for a useless wanker. And he was awful for both goals. The left hand side was overrun all game. It was overrun because Allen looked like he didn't want to be there and was positionally inept. The first goal there was him and Allen on 2 players, Mcclean went to one and Allen stood there. By the time Allen had reacted the player was gone and couldn't stop him from putting the ball in. Although it is then poorly defended on the other side. The second is Mccleans fault, he gambled on getting the ball instead of staying with the player. You can see the frustration with himself so he knows it's on him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2019 18:48:09 GMT
I don’t think we needed that. We need quality in key areas. But we did A pulis side had it And a sprinkling of quality You need players who you would be in the trenches with players who care a bit players who have pride Not overpriced overpaid wankers Then you can add to it quality once the basics are in place Nothing fancy just solid and effective You need players who can pass the ball. Who can cross the ball. And who can shoot straight. That’s what we struggled with last season.
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 29, 2019 18:48:52 GMT
What the fuck am I reading on here. I listened to the interview and he answered everything. Why the hell are people reading inbetween the lines like a 3-2-1 clue? Bloody hell, the season hasn't started and we're not just second guessing but 8th guessing on stuff and moaning about every answer. Nit picking negative doomsayers, if we had Man City's squad the fuckers would still moan.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 29, 2019 18:49:00 GMT
I found myself disagreeing with Jones on a few things but he's paid to be the manager and I'll let him get on with it. Even despite a couple of areas in the side I'm not happy about, I still think we'll do alright this season. Where do you think we'll finish if we don't manage to bring anyone else in? Floating around the edges of the play offs, maybe sneaking in with the help of a stiff breeze.. but, can anyone say with any real certainty where we or anyone else will finish in this league?
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jul 29, 2019 18:49:09 GMT
Looked for a LB but nothing available that was worth the money. How are people getting their frillies twisted over that?! More like he thought getting Justin to sign was a cert after working with him before. Clearly a bit deluded on that one, but I think as things start to unravel he'll be shown to be deluded on a lot of levels. The oracle
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 18:49:50 GMT
I don’t think we needed that. We need quality in key areas. But we did A pulis side had it And a sprinkling of quality You need players who you would be in the trenches with players who care a bit players who have pride Not overpriced overpaid wankers Then you can add to it quality once the basics are in place Nothing fancy just solid and effective But everyone in a Pulis system was suited to where they were playing. Unfortunately we don’t have player suited to this system. I fully agree that in a flat 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 we’d be solid and effective but in a diamond we’re exposed in key areas.
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Post by biglad180 on Jul 29, 2019 18:51:00 GMT
i thought danny simpson might have done us a job but no mention of him. free transfer also
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 29, 2019 18:51:14 GMT
Where do you think we'll finish if we don't manage to bring anyone else in? Floating around the edges of the play offs, maybe sneaking in with the help of a stiff breeze.. but, can anyone say with any real certainty where we or anyone else will finish in this league? I'll go along with that. I'm not sure if that's good enough though really.
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Post by lordb on Jul 29, 2019 18:51:27 GMT
So it's what the Manager wants and therefore safe to assume the owners. Fans on the other hand.... You don't think the fans want promotion? Really? Have to wonder sometimes when you see the sheer glee that some posters take when we lose.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 29, 2019 18:51:53 GMT
So it's what the Manager wants and therefore safe to assume the owners. Fans on the other hand.... You don't think the fans want promotion? Really? A lot on here are readily accepting mediocrity and therefore failure.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jul 29, 2019 18:52:38 GMT
That's the negative way of interpretating his comments re Ward. How do you interpret his words on the matter? He said (not verbatim) that Ward was an excellent player to have at the Club, his experience and character were exemplary. A real professional. Oh, he added that Ward had been promoted from the Championship twice previously and that was invaluable experience. He DID NOT say anything that would offend Ward, nor undermine him in anyway.
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Post by nik80 on Jul 29, 2019 18:53:19 GMT
I'm looking forward to Wednesday's edition. What a soul-destroying hour that'll be. I can’t abide that prickly fucker 😆
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Post by sportsman on Jul 29, 2019 18:56:11 GMT
You don't think the fans want promotion? Really? Have to wonder sometimes when you see the sheer glee that some posters take when we lose. Reminds me a bit of brexit. Some doom monger mp's would probably try scupper a positive, good for the country brexit instead of getting told we told you it wouldn't be that bad by us leavers. In a nutshell win and look a twat, or lose and say I told you so?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 18:56:15 GMT
Well should Powell get injured I’m sure you’ll have a cracking time drinking to that. Just go ahead & wish it on him. And no, we weren’t remarkabley better, he always started well then faded as the game went on, often being rightly subbed. He either hasn’t got it anymore or can’t do it in this league. You absolute sad weirdo I’ve not wished that on anyone. If youve got nothing sensible to reply with don’t bother. But don’t make shit up. ‘You absolute sad wierdo’ 😂 Try not to get too rattled matey.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jul 29, 2019 18:57:59 GMT
What the fuck am I reading on here. I listened to the interview and he answered everything. Why the hell are people reading inbetween the lines like a 3-2-1 clue? Bloody hell, the season hasn't started and we're not just second guessing but 8th guessing on stuff and moaning about every answer. Sports. Your 1st sentence is absolutely spot on!!!! I too listened to the interview and I listened to a guy clearly answering the questions he could and hold back on those he couldn’t i.e names to transfer targets. I really despair at times.
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Post by Batfink on Jul 29, 2019 18:59:26 GMT
Where do you think we'll finish if we don't manage to bring anyone else in? Floating around the edges of the play offs, maybe sneaking in with the help of a stiff breeze.. but, can anyone say with any real certainty where we or anyone else will finish in this league? I think there are a couple on here who can. Otherwise, why else would they repeatedly moan about the same things before they've been give a chance?
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 29, 2019 19:10:57 GMT
Please tell me he didn’t more or less admit that? He didn’t extend his gaze very far so, surely he could have come up with better than Ward (a solid pro) and Jimmy Mc (another solid pro) both of whom seem seriously underwhelming
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2019 19:14:35 GMT
He didn’t extend his gaze very far so, surely he could have come up with better than Ward (a solid pro) and Jimmy Mc (another solid pro) both of whom seem seriously underwhelming Yeah it’s very odd but very Stoke. There was a left back in the world other than Stephen Ward that would do. People buy it though. Fucks me off to high heaven.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 29, 2019 19:14:55 GMT
"Only one target, Promotion" Christ, talk about loading a gun in front of your balls! What were you expecting his answer to be? What are your targets for our club this season? Maybe something more general along the lines of “a significant improvement on last season” Why create a rod to beat your own back. I like Jones but some of his media commentary is poor
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Post by southcoaststokie on Jul 29, 2019 19:16:41 GMT
What the fuck am I reading on here. I listened to the interview and he answered everything. Why the hell are people reading inbetween the lines like a 3-2-1 clue? Bloody hell, the season hasn't started and we're not just second guessing but 8th guessing on stuff and moaning about every answer. Sports. Your 1st sentence is absolutely spot on!!!! I too listened to the interview and I listened to a guy clearly answering the questions he could and hold back on those he couldn’t i.e names to transfer targets. I really despair at times. I too listened to the show, he tried to answer every question fairly, said that he and Bojan had a good relationship and both decided at the end it would be best to move on, he obviously didn't get his first or maybe 2nd choice RB, so what else do you do, buy inferior or work to make better players fit that roll, he mentioned that they are trying as hard as possible not to make mistakes in the market and not just buy numbers, and anyone coming in now would have to be an improvement on what he has , which is the right way to go about things, really don't get all the negativity on here, when asked about the diamond he pointed out that a top premiership team reverted to a diamond because they were not getting much joy, it's a new season, get behind the manager and the team ffs.
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Post by stokeykez on Jul 29, 2019 19:17:40 GMT
I’m glad the circus of Bojan has gone. Been shit for three years, not every manager can be wrong. Too weak, no good for the championship. Move on. Love it cilla,I have to agree
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Post by scfc75 on Jul 29, 2019 19:20:08 GMT
But we did A pulis side had it And a sprinkling of quality You need players who you would be in the trenches with players who care a bit players who have pride Not overpriced overpaid wankers Then you can add to it quality once the basics are in place Nothing fancy just solid and effective But everyone in a Pulis system was suited to where they were playing. Unfortunately we don’t have player suited to this system. I fully agree that in a flat 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 we’d be solid and effective but in a diamond we’re exposed in key areas. Sonko and Woodgate at full back says otherwise..
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Post by anto1 on Jul 29, 2019 19:20:59 GMT
It also looked like he had a bit of ago at the presenter during one of the breaks. I definitely picked up that he was angry over something, but what makes you read arrogance into it? Just how he came accross really and how he answered some of the questions. It was like if he didn't like the question he,answered it with a question.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 19:21:25 GMT
You don't think the fans want promotion? Really? A lot on here are readily accepting mediocrity and therefore failure. That's fine but you specifically used the word(s) 'want / wants'. Fans might be realistic and they might downtalk what they would accept, but i'm certain 100% of all supporters would WANT promotion and WANT it yesterday.
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Post by stokeykez on Jul 29, 2019 19:25:13 GMT
Doing well to be within 2 years of getting it right. My mum still thinks I'm 40 ish, something, less than 50!!
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Post by scfc75 on Jul 29, 2019 19:26:46 GMT
"Only one target, Promotion" Christ, talk about loading a gun in front of your balls! Imagine the alternative interview...”only one target... 11th”. Meanwhile the whole of the Oatcake nods sagely, agrees with Nath and looks forward to the season with confidence...
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Post by southcoaststokie on Jul 29, 2019 19:26:58 GMT
I’m glad the circus of Bojan has gone. Been shit for three years, not every manager can be wrong. Too weak, no good for the championship. Move on. Love it cilla,I have to agree It's not just our managers though is it, it seems like it is every manager of every team in every country that doesn't rate him, for a few months here he was a joy to watch, but after the injury, no idea of the circumstances that followed, he was just not the same player, every players value is determined by the market, unfortunately Bojan doesn't have a market.
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Post by felonious on Jul 29, 2019 19:31:26 GMT
What the fuck am I reading on here. I listened to the interview and he answered everything. Why the hell are people reading inbetween the lines like a 3-2-1 clue? Bloody hell, the season hasn't started and we're not just second guessing but 8th guessing on stuff and moaning about every answer. Well while Radio Stoke had secured their audience they followed it up with an hour on conspiracy theories
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 19:32:51 GMT
"Only one target, Promotion" Christ, talk about loading a gun in front of your balls! Imagine the alternative interview...”only one target... 11th”. Meanwhile the whole of the Oatcake nods sagely, agrees with Nath and looks forward to the season with confidence... But I thought we were part of “the journey” and it would take time and not everything could be sorted on one window?
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 29, 2019 19:34:42 GMT
But he did. What did he say that alluded to this? I can't recall anything I wrote it out a couple of pages back in more detail.
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