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Post by thisisouryear on Oct 29, 2020 15:39:38 GMT
Let's be honest, Starmer needs to distance himself from Corbyn and this is an opportunity taken in a similar way it was to get rid of Long Bailey. Don't know if it's enough to cause a split but you never know, both the main parties seem like they could split.
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 29, 2020 15:45:03 GMT
You think this is about 'morals'?! Trying to eradicate anti-Semitism (and any form of prejudice) seems to be the morally correct thing to do, yes. Is weeding out anti zionism and silencing the debate of the war crimes being committed daily by the Israeli government and its supporters Also the right thing to do There was little anti Semitism in the Labour Party but there was considerable anti Zionism Which starmer and his cronies are willing to exploit
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2020 15:56:38 GMT
Trying to eradicate anti-Semitism (and any form of prejudice) seems to be the morally correct thing to do, yes. Is weeding out anti zionism and silencing the debate of the war crimes being committed daily by the Israeli government and its supporters Also the right thing to do There was little anti Semitism in the Labour Party but there was considerable anti Zionism Which starmer and his cronies are willing to exploit Good job you're not a member that would get you suspended.......
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 29, 2020 16:06:01 GMT
Is weeding out anti zionism and silencing the debate of the war crimes being committed daily by the Israeli government and its supporters Also the right thing to do There was little anti Semitism in the Labour Party but there was considerable anti Zionism Which starmer and his cronies are willing to exploit Good job you're not a member that would get you suspended....... Exactly my point the Israeli lobby across the world have been very clever in getting criticism of Israel wrongly labeled as Semitic And stooges like starmer are either to scared or to compliant to say anything
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Post by flea79 on Oct 29, 2020 16:53:06 GMT
Corbyn rightly suspended. When is Johnson starting the investigation into islamaphobia in the tory party that he promised during his leadership campaign? Johnson is a far bigger racist than Corbyn Perhaps he will. I'd say that making Sajid Javid the first British Asian to hold one of the Great Offices of State to be a good start. not too mention Rishi Sunak is a potential PM in waiting, he has come across really well throughout covid and actually seems an excellent orator and a nice chap
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 29, 2020 17:08:40 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 29, 2020 17:11:34 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 29, 2020 17:21:16 GMT
You backed another loser for the many but not the Jew ! nasty racist party. Careful... You may get banned.. That is very likely
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 29, 2020 17:23:26 GMT
You backed another loser for the many but not the Jew ! nasty racist party. I’m sure you cannot be a hypocrite, so you won’t have voted for the man who described black people as “picaninnies with watermelon smiles” or the party who has demonised foreigners (Brexit Party, UKIP) I can categorically confirm I did not vote for Bojo
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 29, 2020 17:27:01 GMT
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Post by heworksardtho on Oct 29, 2020 17:31:01 GMT
New Labour ............Ths Racist Party
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Oct 29, 2020 17:38:59 GMT
Let be honest the political maths around this is very simple
People don’t like JC
JC is now suspended
Labour and Kier are now more electable as a result, be interesting to see what the polls make of this
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2020 17:42:35 GMT
Let be honest the political maths around this is very simple People don’t like JC JC is now suspended Labour and Kier are now more electable as a result, be interesting to see what the polls make of this We'll see, I think you've misjudged what will happen down the line though......
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 29, 2020 17:52:03 GMT
Good job you're not a member that would get you suspended....... Exactly my point the Israeli lobby across the world have been very clever in getting criticism of Israel wrongly labeled as Semitic And stooges like starmer are either to scared or to compliant to say anything Sorry waga that is just bollocks, the things that Corbyn have led to him being called anti semitic being mates with hamas, hezbollah, putting wreaths on graves, failing to kick out Livingstone over his Hitler comments are absolutely nothing to do with criticism of israel. But lets pretend this is really all motivated by a wish to criticise Israel for all the bad things they do considering China is running ACTUAL concentration and reducation camps for over 1m muslims at the moment, you'd think all those same people who want to criticise Israel would be losing their shit yet 99% of those types have not said a fucking word. If it walks like a dog, barks like a dog its a dog and its pretty clear what the motivation really is for all those people.
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 29, 2020 17:52:35 GMT
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 29, 2020 17:55:28 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 29, 2020 17:59:03 GMT
There are 1 from 1 with the complaint about corbyn so I wouldnt laugh too soon.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 29, 2020 18:00:00 GMT
Let be honest the political maths around this is very simple People don’t like JC JC is now suspended Labour and Kier are now more electable as a result, be interesting to see what the polls make of this We'll see, I think you've misjudged what will happen down the line though...... What happens with the under 40 vote will be interesting. They voted for Corbyn in massive numbers in 2017 and by a big majority in 2019. Tories are basically toxic to anyone under 35 but this current Starmer mob have nothing to offer younger people except more of the same old shit.
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Post by felonious on Oct 29, 2020 18:01:12 GMT
Let be honest the political maths around this is very simple People don’t like JC JC is now suspended Labour and Kier are now more electable as a result, be interesting to see what the polls make of this Depends on how much of the Labour party is left after the fall out.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 29, 2020 18:01:17 GMT
There are 1 from 1 with the complaint about corbyn so I wouldnt laugh too soon. By doing this, they're basically disagreeing with the findings of the EHRC report.
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 29, 2020 18:02:12 GMT
Would that be Angela rayner Starmers deputy now I wonder what he’s going to do with that Maybe she’s the right type of anti Semite
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Post by thevoid on Oct 29, 2020 18:09:54 GMT
BLM are setting up their own party. The lunatic fringe will flock to them presumably.
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 29, 2020 18:11:21 GMT
There are 1 from 1 with the complaint about corbyn so I wouldnt laugh too soon. By doing this, they're basically disagreeing with the findings of the EHRC report. Nope I suggest you up about the scope of findings, report was to rule on the Labour party and people acting directly for them, not individual cases - they did state they found over 20 examples of Corbyn and his team interfering in the disputes process, including the complaint against him re the mural.
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 29, 2020 18:11:43 GMT
Hey? I was talking about Corbyn originally being in favour of Brexit, then him edging his bets on it so as not to alienate either Labour Brexiteers or the student vote, and then suddenly backing Remain as election day loomed large when he realised potential votes were being lost to the Lib Dems (which is a significant reason for his heavy defeat). As for Johnson, he campaigned that he would see the outcome of the referendum followed through, hence his victory. Remainers often tell us that people can change their minds, well clearly BoJo was exercising that right! Yes I thought you were. I was referring to Johnson’s change of heart when he realised the opportunity for power if he decides to be anti EU. Mind you, Uturns are Johnson’s speciality
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 29, 2020 18:12:53 GMT
I’m sure you cannot be a hypocrite, so you won’t have voted for the man who described black people as “picaninnies with watermelon smiles” or the party who has demonised foreigners (Brexit Party, UKIP) I can categorically confirm I did not vote for Bojo Good!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 29, 2020 18:13:01 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 29, 2020 18:13:11 GMT
Would that be Angela rayner Starmers deputy now I wonder what he’s going to do with that Maybe she’s the right type of anti Semite Angela they are going to need a bigger smear you mean, doubt he is that bothered if she gets booted he didnt choose her.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 29, 2020 18:16:17 GMT
By doing this, they're basically disagreeing with the findings of the EHRC report. Nope I suggest you up about the scope of findings, report was to rule on the Labour party and people acting directly for them, not individual cases - they did state they found over 20 examples of Corbyn and his team interfering in the disputes process, including the complaint against him re the mural. So you are agreeing the the Labour Party are NOT institutionally anti-Semitic but 15 of it's most senior representatives including it's deputy leader are? It's utter bollocks.
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 29, 2020 18:48:17 GMT
Nope I suggest you up about the scope of findings, report was to rule on the Labour party and people acting directly for them, not individual cases - they did state they found over 20 examples of Corbyn and his team interfering in the disputes process, including the complaint against him re the mural. So you are agreeing the the Labour Party are NOT institutionally anti-Semitic but 15 of it's most senior representatives including it's deputy leader are? It's utter bollocks. It’s a modern day witch hunt anyone with independent thought is heading for the ducking stool
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Oct 29, 2020 18:56:15 GMT
Leadership. 🐸☕
The suspension of any racist from any party should be applauded by *all*
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