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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 29, 2020 12:15:21 GMT
If you have a point spit it out. It's a straightforward question? Do you support the findings of this Commission? Good luck trying to get answers out of that clown.
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Post by spitthedog on Oct 29, 2020 12:17:43 GMT
It's a straightforward question? Do you support the findings of this Commission? Good luck trying to get answers out of that clown. I just assumed that if someone is posting Commission related material they must be familiar with it and I would assume probably be supportive of their work, or at least have faith in it to the extent that they think this report is credible.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2020 12:27:06 GMT
I really don't care what some internet no-mark thinks about me. But thanks for replying...... You have moved seamlessly from it was weaponised, made up, exgarrated too it was not corbyns fault and he did his best quite some about turn. Don’t misquote me. I have said all along there was antisemitism amongst Labour members. A small minority, albeit one that needs disposing of. I have criticised Corbyn for many things so again I have no idea what you’re on about. You’re just waffling as usual......
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Post by Dutchpeter on Oct 29, 2020 12:34:38 GMT
I wonder if this is the moment Starmer was waiting for to expel or diminish those on the hard left of the party? Somewhat like Kinnock after Derek Hatton infamously sent out redundancy notices in taxi cabs to council workers.
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 29, 2020 12:34:53 GMT
If you have a point spit it out. It's a straightforward question? Do you support the findings of this Commission? You posted a lot of material relating to the Commission so I was wondering if you are supportive, or agree with their work in general. I have not read the full report yet but summaries certainly seem quite detailed and damning. I dont really follow the commission that closely but am aware of a couple of other cases they have taken the previous / current government to court on, one in regards to payments to people with disabilities who moved to UC. Have no reason to doubt their partiality or fairness so I presume this is leading to some sort of Tories did something bad too type point.
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 29, 2020 12:37:48 GMT
Yes they reformed the process to such an extent they put an inexperienced 20 something daughter of one of the gang in charge, laughable statement no surprise you lapped it up.
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Post by spitthedog on Oct 29, 2020 12:57:27 GMT
It's a straightforward question? Do you support the findings of this Commission? You posted a lot of material relating to the Commission so I was wondering if you are supportive, or agree with their work in general. I have not read the full report yet but summaries certainly seem quite detailed and damning. I dont really follow the commission that closely but am aware of a couple of other cases they have taken the previous / current government to court on, one in regards to payments to people with disabilities who moved to UC. Have no reason to doubt their partiality or fairness so I presume this is leading to some sort of Tories did something bad too type point. I'm really happy to see you embracing and promoting the EHRC's work as you have done on this thread. I also think it's important, particularly their campaign to maintain the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the EU in Brexit Withdrawal Agreement and their concerns about post-Brexit hate crime. Look forward to more posts highlighting their work. EHRC Chair “The combination of the post-Brexit rise in hate crime and deep race inequality in Britain is very worrying and must be tackled urgently. “Today's report underlines just how entrenched race inequality and unfairness still is in our society. “We must redouble our efforts to tackle race inequality urgently or risk the divisions in our society growing and racial tensions increasing. “If you are Black or an ethnic minority in modern Britain, it can often still feel like you’re living in a different world, never mind being part of a one nation society.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2020 13:06:40 GMT
Yes they reformed the process to such an extent they put an inexperienced 20 something daughter of one of the gang in charge, laughable statement no surprise you lapped it up. You're very good on emotional waffle but not so good on commenting on facts. That's what happened when you use Guido Fawkes as your only reference points I suppose......
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2020 13:07:52 GMT
Totally predictable. It's like an episode of the Truman Show is this......
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Post by zerps on Oct 29, 2020 13:11:49 GMT
Corbyn suspended the horrible racist weasel
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Post by Dutchpeter on Oct 29, 2020 13:15:30 GMT
Corbyn suspended the horrible racist weasel It’s started already. Starmer was part of the leadership, does he suspend himself?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 29, 2020 13:18:19 GMT
Totally predictable. It's like an episode of the Truman Show is this...... Interesting that on the day a report which says that Labour is neither institutionally anti-Smitic nor that Corbyn is accused of anti-Semitism that the despicable Starmer uses this to reinforce a cleansing all of his own. This was never, ever, about concerns over ani-Semitism for most.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Oct 29, 2020 13:18:33 GMT
Oh well, some good news on a thoroughly sad and depressing day given the news coming from France.
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Post by xchpotter on Oct 29, 2020 13:19:09 GMT
Well, whatever your thoughts on Jezza, he sticks to his guns which is refreshing in some ways to the chameleon and shape shifting normal politician types we see.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Oct 29, 2020 13:19:33 GMT
Corbyn suspended the horrible racist weasel It’s started already. Starmer was part of the leadership, does he suspend himself? Yep. That clown supported him and actively pushed for him to be PM.
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 29, 2020 13:20:26 GMT
I have not read the full report yet but summaries certainly seem quite detailed and damning. I dont really follow the commission that closely but am aware of a couple of other cases they have taken the previous / current government to court on, one in regards to payments to people with disabilities who moved to UC. Have no reason to doubt their partiality or fairness so I presume this is leading to some sort of Tories did something bad too type point. I'm really happy to see you embracing and promoting the EHRC's work as you have done on this thread. I also think it's important, particularly their campaign to maintain the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the EU in Brexit Withdrawal Agreement and their concerns about post-Brexit hate crime. Look forward to more posts highlighting their work. EHRC Chair “The combination of the post-Brexit rise in hate crime and deep race inequality in Britain is very worrying and must be tackled urgently. “Today's report underlines just how entrenched race inequality and unfairness still is in our society. “We must redouble our efforts to tackle race inequality urgently or risk the divisions in our society growing and racial tensions increasing. “If you are Black or an ethnic minority in modern Britain, it can often still feel like you’re living in a different world, never mind being part of a one nation society. That's great you have got some quotes from 4 years ago but miss out the comments he makes about May the then PM, are you expecting me to argue against this or something ? The clue is in the thread title and the report today is very relevant to this, the next judgement feel free to start a thread and I'll happily give you a view if its that important.....
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 29, 2020 13:23:27 GMT
It’s started already. Starmer was part of the leadership, does he suspend himself? Yep. That clown supported him and actively pushed for him to be PM. That's the elephant in the room for him and the shadow cabinet, trying to stop brexit was judged more important than taking a stand.
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Post by zerps on Oct 29, 2020 13:25:33 GMT
Totally predictable. It's like an episode of the Truman Show is this...... Interesting that on the day a report which says that Labour is neither institutionally anti-Smitic nor that Corbyn is accused of anti-Semitism that the despicable Starmer uses this to reinforce a cleansing all of his own. This was never, ever, about concerns over ani-Semitism for most. Who are you going to idolise now mate?
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 29, 2020 13:25:54 GMT
Corbyn rightly suspended.
When is Johnson starting the investigation into islamaphobia in the tory party that he promised during his leadership campaign?
Johnson is a far bigger racist than Corbyn
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 29, 2020 13:27:24 GMT
Corbyn rightly suspended. On what basis?
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 29, 2020 13:29:49 GMT
Corbyn rightly suspended. On what basis? He is in denial about the report findings and has minimised them. Unacceptable. He should have said he took steps to counter anti semitism as leader but this report shows he didn’t go far enough and he should have apologised for it. Johnson is a far bigger racist than Corbyn.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2020 13:31:00 GMT
Totally predictable. It's like an episode of the Truman Show is this...... Interesting that on the day a report which says that Labour is neither institutionally anti-Smitic nor that Corbyn is accused of anti-Semitism that the despicable Starmer uses this to reinforce a cleansing all of his own. This was never, ever, about concerns over ani-Semitism for most. It's been executed to a tee though. Headlines have been totally in sync on social media, then right on cue Ian Austin, Luciana Berger, Louise Ellman, John Mann, Ed Balls are brought in to parrot at best half truths. Then after Starmer's conference the question of whether Corbyn should resign. And bingo by lunch time he's suspended from the party. The Forde Inquiry will be swept under the carpet and Starmer will do his best to rid the stench of all of this, and it will rumble on.......
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 29, 2020 13:32:23 GMT
Yes they reformed the process to such an extent they put an inexperienced 20 something daughter of one of the gang in charge, laughable statement no surprise you lapped it up. You're very good on emotional waffle but not so good on commenting on facts. That's what happened when you use Guido Fawkes as your only reference points I suppose...... So Laura Murray wasn't made head of complaints without any previous experience then, Laura Murray former Corbyn aide and daughter of one of his advisors, Laura Murray who whilst in post was sued for libel by a jewish celebrity who had previously criticised racist grandpa. These fact enough for you ?
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 29, 2020 13:34:37 GMT
You're very good on emotional waffle but not so good on commenting on facts. That's what happened when you use Guido Fawkes as your only reference points I suppose...... So Laura Murray wasn't made head of complaints without any previous experience then, Laura Murray former Corbyn aide and daughter of one of his advisors, Laura Murray who whilst in post was sued for libel by a jewish celebrity who had previously criticised racist grandpa. These fact enough for you ? Whereas the tories never appoint people to positions they aren’t qualified to do, would be inappropriate for them to do or down to nepotism? How’s Dido Harding doing? Or the openly racist PM?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 29, 2020 13:40:55 GMT
Anyone who doesn't think Corbyn's Labour Party had a long-standing and highly damaging problem with anti-Semitism that he singularly failed to get to grips with is deluding themselves.
Given that Corbyn is now yesterday's man, it seems entirely understandable for new leadership seeking to remove anti-Semitism from the party and to move the party in a new direction to put some distance between himself and the previous leader.
That said, I've not read the report. But the headline findings, as reported, don't surprise me in the slightest.
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 29, 2020 13:40:55 GMT
So Laura Murray wasn't made head of complaints without any previous experience then, Laura Murray former Corbyn aide and daughter of one of his advisors, Laura Murray who whilst in post was sued for libel by a jewish celebrity who had previously criticised racist grandpa. These fact enough for you ? Whereas the tories never appoint people to positions they aren’t qualified to do, would be inappropriate for them to do or down to nepotism? How’s Dido Harding doing? Or the openly racist PM? Dido Harding the one who is running test and trace on a voluntary basis you mean ?
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 29, 2020 13:47:13 GMT
He is in denial about the report findings and has minimised them. Unacceptable. He should have said he took steps to counter anti semitism as leader but this report shows he didn’t go far enough and he should have apologised for it. Johnson is a far bigger racist than Corbyn.
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Post by thevoid on Oct 29, 2020 13:54:35 GMT
Well, whatever your thoughts on Jezza, he sticks to his guns which is refreshing in some ways to the chameleon and shape shifting normal politician types we see. Apart from Brexit...
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Post by flea79 on Oct 29, 2020 13:56:57 GMT
at least its nearly December and he can get a job as a low rate dirty Santa somewhere
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Post by thevoid on Oct 29, 2020 13:59:11 GMT
Corbyn rightly suspended. When is Johnson starting the investigation into islamaphobia in the tory party that he promised during his leadership campaign? Johnson is a far bigger racist than Corbyn Perhaps he will. I'd say that making Sajid Javid the first British Asian to hold one of the Great Offices of State to be a good start.
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