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Post by baystokie on Jun 21, 2019 11:50:10 GMT
I've had my doubts myself tbh of a fair few recent transfers If someone is crap then they are a Tony Scholes signing in some opinions I remember a bloke on here talking about Lou Macari and trying to make out that he masterminded the Sheron purchase ( he had nothing to do with it) and didn't want Keith Scott originally which were both nonsense. Was literally someone fitting a signing into their agenda of a person. I get that players may have been already on the radar like Bauer but all this finger pointing has no substance at all. Well said. Rarely have I had the misfortune to read so much ill-informed, based on 'not knowing any facts of the matter', conspiracy-based garbage from so many, though most of the usual suspects with their bile-filled agenda ared well to the fore. Social media? - the last refuge of the cowardly, cardboard warrior  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 12:05:24 GMT
If someone is crap then they are a Tony Scholes signing in some opinions I remember a bloke on here talking about Lou Macari and trying to make out that he masterminded the Sheron purchase ( he had nothing to do with it) and didn't want Keith Scott originally which were both nonsense. Was literally someone fitting a signing into their agenda of a person. I get that players may have been already on the radar like Bauer but all this finger pointing has no substance at all. Well said. Rarely have I had the misfortune to read so much ill-informed, based on 'not knowing any facts of the matter', conspiracy-based garbage from so many, though most of the usual suspects with their bile-filled agenda ared well to the fore. Social media? - the last refuge of the cowardly, cardboard warrior What's a cardboard warrior? |
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Post by danceswithclams on Jun 21, 2019 12:14:39 GMT
What's a cardboard warrior? Saw them supporting World of Twist in the early 90s. Great band. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 21, 2019 12:17:07 GMT
My challenge to this is
No one could have predicted those two terrible years
That I’m afraid Tony is garbage plenty of people saw it coming as the investment policy first chose to focus on bang or bust and then changed to sustainable via frees and loans and then back to “ hit our way out of the championship on the back of a fundamentally flawed recruitment team and process
Our decline was apparent two years out or more stevie wonder could see it coming let alone anyone who watched week in week out and the board both denied the evidence and orchestrated the next phase of the crash .
As for now we’ve no choice to follow the road we are on Money or not we can’t use it and Nathan your choice is our only hope so it’s key you don’t desert him in Rocky times things like we will know by the end of August don’t help we will be lucky to have six points and if so that’s what we deserve
I’ve given up hoping for root and branch change it’s not happening so now all we can hope is those in charge and the CEO hold their nerve stick by Nathan it’s a three year job of our own making. And we have to show the bollocks to stick it out
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Post by kelw on Jun 21, 2019 12:31:18 GMT
Well said. Rarely have I had the misfortune to read so much ill-informed, based on 'not knowing any facts of the matter', conspiracy-based garbage from so many, though most of the usual suspects with their bile-filled agenda ared well to the fore. Social media? - the last refuge of the cowardly, cardboard warrior What's a cardboard warrior? I think it's those cut outs of Superman you get in Blockbusters. Still waiting for someone to prove who signs these players rather than rant about it |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 12:33:33 GMT
What's a cardboard warrior? I think it's those cut outs of Superman you get in Blockbusters. Still waiting for someone to prove who signs these players rather than rant about it Scholes signs the players. |
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Post by kelw on Jun 21, 2019 12:40:51 GMT
I think it's those cut outs of Superman you get in Blockbusters. Still waiting for someone to prove who signs these players rather than rant about it Scholes signs the players. Was talking more re targeting them....not the actual signings but yes see your point. Guys like the fella above rant but have no idea where they're coming from. Was a bit fortunate early 90s late 80s to see a few first hand but he knows better- so feel can discuss them, the Sheron deal for instance was offered to us not something we put together. Peschisolido was not sold out of the blue on deadline day but weeks before, he stupidly told a crowd of Blues fans this in the lounge after a game as well. Lou turned down Andy Cole who was offered to us days after scoring for us v Fulham and Lou wanted to sell Stein to Newcastle for 600k. All social media rubbish of course  We were also nearly playing at the JCB stadium as well and the seats were to be multi coloured based on the New Orleans Superdome. I'm sure he knows all this |
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Post by baystokie on Jun 21, 2019 13:50:08 GMT
I can only offer my apologies for creating confusion on an earlier post. Delete 'cardboard warrior' and insert 'keyboard warrior'.
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Post by kelw on Jun 21, 2019 14:15:56 GMT
I can only offer my apologies for creating confusion on an earlier post. Delete 'cardboard warrior' and insert 'keyboard warrior'. As in someone who gives it all with nothing to back it up . Wonder who that could be describing...oh it's you. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 16:51:04 GMT
I can only offer my apologies for creating confusion on an earlier post. Delete 'cardboard warrior' and insert 'keyboard warrior'. As in someone who gives it all with nothing to back it up . Wonder who that could be describing...oh it's you. Blimey, a bit harsh; the poor fella was agreeing with you! He is a bit of a keyboard warrior though  (jk baystokie) |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jun 21, 2019 16:55:42 GMT
Which week is he talking about though. Remember "Josh Tymon to sign tomorrow" thread that lasted all summer couple of years ago!
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Post by luke2u on Jun 21, 2019 18:11:46 GMT
How stupid Scholes sounds at BBC Radio Stoke when he talks about not announcing signings as players are under contract until 1st July. Just as they haven't been the same in previous years. The same with players joining other clubs.
If he's not going to pull some big rabbits out of the hat, this is just silly.
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Post by neddy on Jun 21, 2019 18:13:57 GMT
How stupid Scholes sounds at BBC Radio Stoke when he talks about not announcing signings as players are under contract until 1st July. Just as they haven't been the same in previous years. The same with players joining other clubs. If he's not going to pull some big rabbits out of the hat, this is just silly. Unless Nathan has asked to wait until he’s back ? |
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Post by luke2u on Jun 21, 2019 18:28:45 GMT
How stupid Scholes sounds at BBC Radio Stoke when he talks about not announcing signings as players are under contract until 1st July. Just as they haven't been the same in previous years. The same with players joining other clubs. If he's not going to pull some big rabbits out of the hat, this is just silly. Unless Nathan has asked to wait until he’s back ? Still it will come out silly if they just announce the players we all know are already signed. |
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Post by harrysburrow on Jun 21, 2019 19:39:19 GMT
Unless Nathan has asked to wait until he’s back ? Still it will come out silly if they just announce the players we all know are already signed. Absolutely mate. It's a bit like when you're a kid looking round the house for Christmas presents and find some at the back of the airing cupboard. (Showing my age!) They're decent enough, but nothing to get particularly excited about. Dodgy bit comes on the big day when you've prepared to look surprised and pleased, still holding onto the hope that there were some better ones you didn't know about - and there weren't. The new players may turn out to be good, but the club is going to look a bit twatish if that's all they're announcing next week - especially if it goes with the departure of Butland (and maybe Allen?) |
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Post by bertiestan on Jun 22, 2019 5:17:13 GMT
Really...who actually gives a fuck when they sign, it all seems like Powell, Gregory and Davies are done, holidays n honeymoons etc but ffs I trust Jones 100%...not necessarily Scholes n co but Jones entirely...no need for bed wetting imo.
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Post by bertiestan on Jun 22, 2019 5:18:02 GMT
I'm sure that players join us on the 30th June / 1st July when wages end from their previous club. Contract terms and conditions have been agreed. The new players may have sighed that they would like to join us on the 1st July. They players don't become ours until then. Some people don't seem to get this...the mind boggles mate |
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Post by zerps on Jun 22, 2019 8:03:10 GMT
Announcing an announcement is the best way to falsely get people’s hopes up 😆
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 22, 2019 9:01:18 GMT
Still it will come out silly if they just announce the players we all know are already signed. Absolutely mate. It's a bit like when you're a kid looking round the house for Christmas presents and find some at the back of the airing cupboard. (Showing my age!) They're decent enough, but nothing to get particularly excited about. Dodgy bit comes on the big day when you've prepared to look surprised and pleased, still holding onto the hope that there were some better ones you didn't know about - and there weren't. The new players may turn out to be good, but the club is going to look a bit twatish if that's all they're announcing next week - especially if it goes with the departure of Butland (and maybe Allen?) Save yourself the disappointment in the modern world next weeks announcements are not going to contain a Santa special |
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Post by fca47 on Jun 22, 2019 9:04:42 GMT
This situation is getting more strange, teasing people with the signing of players you have hardly heard of. It would be different if it was Cristiano Ronalso.Have Stoke employed some genius new communications director?
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 22, 2019 10:00:21 GMT
I wonder if they will have a special ambition type unveiling  |
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Post by chigstoke on Jun 22, 2019 10:23:41 GMT
This situation is getting more strange, teasing people with the signing of players you have hardly heard of. It would be different if it was Cristiano Ronalso.Have Stoke employed some genius new communications director? The reveal must be better than the Ambition tweet or Rowett being photographed next to a wheelie bin. It's not even hype at this point. We knew who we were signing a month ago. |
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Post by kelw on Jun 22, 2019 10:32:16 GMT
I don't get this. Dozens of people moaning we haven't announced the players, Scholes then comes out and says we'll announce them early next week and it's...why is he announcing things etc . Obviously will be announced with official photos etc as the way is done. Is no big deal
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 22, 2019 10:34:58 GMT
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 22, 2019 10:47:38 GMT
A little bit worrying that we're just summarily dismissing the notion of any overseas signings. That's presumably what Jones wants, but again, any hopes that we have any kind of scouting network who might be able to sniff out the kind of gems Norwich and others have done just seems entirely forlorn doesn't it? |
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Post by nutterpotter on Jun 22, 2019 10:58:49 GMT
A little bit worrying that we're just summarily dismissing the notion of any overseas signings. That's presumably what Jones wants, but again, any hopes that we have any kind of scouting network who might be able to sniff out the kind of gems Norwich and others have done just seems entirely forlorn doesn't it? Also baffling considering our best signing last summer was Etebo |
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Post by somersetstokie on Jun 22, 2019 11:01:05 GMT
Quote:www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-transfer-news-scholes-3007536 “And I think you will see in some of the acquisitions we are doing, we are also looking, and it’s where Nathan has a real expertise, at some of the players who’ve been playing at a lower level than this and who might be able to step up.” Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/288538/scholes-announcements-early-next-week?page=3#ixzz5rZbpHe00Its the use of the words "playing at a lower level" that concern me. As if a psychological campaign is being set up with continued reference to the words "lower level" as if to say "this is the world that we live in now, get used to it." We are possibly being prepared for an extended spell as a lower league club and those are the rules we will live by. Thats it unless we just happen to get lucky and this is how life is going to be for quite a while. Dreams of the Premier League and the return of Stokealona just aren't going to happen. |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jun 22, 2019 11:13:31 GMT
A little bit worrying that we're just summarily dismissing the notion of any overseas signings. That's presumably what Jones wants, but again, any hopes that we have any kind of scouting network who might be able to sniff out the kind of gems Norwich and others have done just seems entirely forlorn doesn't it? Also baffling considering our best signing last summer was Etebo This. Very strange admission. |
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 22, 2019 11:26:13 GMT
I've said it for over 10 years. SCFC are the laziest bunch of fucks in football. Little wonder we have won the square root of fuck all.
Basically we can't be arsed to put the effort in and scout the best players available to us, wherever they may be.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 12:30:21 GMT
So the delay is so project Pravda can kick in with the Sentinel?
Butter us up for some League One players before unveiling them?
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We were also nearly playing at the JCB stadium as well and the seats were to be multi coloured based on the New Orleans Superdome. I'm sure he knows all this
(jk 
