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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 8, 2019 13:37:54 GMT
3m for a fit, full premier league/international player who's still in contract, going to a premier league club and only 30??? nice one stoke. good to see nothing's changed. Contracted for only one more season. Clearly surplus to requirements £3 million actually is a good fee if we have got it. I'd still guess at closer to £1m. We had no leverage at all, did we? We'd shown our hand and were basically begging someone to take his wages off us - and if he was still here in a fortnight, he would have had to spend his last year under contract out on loan
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 8, 2019 13:39:51 GMT
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Post by toppercorner on Jul 8, 2019 13:40:15 GMT
3m for a fit, full premier league/international player who's still in contract, going to a premier league club and only 30??? nice one stoke. good to see nothing's changed. Contracted for only one more season. Clearly surplus to requirements £3 million actually is a good fee if we have got it. we are absolute mugs when it comes to transfers. if it was 6/7m i'd say fair enough in this day and age. 3m is still far too low. I'm sure Scholes realises this is low, as didn't we pay 12m for Berahino with 5 months left on his contract!?
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Post by neddy on Jul 8, 2019 13:40:30 GMT
Contracted for only one more season. Clearly surplus to requirements £3 million actually is a good fee if we have got it. I'd still guess at closer to £1m. We had no leverage at all, did we? We'd shown our hand and were basically begging someone to take his wages off us - and if he was still here in a fortnight, he would have had to spend his last year under contract out on loan One thing is for certain now though if we don’t buy in a better left back before the window closes the cynics will be all over Nath!
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Post by thebet365 on Jul 8, 2019 13:41:10 GMT
Some on here would find something to moan about if they won the lottery.
At least we're finally shifting some players out.
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Post by SCFC92 on Jul 8, 2019 13:44:24 GMT
Contracted for only one more season. Clearly surplus to requirements £3 million actually is a good fee if we have got it. we are absolute mugs when it comes to transfers. if it was 6/7m i'd say fair enough in this day and age. 3m is still far too low. I'm sure Scholes realises this is low, as didn't we pay 12m for Berahino with 5 months left on his contract!? 6-7 Million for a player who is completely and obviously surplus to requirements who only had one year left on his contract. I mean the transfer market is mad these days but that is absolutely bonkers! His wages have gone, we have got a fee and the manager is happy. It's a good deal
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 8, 2019 13:45:01 GMT
What Jones team we saw last season, do you mean the 2 players that he signed?!?! The one he picked every week for 23 games. He made some controversial choices, so of course what we saw was the Jones team every time! It wasn't though was it, it was a group of players already here, already failing.
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Post by lordb on Jul 8, 2019 13:47:17 GMT
Some on here would find something to moan about if they won the lottery. At least we're finally shifting some players out. Just the six numbers? Bastard I wanted the bonus ball as well, Scholes out.
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Post by scfc75 on Jul 8, 2019 13:48:34 GMT
Fresh start should do us and him good. Not top of the bomb squad list but at least it’s one out of the door.
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Post by thebet365 on Jul 8, 2019 13:50:19 GMT
Some on here would find something to moan about if they won the lottery. At least we're finally shifting some players out. Just the six numbers? Bastard I wanted the bonus ball as well, Scholes out. Only 3 Million ? It was 5 Million last week and 12 Million last month. Rotten to the core the whole thing is
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Post by jezzascfc on Jul 8, 2019 13:50:36 GMT
One year left, clearly out of favour, 30 - even I would find it hard to suggest more than 2m for him. If it is 1/1.5m, I would not be that surprised.
Mings for 20m has got people foaming at the mouth, but remember we got Lindsay, way younger and with great potential, for only 2m.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 8, 2019 13:50:43 GMT
Contracted for only one more season. Clearly surplus to requirements £3 million actually is a good fee if we have got it. we are absolute mugs when it comes to transfers. if it was 6/7m i'd say fair enough in this day and age. 3m is still far too low. I'm sure Scholes realises this is low, as didn't we pay 12m for Berahino with 5 months left on his contract!? WBA would have been entitled to compensation for Berahino come that summer though. I just can't see how we could have demanded anything more than nominal, when all potential buyers know what our game is. We'd completely exiled him from the squad - you can't get more of a signal than that - and they know, however much we can reject a bid, we've in reality got no intention of keeping him as we want to shift his million quid plus wages. And he probably wanted to stay in Cheshire - and with PSV and Amiens signing left-backs last week, options were thinning fast So they can go dirt low with the bid knowing that at worst he'll be available on loan in a fortnight and we really want to shift him permanently for whatever we can get.
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Post by cousindupree on Jul 8, 2019 13:52:46 GMT
I'd still guess at closer to £1m. We had no leverage at all, did we? We'd shown our hand and were basically begging someone to take his wages off us - and if he was still here in a fortnight, he would have had to spend his last year under contract out on loan One thing is for certain now though if we don’t buy in a better left back before the window closes the cynics will be all over Nath! Why would it be cynical to criticise Jones or Nath as you call him if he starts the season with a 34 year old playing LWB or god forbid McClean or Clucas as first choice in a crucial position. You you be happy if no other LB was signed?
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Post by Davef on Jul 8, 2019 13:52:52 GMT
If you're moaning at getting £3M for Erik Pieters, it's time to take your head for a jolly good wobble.
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Post by jarhead on Jul 8, 2019 13:53:05 GMT
They really do want to get relegated! Thanks Erik but let’s be honest you were fuckin wank after you signed a contract!
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 8, 2019 13:53:30 GMT
Cracking deal struck by the club last night, Tony is most certainly on the lash for the next 24 hours (at least)
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 8, 2019 13:56:29 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 8, 2019 13:58:10 GMT
Good luck Ekker.
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Post by Goonie on Jul 8, 2019 14:01:08 GMT
Au revoir and bon voyage
Good lad sorry to see you go 👍
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jul 8, 2019 14:04:08 GMT
Good move for him but I am sorry to see him go. I met him the day after we lost at home to Liverpool two seasons ago and was struck by how honest he was about his and the team's performance but also how much he felt it. He came across as being really committed to doing the best he could for the club. Wont be easier to replace him with better in my view
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Post by neddy on Jul 8, 2019 14:17:39 GMT
One thing is for certain now though if we don’t buy in a better left back before the window closes the cynics will be all over Nath! Why would it be cynical to criticise Jones or Nath as you call him if he starts the season with a 34 year old playing LWB or god forbid McClean or Clucas as first choice in a crucial position. You you be happy if no other LB was signed? I agree that is what I am saying they have to get someone in or they will be deservedly crucified?
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Post by sneydgreenstokie1 on Jul 8, 2019 14:23:35 GMT
I think an initial 1m is a good fee. Hope he gets a few games for the Clarets this year.
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 8, 2019 14:28:48 GMT
How about a Thank You for Erik?
Did well for us for the most part.
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Post by waffles on Jul 8, 2019 14:33:07 GMT
Ok,thank you Erik.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 8, 2019 14:38:58 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 8, 2019 14:48:14 GMT
A million is what I expected, people should realise that the main issue is getting these players off the wage bill and if there's a chance of some money back in return it's a bonus.
It's sad but that's the way it is.
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Post by toppercorner on Jul 8, 2019 14:58:31 GMT
we are absolute mugs when it comes to transfers. if it was 6/7m i'd say fair enough in this day and age. 3m is still far too low. I'm sure Scholes realises this is low, as didn't we pay 12m for Berahino with 5 months left on his contract!? WBA would have been entitled to compensation for Berahino come that summer though. I just can't see how we could have demanded anything more than nominal, when all potential buyers know what our game is. We'd completely exiled him from the squad - you can't get more of a signal than that - and they know, however much we can reject a bid, we've in reality got no intention of keeping him as we want to shift his million quid plus wages. And he probably wanted to stay in Cheshire - and with PSV and Amiens signing left-backs last week, options were thinning fast So they can go dirt low with the bid knowing that at worst he'll be available on loan in a fortnight and we really want to shift him permanently for whatever we can get. as I say, we are mugs, and the rest of the football know we're mugs, due to our consistent incompetence regarding any transfer. we should have kept something in house and then played a bit more hardball, other teams seem to be able to do it.
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 8, 2019 15:08:29 GMT
Best of luck to him and thanks for all his service since he arrived.
I see Eric's career at Stoke in two halves:
He arrived as Hughes first signing filling the void at LB and being a major contributor to Stoke achieving three 9th places. He was a very sound defender but lacking going forward. Had he been any better he would not have been at Stoke.
He signed a contract extension 4 years ago and that seemed to trigger his and Stoke's demise. Maybe giving him a contract for 5 years to 2020 caused him to relax and lose his "hunger", plus he had lack of competition for his place. He immediately hit a poor run of form, but did recover and played well regularly but not consistently. The opposite side FBs were probably more culpable than him but all our defenders were guilty for the numerous 4 goal defeats. His form under Rowett left a lot to be desired, particularly the first couple of months.
Despite protestions by some I think Jones was right to start the rebuild process as soon as he arrived, letting go and stopping using older players, even if results did not improve. By August 2020 we will have virtually a completely new squad and will be well set for promotion in 2021.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 8, 2019 15:19:27 GMT
A million is a joke.
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Post by wearepremierleague on Jul 8, 2019 15:19:43 GMT
We paid 6m for McClean. But are willing to sell Bojan and Pieters for 1m a piece. We do really get the piss taken out of us when it comes to transfers
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