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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 21:05:04 GMT
At the interest of fairplay I assume all Stokies will say exactly the same as me...
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Apr 12, 2019 8:16:30 GMT
Eh? When did that happen? At the exact situation that got him the second yellow (which should have been straight red). You can't see it from one angle, where it looks innocous, but if you look at the video at the scfc site from another angle you can see Tom throwing his punch. It wasn't the greatest of punches, but it did the job. I don't think the ref saw it at all. He just reacted to the noise coming from the stands and the Swansea player's moaning. I must confess I haven't seen that angle but you can't be the only one who has, yet you appear to be the only one who's mentioned a 'punch'. From what I could see from various replays was that Edwards got caught out and was slow to react to James pushing the ball past him and put his arm up to block him. There was a flailing arm but no punch. Do you honestly think that if James had been hit with an arm anywhere near his head, let alone punched, he wouldn't have rolled round for half an hour holding his face like he'd been hit by Anthony Joshua? He was doing it all game for way less than a 'punch' but in this instance he was up immediately appealing to the ref to get Edwards carded and sent off. PS the useless official site won't let me register for some reason so I can't view the video angle you're talking about.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 9:15:48 GMT
At the exact situation that got him the second yellow (which should have been straight red). You can't see it from one angle, where it looks innocous, but if you look at the video at the scfc site from another angle you can see Tom throwing his punch. It wasn't the greatest of punches, but it did the job. I don't think the ref saw it at all. He just reacted to the noise coming from the stands and the Swansea player's moaning. I must confess I haven't seen that angle but you can't be the only one who has, yet you appear to be the only one who's mentioned a 'punch'. From what I could see from various replays was that Edwards got caught out and was slow to react to James pushing the ball past him and put his arm up to block him. There was a flailing arm but no punch. Do you honestly think that if James had been hit with an arm anywhere near his head, let alone punched, he wouldn't have rolled round for half an hour holding his face like he'd been hit by Anthony Joshua? He was doing it all game for way less than a 'punch' but in this instance he was up immediately appealing to the ref to get Edwards carded and sent off. PS the useless official site won't let me register for some reason so I can't view the video angle you're talking about. Flailing arm or punch, it's a straight red. I agree James made the most of it all game, but in this instance he was right.
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Post by kelw on Apr 12, 2019 9:32:04 GMT
At the exact situation that got him the second yellow (which should have been straight red). You can't see it from one angle, where it looks innocous, but if you look at the video at the scfc site from another angle you can see Tom throwing his punch. It wasn't the greatest of punches, but it did the job. I don't think the ref saw it at all. He just reacted to the noise coming from the stands and the Swansea player's moaning. I must confess I haven't seen that angle but you can't be the only one who has, yet you appear to be the only one who's mentioned a 'punch'. From what I could see from various replays was that Edwards got caught out and was slow to react to James pushing the ball past him and put his arm up to block him. There was a flailing arm but no punch. Do you honestly think that if James had been hit with an arm anywhere near his head, let alone punched, he wouldn't have rolled round for half an hour holding his face like he'd been hit by Anthony Joshua? He was doing it all game for way less than a 'punch' but in this instance he was up immediately appealing to the ref to get Edwards carded and sent off. PS the useless official site won't let me register for some reason so I can't view the video angle you're talking about. He completely did Edwards and was a red. Was no punch, an arm across him to try and block the run and Edwards had to go
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Post by baltipiesmuggler on Apr 12, 2019 9:34:09 GMT
BMIs is never a red. He doesnt deny a clear goal scoring opportunity. It's not dangerous play. We have cover. An absolute nonsense.
Cant agree on Edwards though. He's on a yellow, gets done for pace and clumsily brings the lad down. It's not nasty, but it's a second yellow.
It'll probably serve as a decent lesson for the lad.
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Post by toppercorner on Apr 12, 2019 9:42:19 GMT
not sure how i feel about Bruno's red being rescinded.
I was expecting that talentless idiot Clucas to fill in at left back whilst Bruno was suspended - now Nath id free to plonk him in midfield again to fuck things up a bit more
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Post by thebet365 on Apr 12, 2019 9:42:56 GMT
I must confess I haven't seen that angle but you can't be the only one who has, yet you appear to be the only one who's mentioned a 'punch'. From what I could see from various replays was that Edwards got caught out and was slow to react to James pushing the ball past him and put his arm up to block him. There was a flailing arm but no punch. Do you honestly think that if James had been hit with an arm anywhere near his head, let alone punched, he wouldn't have rolled round for half an hour holding his face like he'd been hit by Anthony Joshua? He was doing it all game for way less than a 'punch' but in this instance he was up immediately appealing to the ref to get Edwards carded and sent off. PS the useless official site won't let me register for some reason so I can't view the video angle you're talking about. Flailing arm or punch, it's a straight red. I agree James made the most of it all game, but in this instance he was right. It wasn't any such thing, he put his arm out to prevent James from running past, 2nd Yellow for blatant obstruction that was all it was. It happens week in week out when faster players have the better of their opponents.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Apr 12, 2019 10:43:01 GMT
I must confess I haven't seen that angle but you can't be the only one who has, yet you appear to be the only one who's mentioned a 'punch'. From what I could see from various replays was that Edwards got caught out and was slow to react to James pushing the ball past him and put his arm up to block him. There was a flailing arm but no punch. Do you honestly think that if James had been hit with an arm anywhere near his head, let alone punched, he wouldn't have rolled round for half an hour holding his face like he'd been hit by Anthony Joshua? He was doing it all game for way less than a 'punch' but in this instance he was up immediately appealing to the ref to get Edwards carded and sent off. PS the useless official site won't let me register for some reason so I can't view the video angle you're talking about. Flailing arm or punch, it's a straight red. I agree James made the most of it all game, but in this instance he was right. Bit like the flailing arm Smalling put straight into Messi's face smashing his nose and cutting his eye? That was a straight red too....oh hang on, not even a foul. I'm not saying it possibly wasn't a second yellow (although James absolutely milked it along with all the others) but it clearly wasn't a punch and it wasn't a straight red.
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Post by pottersrule on Apr 12, 2019 12:28:58 GMT
Eh? When did that happen? At the exact situation that got him the second yellow (which should have been straight red). You can't see it from one angle, where it looks innocous, but if you look at the video at the scfc site from another angle you can see Tom throwing his punch. It wasn't the greatest of punches, but it did the job. I don't think the ref saw it at all. He just reacted to the noise coming from the stands and the Swansea player's moaning. He obviously didn't see it or it would have been a straight red card.He did what he had been doing all night and sided with the baying crowd. This guy was a homer from start to finish.The Swansea players sensed it and threw themselves down at any contact.Fuckin pathetic ref to match our pathetic performance.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 12:52:08 GMT
Flailing arm or punch, it's a straight red. I agree James made the most of it all game, but in this instance he was right. It wasn't any such thing, he put his arm out to prevent James from running past, 2nd Yellow for blatant obstruction that was all it was. It happens week in week out when faster players have the better of their opponents. As it said from one angle it looks innocous, from another it doesn't. An flailing arm out is not enough in itself to cause obstruction, so then it would be a dive from James and he should be given a yellow! It clearly isn't here (maybe in other situations as he spent quite some time falling during the game). Unless the arm is thrown out deliberately to cause harm. If it's deliberate, it's a direct red.
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