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Post by stokiejoe on Apr 11, 2019 16:17:17 GMT
Happy to have called that wrong, thought it was a red for certain but delighted the appeal was successful
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Post by franklin66 on Apr 11, 2019 16:17:36 GMT
Well a ref who has shown NO red cards all season sends two Stoke players off both inho were nonesence has it overturned rightly too. I love a conspiracy he did it deliberately because we are Stoke.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 11, 2019 16:25:07 GMT
Well a ref who has shown NO red cards all season sends two Stoke players off both inho were nonesence has it overturned rightly too. I love a conspiracy he did it deliberately because we are Stoke. Yep, part of the vicious plot to stop us finishing 13th.
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 11, 2019 16:25:34 GMT
I thought it was very, very harsh at the time - but surprised the FA have overturned it. Hope it doesn't mean we see Clucas and McClean both play further forward!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 11, 2019 16:29:18 GMT
Crazy decision. He was an appalling ref who just wanted to give the home crowd everything they wanted Not said much about the ref,because would sound like sour grapes and we were well off the pace.He was though fuckin pathetic and gave Swansea absolutely everything.The crowd completely intimidated him,and bayed for a foul every time we made a tackle.Gave us fuck all,a complete homer.Would love to see what score he was given by each team.Swansea 9 Stoke 3? I said it myself at the time and got castigated but thought he was a real homer.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 16:38:39 GMT
Not said much about the ref,because would sound like sour grapes and we were well off the pace.He was though fuckin pathetic and gave Swansea absolutely everything.The crowd completely intimidated him,and bayed for a foul every time we made a tackle.Gave us fuck all,a complete homer.Would love to see what score he was given by each team.Swansea 9 Stoke 3? I said it myself at the time and got castigated but thought he was a real homer. You are right he was a homer, but sadly anything remotely moving towards that argument is detracting from the real issue the other night, namely the performance of the players, which was pitiful with 11 men.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Apr 11, 2019 16:43:04 GMT
Shit decision at the time really, he knocked it past Bruno towards the centre of the pitch not towards the goal and Clucas was moving to that area. Doens't matter if he was last man, you can be last man when you foul someone by the corner flag, doesn't mean it's a clear goalscoring opportunity.
Glad we've got Bruno back.
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Post by OldStokie on Apr 11, 2019 17:03:00 GMT
It was blatent obstruction (now an obsolete term and is known as 'Impeding the progress of an opponent'), and given where it was, it deserved a yellow card and an indirect free kick and no more. It was a shocking decision. And I'm pretty sure had the foul by Tom Edwards been against any player other than James, that was not a yellow card either that caused him to be sent off. I don't blame referees for protecting young players but not at the expense of crippling the opposition for two instances of impeding the progress of an opponent. Cards are for nasty stuff and not impeding the progress of an opponent, which is deemed a minor offence in nogger. The ref was utter garbage, but he's no different than most refs who bring out cards like confetti these days. You can always tell a good ref from a bad one... you hardly ever notice a good ref.
I still think we would have lost, but that's not relevant. With 9 men and half an hour to go we had no chance of scraping anything from that game.
OS.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Apr 11, 2019 17:18:10 GMT
I thought it was a harsh red but I'm surprised it was overturned as it wasn't a clear cut error, more a matter of interpretation. Edwards second booking was fair enough.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 17:26:06 GMT
It was a thoroughly scandalous decision. I can't believe some people on here think it was a red.
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Post by sportsman on Apr 11, 2019 17:35:48 GMT
I dont think it was a red but glad it was. I'd make it a 6 game ban. Anything to stop us fielding big, slow, useless on the ball defenders.
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Post by OldStokie on Apr 11, 2019 17:50:20 GMT
I dont think it was a red but glad it was. I'd make it a 6 game ban. Anything to stop us fielding big, slow, useless on the ball defenders. So Bruno wasn't in the defence that saw us not conceding a goal for 6 games? OS.
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Post by lordb on Apr 11, 2019 17:56:59 GMT
Proper unfair that we just have to take the points loss from a wrong decision like that. I know we were shite anyway but that’s not the point Mmm Ok maybe we had a semblance of sneaking a point at that stage however overall we deserved nothing from that game.
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Post by sportsman on Apr 11, 2019 17:59:32 GMT
I dont think it was a red but glad it was. I'd make it a 6 game ban. Anything to stop us fielding big, slow, useless on the ball defenders. So Bruno wasn't in the defence that saw us not conceding a goal for 6 games? OS. I dont care if he was. He cant pass, cross, has the turning circle of an ocean liner, slow. Anything else? I'm sick of us having big, slow, cant pass, useless defenders for years and years now.
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Post by lordb on Apr 11, 2019 18:03:38 GMT
So Bruno wasn't in the defence that saw us not conceding a goal for 6 games? OS. I dont care if he was. He cant pass, cross, has the turning circle of an ocean liner, slow. Anything else? I'm sick of us having big, slow, cant pass, useless defenders for years and years now. He's the fastest centre back we have
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Apr 11, 2019 18:08:32 GMT
I dont care if he was. He cant pass, cross, has the turning circle of an ocean liner, slow. Anything else? I'm sick of us having big, slow, cant pass, useless defenders for years and years now. He's the fastest centre back we have Quite alarming isn’t it. Especially when you consider Martins Indi has the same top speed as tomato sauce being poured out of a glass bottle.
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Post by cousindupree on Apr 11, 2019 18:18:06 GMT
It was a poor decision made by a pretty inept ref, The big worry for me however is that I was hoping Clucas would have been at left back. Now there is every chance that NJ will pick his favourite in a No 10 role again! Not sure which of Jones's tactical masterstrokes has been the most bat shit... Clucas as a No 10 Afobe on the right wing McClean up top as a front 2 Shawcross up front
Answers on a postcard...or no doubt now it's answers to #batshitmoments
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Post by sportsman on Apr 11, 2019 18:30:43 GMT
I dont care if he was. He cant pass, cross, has the turning circle of an ocean liner, slow. Anything else? I'm sick of us having big, slow, cant pass, useless defenders for years and years now. He's the fastest centre back we have Poor, poor recruitment for years. Big, slow defenders seems to be the scouting brief.
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Post by lordb on Apr 11, 2019 18:37:41 GMT
He's the fastest centre back we have Quite alarming isn’t it. Especially when you consider Martins Indi has the same top speed as tomato sauce being poured out of a glass bottle. There is that
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Post by kjpt140v on Apr 11, 2019 18:44:52 GMT
Surprised it was overturned, pleased though.
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Post by kjpt140v on Apr 11, 2019 18:47:01 GMT
It was a poor decision made by a pretty inept ref, The big worry for me however is that I was hoping Clucas would have been at left back. Now there is every chance that NJ will pick his favourite in a No 10 role again! Not sure which of Jones's tactical masterstrokes has been the most bat shit... Clucas as a No 10 Afobe on the right wing McClean up top as a front 2 Shawcross up front Answers on a postcard...or no doubt now it's answers to #batshitmoments I love these so called supporters not having a clue about what's going on.
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Post by adamsson on Apr 11, 2019 18:53:18 GMT
Unbelievable Geoff!
Stoke city get red card overturned is this the first time ever?
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Post by thehoof on Apr 11, 2019 19:02:03 GMT
I dont care if he was. He cant pass, cross, has the turning circle of an ocean liner, slow. Anything else? I'm sick of us having big, slow, cant pass, useless defenders for years and years now. He's the fastest centre back we have I’m not sure about that- he has very little pace and I think over 20 yards there wouldn’t be much between any of our Centre Halves.
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 11, 2019 19:42:18 GMT
Proper unfair that we just have to take the points loss from a wrong decision like that. I know we were shite anyway but that’s not the point Mmm Ok maybe we had a semblance of sneaking a point at that stage however overall we deserved nothing from that game. Well... exactly. You’re making my point - “overall” has nothing to do with it because that incorporates almost half the game when we were unfairly down on numbers.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 19:55:54 GMT
It was blatent obstruction (now an obsolete term and is known as 'Impeding the progress of an opponent'), and given where it was, it deserved a yellow card and an indirect free kick and no more. It was a shocking decision. And I'm pretty sure had the foul by Tom Edwards been against any player other than James, that was not a yellow card either that caused him to be sent off. I don't blame referees for protecting young players but not at the expense of crippling the opposition for two instances of impeding the progress of an opponent. Cards are for nasty stuff and not impeding the progress of an opponent, which is deemed a minor offence in nogger. The ref was utter garbage, but he's no different than most refs who bring out cards like confetti these days. You can always tell a good ref from a bad one... you hardly ever notice a good ref. I still think we would have lost, but that's not relevant. With 9 men and half an hour to go we had no chance of scraping anything from that game. OS. Tom threw a punch at the throat of the Swansea player. It should have been a straight red, which would have brought a three match suspension. He's very lucky to have escaped with just one match.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 20:01:51 GMT
It was blatent obstruction (now an obsolete term and is known as 'Impeding the progress of an opponent'), and given where it was, it deserved a yellow card and an indirect free kick and no more. It was a shocking decision. And I'm pretty sure had the foul by Tom Edwards been against any player other than James, that was not a yellow card either that caused him to be sent off. I don't blame referees for protecting young players but not at the expense of crippling the opposition for two instances of impeding the progress of an opponent. Cards are for nasty stuff and not impeding the progress of an opponent, which is deemed a minor offence in nogger. The ref was utter garbage, but he's no different than most refs who bring out cards like confetti these days. You can always tell a good ref from a bad one... you hardly ever notice a good ref. I still think we would have lost, but that's not relevant. With 9 men and half an hour to go we had no chance of scraping anything from that game. OS. Tom threw a punch at the throat of the Swansea player. It should have been a straight red, which would have brought a three match suspension. He's very lucky to have escaped with just one match. Eh? When did that happen?
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Apr 11, 2019 20:02:48 GMT
I dont care if he was. He cant pass, cross, has the turning circle of an ocean liner, slow. Anything else? I'm sick of us having big, slow, cant pass, useless defenders for years and years now. He's the fastest centre back we have Is that an actual fact or from your observation? Because from my observation the only defender slower than him is Williams and I wouldn't have him anywhere near the squad. I might be wrong.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Apr 11, 2019 20:05:45 GMT
Straight red for stopping a player going through on a clear goalscoring chance.... I thought they'd stopped all that bollox when Mignolet brought Diouf down??? 🤔
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 20:56:42 GMT
Tom threw a punch at the throat of the Swansea player. It should have been a straight red, which would have brought a three match suspension. He's very lucky to have escaped with just one match. Eh? When did that happen? At the exact situation that got him the second yellow (which should have been straight red). You can't see it from one angle, where it looks innocous, but if you look at the video at the scfc site from another angle you can see Tom throwing his punch. It wasn't the greatest of punches, but it did the job. I don't think the ref saw it at all. He just reacted to the noise coming from the stands and the Swansea player's moaning.
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Post by adi on Apr 11, 2019 21:02:25 GMT
Glad that it has been overturned, and glad that some oatcake posters aren’t on the committee!!! 😂
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