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Post by slicko on Apr 5, 2019 19:52:58 GMT
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Post by onyourbonce on Apr 5, 2019 20:00:07 GMT
He probably isn’t a bad guy, but he came into stoke with a massive chip on his shoulder n went about it as if we owed him something for quitting derby to come here. Doubt many stoke fans really give a toss about him tbh
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Post by PotteringThrough on Apr 5, 2019 20:00:24 GMT
Not me, I've made my mind up and I'll never forgive him - the north (stand, now boothen) remembers!
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Apr 5, 2019 20:06:04 GMT
Personal level - nothing wrong with the bloke.
Footballing level - complete sphincter.
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Post by adamsson on Apr 5, 2019 20:06:48 GMT
I have better things to do what happens (in less than 20 words)
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Post by slicko on Apr 5, 2019 20:09:02 GMT
Reserve some judgement until you’ve listened to it.
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Post by slicko on Apr 5, 2019 20:11:58 GMT
I have better things to do what happens (in less than 20 words) We all have better things to do but I’ll try and help a lethargic fellow supporter. Has his team with him in the podcast. They give their reasoning for the decisions they made. |
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Post by Veritas on Apr 5, 2019 20:40:00 GMT
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Post by thehoof on Apr 5, 2019 20:48:09 GMT
Whatever the reasoning, the following is true ;
Afobe -£12m ; clearly can’t play as a lone striker and that’s all Rowett used him as; end result he’s been crap.
Ince-£13m, the classic Mr. Inconsistent but supposedly a difference maker: better players available (Lolly) for probably half the price?
McLean -£6m; is he the sort of player that will differentiate us from any other team in the league in a footballing sense?
Woods-£6m ; started well and under Rowett got worse and worse- was it the manager or is it the player; either way it doesn’t look a great signing does it?
Clucas -£6m, why buy both Clucas and Woods surely you only need one of this type of player?
Martina- Edwards is developing into a real talent, yet we had to suffer that clown for over 20 games?
I hope that this explains why GR will stay lower than Shark’s droppings in my estimation.
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Post by norman conquest on Apr 5, 2019 20:53:15 GMT
Not me, I've made my mind up and I'll never forgive him - the north (stand, now boothen) remembers! I see what you did there 14 4 19 |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2019 21:08:52 GMT
He's the worst manager we've had in my lifetime.
He had a premier league squad, he was given the biggest budget in the league by a country mile. No manager in the championship has ever been backed like that, and he absolutely fucked it up.
He's a fucking moron and has no business calling himself a football manager
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Post by lordb on Apr 5, 2019 21:23:22 GMT
He's the worst manager we've had in my lifetime. He had a premier league squad, he was given the biggest budget in the league by a country mile. No manager in the championship has ever been backed like that, and he absolutely fucked it up. He's a fucking moron and has no business calling himself a football manager He definitely failed but surely Alan Ball,Brian Little,Chic Bates all worse. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2019 21:28:16 GMT
He's the worst manager we've had in my lifetime. He had a premier league squad, he was given the biggest budget in the league by a country mile. No manager in the championship has ever been backed like that, and he absolutely fucked it up. He's a fucking moron and has no business calling himself a football manager He definitely failed but surely Alan Ball,Brian Little,Chic Bates all worse. Add Chris Kamara to that list as well. Glasgow was one of the many on here who was on Rowetts back before a ball was even kicked in anger so I wouldn't take anything he says about him with anything other than a bucket load of salt. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2019 21:51:43 GMT
I have no beef with him as a person, as I've said many times pressure does funny things to people and by his own admission he said and did some daft things in his time at Stoke.
But he spent a lot of money on a disjointed rabble that appeared to be heading nowhere, it was only ever going to end in tears when he started pissing off the majority of the fan base.....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2019 21:52:44 GMT
He's always spoke well. Sadly what he put into action here was complete pony. Spent a boatload of money on players we either didn't need, confused things more than they were, were just no better than what we had and frankly just didn't fit the system he wanted to play from day one.
He gave great reasoning for wanting to play the way he did, with the 4-3-3 then proceeded to buy players that just didn't fit into it.
Jones already has made two signings Rowett needed to make. A strong centre half that was used to this league, and not another over the hill Premier League loanee. A strong centre forward. Both with a pedigree of achieving in this division. Both big, steady characters.
Rowett saw the transfer market pound signs and lost his head like a spotty teenager does when he's playing Football Manager, chucked a load of blind darts at a dart board then sat scratching his head wondering just what the hell he was supposed to do when he found out his dog was walking round like a real life pin cushion.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Apr 5, 2019 22:10:04 GMT
He's the worst manager we've had in my lifetime. He had a premier league squad, he was given the biggest budget in the league by a country mile. No manager in the championship has ever been backed like that, and he absolutely fucked it up. He's a fucking moron and has no business calling himself a football manager Are you 12? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2019 22:41:45 GMT
He's always spoke well. Sadly what he put into action here was complete pony. Spent a boatload of money on players we either didn't need, confused things more than they were, were just no better than what we had and frankly just didn't fit the system he wanted to play from day one. He gave great reasoning for wanting to play the way he did, with the 4-3-3 then proceeded to buy players that just didn't fit into it. Jones already has made two signings Rowett needed to make. A strong centre half that was used to this league, and not another over the hill Premier League loanee. A strong centre forward. Both with a pedigree of achieving in this division. Both big, steady characters. Rowett saw the transfer market pound signs and lost his head like a spotty teenager does when he's playing Football Manager, chucked a load of blind darts at a dart board then sat scratching his head wondering just what the hell he was supposed to do when he found out his dog was walking round like a real life pin cushion. "Both with a pedigree of achieving in this division" Afobe and Williams both have previously ripped this division to bits also. Add to that Tom Ince who also has a great record in this league, Woods who was one of last season's best teams player of the season and its easy to see why he signed those players. There are bigger issues behind the scenes at our club than the players Rowett bought in and I still firmly believe that if he hadn't have cracked under the pressure He would have sorted this squad out and turned us into a force in this division. Let's be honest here and say that Rowett was on a bit of a hiding to nothing really because whatever has been said on here, down at the ground the wolves were at the door from the very start of the season as most expected a swift return back to the premier league, and once we started slowly the crowd were on his and the players backs from the start. This in my opinion is why he lost his head and couldn't handle the pressure. Jones will feel the same heat next season after he's had a bucket full of money to spend if we don't start well, and in my opinion it's far too early to judge whether he's the man who can sort out the mess we are in behind the scenes, because as far as I'm concerned we are no better a side now than what we were under Gary Rowett. |
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Post by blackpoolred on Apr 5, 2019 22:46:07 GMT
Best manager we have had for a while and 1 of the few managers capable of keeping the squad he inherited in this divison.
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Post by generationex on Apr 5, 2019 23:01:11 GMT
I don’t think he will join the long list of “Stoke City managers whose last job in professional football was a manager of Stoke City”.
He will probably just about avoid the ignominy of Asprey, Mills, Ball,Little, Kamara, Hughes etc.
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Post by bathstoke on Apr 5, 2019 23:06:08 GMT
Best manager we have had for a while and 1 of the few managers capable of keeping the squad he inherited in this divison. Well that's damming with faint praise... |
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Post by tony1234 on Apr 5, 2019 23:12:24 GMT
Arrested the decline which could have seen us slip through this division as well
Bad transfer deals overall.
Bad football
Previous record was decent though across 3 clubs, so he can't be completely useless.
Got too much to spend at Stoke, made him dizzy, and he fell over in his own puddle.
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 5, 2019 23:28:17 GMT
Funny people saying he was alright as a bloke.. I found him intensely irritating and snide, as well as being an absolute charlatan of a football manager.
I couldn’t listen to more than the first line when he opened his mouth in that.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Apr 6, 2019 0:26:09 GMT
He's highly trained in media relations and talks a great game but is sadly lacking when it actually comes to football management at a decent level.
He's possibly the biggest cunt that has ever managed our club, don't let him fool you again.
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Post by werrington on Apr 6, 2019 5:19:41 GMT
I liked rowett and think eventually he may of got us there but once you take on the support you’re finished ....and he did several times
Bolton away finished him
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Post by santy on Apr 6, 2019 5:31:28 GMT
I only ever really made judgements on the bloke based as a manager. Nothing can therefore really make him go up in my estimations.
You don't judge a fish on its ability to climb trees. He spoke of an extensive data driven approach, yet it seems like his subscription to Opta only covered 2000-2005 with the football he played. Could've been a massive success as a manager back in that era, but if football was still played so much like that we never would've had to get rid of Hughes in the first place.
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Post by nik80 on Apr 6, 2019 6:05:44 GMT
The most unlikable Stoke manager I can think of since Alan Ball or Joe Jordan. There’s arrogance and then there’s Gary Rowett.
Faux humility doesn’t redeem the cunt in my opinion.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 6, 2019 7:26:34 GMT
He's always spoke well. Sadly what he put into action here was complete pony. Spent a boatload of money on players we either didn't need, confused things more than they were, were just no better than what we had and frankly just didn't fit the system he wanted to play from day one. He gave great reasoning for wanting to play the way he did, with the 4-3-3 then proceeded to buy players that just didn't fit into it. Jones already has made two signings Rowett needed to make. A strong centre half that was used to this league, and not another over the hill Premier League loanee. A strong centre forward. Both with a pedigree of achieving in this division. Both big, steady characters. Rowett saw the transfer market pound signs and lost his head like a spotty teenager does when he's playing Football Manager, chucked a load of blind darts at a dart board then sat scratching his head wondering just what the hell he was supposed to do when he found out his dog was walking round like a real life pin cushion. "Both with a pedigree of achieving in this division" Afobe and Williams both have previously ripped this division to bits also. Add to that Tom Ince who also has a great record in this league, Woods who was one of last season's best teams player of the season and its easy to see why he signed those players. There are bigger issues behind the scenes at our club than the players Rowett bought in and I still firmly believe that if he hadn't have cracked under the pressure He would have sorted this squad out and turned us into a force in this division. Let's be honest here and say that Rowett was on a bit of a hiding to nothing really because whatever has been said on here, down at the ground the wolves were at the door from the very start of the season as most expected a swift return back to the premier league, and once we started slowly the crowd were on his and the players backs from the start. This in my opinion is why he lost his head and couldn't handle the pressure. Jones will feel the same heat next season after he's had a bucket full of money to spend if we don't start well, and in my opinion it's far too early to judge whether he's the man who can sort out the mess we are in behind the scenes, because as far as I'm concerned we are no better a side now than what we were under Gary Rowett. Rowett wasn’t on a hiding to nothing at all, he had a sandpit to play in financially and made a complete mess of it. His top targets didn’t fit the system he wanted to play, he completely neglected qualities like pace and creativity and key areas of the side like left back or a proper DM. As a man, he claimed to take responsibility for everything but actually took responsibility for nothing and looked to pass the buck at every opportunity. |
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Post by lordb on Apr 6, 2019 7:34:21 GMT
The most unlikable Stoke manager I can think of since Alan Ball or Joe Jordan. There’s arragance and then there’s Gary Rowett. Faux humility doesn’t redeem the cunt in my opinion. Alan Ball was a great guy,very genuine. Just happened to be the worst manager ever. Only manager to have been relegated from all 4 divisions. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 6, 2019 7:38:30 GMT
"Both with a pedigree of achieving in this division" Afobe and Williams both have previously ripped this division to bits also. Add to that Tom Ince who also has a great record in this league, Woods who was one of last season's best teams player of the season and its easy to see why he signed those players. There are bigger issues behind the scenes at our club than the players Rowett bought in and I still firmly believe that if he hadn't have cracked under the pressure He would have sorted this squad out and turned us into a force in this division. Let's be honest here and say that Rowett was on a bit of a hiding to nothing really because whatever has been said on here, down at the ground the wolves were at the door from the very start of the season as most expected a swift return back to the premier league, and once we started slowly the crowd were on his and the players backs from the start. This in my opinion is why he lost his head and couldn't handle the pressure. Jones will feel the same heat next season after he's had a bucket full of money to spend if we don't start well, and in my opinion it's far too early to judge whether he's the man who can sort out the mess we are in behind the scenes, because as far as I'm concerned we are no better a side now than what we were under Gary Rowett. Rowett wasn’t on a hiding to nothing at all, he had a sandpit to play in financially and made a complete mess of it. His top targets didn’t fit the system he wanted to play, he completely neglected qualities like pace and creativity and key areas of the side like left back or a proper DM. As a man, he claimed to take responsibility for everything but actually took responsibility for nothing and looked to pass the buck at every opportunity. Our left back was our best player under rowett. Perhaps he felt he didn't need a left back? |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 6, 2019 7:42:23 GMT
Rowett wasn’t on a hiding to nothing at all, he had a sandpit to play in financially and made a complete mess of it. His top targets didn’t fit the system he wanted to play, he completely neglected qualities like pace and creativity and key areas of the side like left back or a proper DM. As a man, he claimed to take responsibility for everything but actually took responsibility for nothing and looked to pass the buck at every opportunity. Our left back was our best player under rowett. Perhaps he felt he didn't need a left back? I don’t agree with that for a start Dave (and neither did Rowett, who dropped him more than once). You need proper competition in all areas though don’t you? He had no cause to moan about his defence when he signed a right back we didn’t need and neglected to sign a left back when the only cover was Tymon. |
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