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Post by leicspotter on Oct 25, 2021 10:25:14 GMT
I think more worrying was the dire performance of Luke Shaw, and almost as bad, Harry McGuire...two England regulars made to look like schoolboys chasing a tennis ball. Is that down to the manager or were they just shite?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 25, 2021 10:31:19 GMT
I think more worrying was the dire performance of Luke Shaw, and almost as bad, Harry McGuire...two England regulars made to look like schoolboys chasing a tennis ball. Is that down to the manager or were they just shite? Has Maguire ever looked good out of a back 3?
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Post by leicspotter on Oct 25, 2021 10:40:21 GMT
I think more worrying was the dire performance of Luke Shaw, and almost as bad, Harry McGuire...two England regulars made to look like schoolboys chasing a tennis ball. Is that down to the manager or were they just shite? Has Maguire ever looked good out of a back 3? Personally never rated him in any position...but then I didn't rate van Dyke, so what do I know Shaw just seemed intent on getting in the way and was awol for at least 3 of their goals...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2021 10:40:31 GMT
One of football's nice guys but a surprise choice for such a big job. Along with Ranieri, possibly the most likeable manager about for me.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 25, 2021 10:58:18 GMT
He's had jobs at clubs in the UK with little money to spend and failed,he is in a job where he can buy some of the best players in the world and is failing,that to me says he aint got what it takes.
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Post by noustie on Oct 25, 2021 11:22:36 GMT
It reminded me a bit of our diamond days where the top three never bothered their arses coming back so could drive a tank through midfield. Same thing happened to Germany when their front three didn't track back at all v Spain and got spanked 6-0.
Fred and McTominay aren't world beaters but you could have had Kante and Kante in there yesterday and him and his clone would've been breathing out their arse covering the spaces popping up all over the shop. TAA and Robertson must have been absolutely pissing themselves at the freedom they had.
Funny as fuck really when they were giving it the big 'un Ronaldo was the missing peice of the jigsaw just over a month back.
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Post by marwood on Oct 25, 2021 12:00:25 GMT
It's been a tough gig ever since Ferguson retired. It didn't work put for David Moyes and now he is tearing it up at West Ham. Moyes is a decent manger and looked like a solid but uninspiring choice at the time, probably should’ve been given more time and he may have done alright. Solskjaer never had the credentials as a manager in the first place, it is mental he was given the job. Attachment Deleted
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Post by thevoid on Oct 25, 2021 12:11:49 GMT
Would Real Madrid or Barca have employed a bloke who was sacked by Cardiff?
Biggest club in the world my arse
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Post by spiderpuss on Oct 25, 2021 12:28:07 GMT
They've been led nicely down the garden path by other clubs. Searching for stars with massive piles of cash. As soon as the shit turn up, the price does as well - great system if you ask me! The said star, who can barely pass wind, turns up to a poor dressing room and a clueless manager. Long may it continue!
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 25, 2021 13:13:59 GMT
Would Real Madrid or Barca have employed a bloke who was sacked by Cardiff? Biggest club in the world my arse No but they’ve both employed managers with no track record at all on the basis they were ex-players, and had success with it. Solskjaer is actually a much more Barca-ish choice than the other managers they’ve appointed since Sralex in that regard. (It’s just he’s useless)
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 25, 2021 13:19:01 GMT
Would Real Madrid or Barca have employed a bloke who was sacked by Cardiff? Biggest club in the world my arse No but they’ve both employed managers with no track record at all on the basis they were ex-players, and had success with it. Solskjaer is actually a much more Barca-ish choice than the other managers they’ve appointed since Sralex in that regard. (It’s just he’s useless) Fucking Pep Guardiola, only managed Barca B in the Spanish 4th division (I think), fucking useless. That said OGS had proven he wasn't good enough with Cardiff. Guardiola got the B team promoted and had a vision.
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Post by maine on Oct 25, 2021 13:47:45 GMT
Barca opted for Koeman!
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Post by kjpt140v on Oct 25, 2021 15:00:47 GMT
As much as i dont like United winning. Cant help but like Solskjaer lol. Just seems a very nice guy always happy smiling has a laugh and a joke. Hope he does ok. Im sure there will be someone on here that says hes a twat. With no real reason. Deserved to get the job. He's not always laughing and joking.
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Post by kjpt140v on Oct 25, 2021 15:02:25 GMT
I don't care.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Oct 25, 2021 15:18:11 GMT
No but they’ve both employed managers with no track record at all on the basis they were ex-players, and had success with it. Solskjaer is actually a much more Barca-ish choice than the other managers they’ve appointed since Sralex in that regard. (It’s just he’s useless) Fucking Pep Guardiola, only managed Barca B in the Spanish 4th division (I think), fucking useless. That said OGS had proven he wasn't good enough with Cardiff. Guardiola got the B team promoted and had a vision. I think the point still stands that Pep has yet to be sacked by Cardiff.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Oct 25, 2021 16:41:34 GMT
As much as i dont like United winning. Cant help but like Solskjaer lol. Just seems a very nice guy always happy smiling has a laugh and a joke. Hope he does ok. Im sure there will be someone on here that says hes a twat. With no real reason. Deserved to get the job. I met him just before the season started through work; and whilst it was a very short interaction he was as nice and polite as any customer I can remember interacting with. Decent bloke, done a steady enough job but needs to go before it gets nasty for him.
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Post by alsagerstokie on Oct 25, 2021 17:23:28 GMT
It all went wrong obviously post Fergie. The job he did it was just impossible to match that. I still wonder what would of happend if Moyes was given more time.
The tested experianced at winning managers didnt work. Van Gaal Mourinho.
Everyone can admit now Solskjaer is out of his depth. Names like Conte are now being mentioned but is he too defensive for Man u.
Pogba is clearly still more trouble than hes worth in my opinion. So they need to fuck him off.
Ronaldo does come with problems because of who he is. You would have him rarther than not have him though.
Sancho clearly isnt working for some reason. De Gea is past it.
Personally ssid it for ages Maguire is overrated.
This is all great by the way.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 25, 2021 17:25:16 GMT
It all went wrong obviously post Fergie. The job he did it was just impossible to match that. I still wonder what would of happend if Moyes was given more time. The tested experianced at winning managers didnt work. Van Gaal Mourinho. Everyone can admit now Solskjaer is out of his depth. Names like Conte are now being mentioned but is he too defensive for Man u. Pogba is clearly still more trouble than hes worth in my opinion. So they need to fuck him off. Ronaldo does come with problems because of who he is. You would have him rarther than not have him though. Sancho clearly isnt working for some reason. De Gea is past it. This is all great by the way. Moyes was out of his depth too. Doing great at West Ham but that’s very much his level. Wonder if they’ll middle through til the end of the season and then make a play for Pochettino, which is who they should’ve appointed instead of Mourinho.
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Post by numpty40 on Oct 25, 2021 17:46:26 GMT
It all went wrong obviously post Fergie. The job he did it was just impossible to match that. I still wonder what would of happend if Moyes was given more time. The tested experianced at winning managers didnt work. Van Gaal Mourinho. Everyone can admit now Solskjaer is out of his depth. Names like Conte are now being mentioned but is he too defensive for Man u. Pogba is clearly still more trouble than hes worth in my opinion. So they need to fuck him off. Ronaldo does come with problems because of who he is. You would have him rarther than not have him though. Sancho clearly isnt working for some reason. De Gea is past it. This is all great by the way. Moyes was out of his depth too. Doing great at West Ham but that’s very much his level. Wonder if they’ll middle through til the end of the season and then make a play for Pochettino, which is who they should’ve appointed instead of Mourinho. I think you're right, hope they don't get him though because I think he's the perfect fit for Man Utd...
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Post by PotteringThrough on Oct 25, 2021 18:30:06 GMT
I think more worrying was the dire performance of Luke Shaw, and almost as bad, Harry McGuire...two England regulars made to look like schoolboys chasing a tennis ball. Is that down to the manager or were they just shite? Judging by yesterday you’d be forgiven for thinking they’d never met each other, let alone playing together for a few years.
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Post by independent on Oct 25, 2021 21:51:07 GMT
Fucking Pep Guardiola, only managed Barca B in the Spanish 4th division (I think), fucking useless. That said OGS had proven he wasn't good enough with Cardiff. Guardiola got the B team promoted and had a vision. I think the point still stands that Pep has yet to be sacked by Cardiff. That will probably mean that Mick McCarthy will be Utd's next manager.
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Post by liathroid on Oct 25, 2021 22:07:58 GMT
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Post by alsagerstokie on Oct 25, 2021 22:08:43 GMT
I know Bayerns choice ill adk you guys then.
Is Ronaldo good or bad for United?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 25, 2021 22:29:22 GMT
Glazers spent all day with the new md apparently
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Post by miltonstokienew on Oct 25, 2021 23:01:26 GMT
Glazers spent all day with the new md apparently What makes you a prick Button?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 26, 2021 0:52:54 GMT
I know Bayerns choice ill adk you guys then. Is Ronaldo good or bad for United? Probably not great, he'll score goals but its at what cost to the rest of the team, a Juve fan I used to work with was pretty happy to see him go.
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Post by Olgrligm on Oct 26, 2021 7:34:18 GMT
I don't pay much attention to the PL, but based on my limited understanding, I find it hard not to feel sorry for Solskjaer.
He was brought in as a temporary fix to just be a nice guy who the players would rally around following Mourinho's negativity. Unsurprisingly, the players responded and they got a few wins against some poor teams.
Despite his career showing that he's a very limited manager, there was then a press clamour for him to get the job permanently. He got the job and as soon as they didn't win a couple of games, the same press were demanding blood and wondering who would ever think it was a good idea to appoint him.
In spite of all of that, he found a style of play with a young team that was surprisingly successful.with a high intensity pressing game. To everybody's surprise, he was flavour of the month again.
Then Matt Busby II heard that Man City were about to buy Ronaldo, a thirty-something who doesn't press and is entirely unsuited to Solskjaer's system. Ferguson then arranges the signing.
Now, his system doesn't work when Ronaldo plays, so results are poor, and Busby II criticises Solskjaer to anybody who will listen if Ronaldo doesn't play.
Crap manager makes surprisingly decent fist of poisoned chalice before being undermined by former manager.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 26, 2021 7:36:01 GMT
One of football's nice guys but a surprise choice for such a big job. Along with Ranieri, possibly the most likeable manager about for me. I agree. When he played for Man U, I loved Solskjaer as a player. But, given some of the massive egos amongst the top players at the top clubs, I rather think he was on a hiding to nothing when it came to managing any top club. The problem is that when a team collectively and individually have a stinker, like Man U did on Sunday, the last thing a manger needs is to be a nice guy. He needs to go ballistic to make it clear he won't tolerate a repeat performance. This was one of Fergie's strengths!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2021 7:46:08 GMT
One of football's nice guys but a surprise choice for such a big job. Along with Ranieri, possibly the most likeable manager about for me. I agree. When he played for Man U, I loved Solskjaer as a player. But, given some of the massive egos amongst the top players at the top clubs, I rather think he was on a hiding to nothing when it came to managing any top club. The problem is that when a team collectively and individually have a stinker, like Man U did on Sunday, the last thing a manger needs is to be a nice guy. He needs to go ballistic to make it clear he won't tolerate a repeat performance. This was one of Fergie's strengths! . I once got beans instead of peas at The Drogheda Chippy wagon and decided not to say anything. I don't really like beans but ate them anyway. Was 20 odd years ago but looking back should have said something. Sometimes as you say, being the nice guy doesn't get you far.
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 26, 2021 8:40:06 GMT
I don't pay much attention to the PL, but based on my limited understanding, I find it hard not to feel sorry for Solskjaer. He was brought in as a temporary fix to just be a nice guy who the players would rally around following Mourinho's negativity. Unsurprisingly, the players responded and they got a few wins against some poor teams. Despite his career showing that he's a very limited manager, there was then a press clamour for him to get the job permanently. He got the job and as soon as they didn't win a couple of games, the same press were demanding blood and wondering who would ever think it was a good idea to appoint him. In spite of all of that, he found a style of play with a young team that was surprisingly successful.with a high intensity pressing game. To everybody's surprise, he was flavour of the month again. Then Matt Busby II heard that Man City were about to buy Ronaldo, a thirty-something who doesn't press and is entirely unsuited to Solskjaer's system. Ferguson then arranges the signing. Now, his system doesn't work when Ronaldo plays, so results are poor, and Busby II criticises Solskjaer to anybody who will listen if Ronaldo doesn't play. Crap manager makes surprisingly decent fist of poisoned chalice before being undermined by former manager. Ronaldo rejoining was a very expensive vanity project.
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