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Post by lordb on Feb 23, 2019 10:22:07 GMT
But is that down to footballing reasons rather than their personalities? no one really knows what goes on at the club. Good question Liam would still have contacts within the club we can't be doubting that. Butland pointed to a similar issue with his rant about recruitment in the summer Practically every player we bring in starts off impressively then turns to shit, pointing to player issues rather than capabilities Then we could ignore the fact that each time they grace the field they look like complete fucking strangers I still think this squad is massively under performing. I.e. most of the players are nowhere near as bad as the levels we are seeing. E.g. Woods, player of the year for Brentford, Afobe scored lots at this level, Clucas very impressive at Hull. Could go right through.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 23, 2019 10:27:10 GMT
When did Clucas have a good game. I must have been asleep.
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Post by potterpaul on Feb 23, 2019 10:34:09 GMT
When did Clucas have a good game. I must have been asleep. You must have, he didn't start out this shit but fair do's to him he didn't fuck around getting there
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2019 10:37:59 GMT
Hull he played well and arguably our best player and he changed the game at Wigan. It's very much the winner of the ugly duckling competition but Wez has a point. Clucas has challenged him over the last few games though, who has been much improved. It's nothing to celebrate but I don't think that's the point being made. Is that the Hull game that he missed a great chance and the Oatcake fanzine marked him with a 5🤔 What do the Oatcake know? <Rolleyes> 😉
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 23, 2019 11:43:31 GMT
But is that down to footballing reasons rather than their personalities? no one really knows what goes on at the club. Good question Liam would still have contacts within the club we can't be doubting that. Butland pointed to a similar issue with his rant about recruitment in the summer Practically every player we bring in starts off impressively then turns to shit, pointing to player issues rather than capabilities Then we could ignore the fact that each time they grace the field they look like complete fucking strangers Lawrence will be privy to decent inside information, as an ex footballer he will have better connections than the majority of the media and fans who are fed bullshit by the club, the players are not going to come out publically with candid criticism for fear of retribution, others have alluded to similar goings on including Pejic and Kevin Phillips as the saying goes there's no smoke without fire. On the pitch many have identified that this group of players don't give a flying fcuk about this club, to me that is a clear sign that there are deep rooted issues within this group and the club itself.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 23, 2019 11:45:34 GMT
When did Clucas have a good game. I must have been asleep. Along with most of our supporters bored into dropping off at the match.
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Post by bertiestan on Feb 23, 2019 11:51:28 GMT
I can't be the only one who finds some of the personal abuse aimed at Liam Lawrence in this thread to be very strange. you might find that the ones slating him have only become supporters since we were in the prem n can't really recall how important he was to us. if not its just wank n they're the kind of supporter i truely despise.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2019 14:46:10 GMT
It looks like ickle liam has wound his neck in.
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Post by bloody56 on Feb 23, 2019 18:29:17 GMT
The dressing room can't be that great. They spend just 15 minutes in there at halftime and come out playing shit.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 25, 2019 14:51:44 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-jones-vokes-berahino-2581679...insists the recent arrest and charging of Saido Berahino for drink-driving might have cast an unfair shadow over the rest of the dressing room.
He adds that recent publicity shouldn’t fool fans into thinking he is fighting fires all the time.
“Players are buying into it and they are good lads, real good lads,” he stressed.
“What has come out in the press is false, totally false.
“They can demand a bit more from each other and we can have a bit more animal about us, but they are good lads.
“They need guidance, they need different personnel to freshen stuff, but that takes time with the window shut. We will evaluate it.”
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Feb 25, 2019 15:38:18 GMT
Liam Lawrence is a gobshite who thinks he should be working for Stoke City. If he really wants to prove his worth why not try to get a coaching job at Shrewsbury, Mansfield, Sunderland?
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Post by harrysburrow on Feb 25, 2019 18:22:56 GMT
When did Clucas have a good game. I must have been asleep. You must have, he didn't start out this shit but fair do's to him he didn't fuck around getting there 😂😂😂😂 Ace comment 👍
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 26, 2019 12:18:28 GMT
I have been given some info. yesterday by someone I know and trust so take this or leave it, that SB has rarely trained since NJ took the job, that one of our loaned out players was turning up for training the worse for ware(boozed up), that one of our latest signings is pratting around with a player signed by Rowett in training and that our former captain has thrown his toys out of the pram since he was relieved of the captaincy. If these accusations are true and I am not saying they are it would back up with LL was alluding to, like I say I can't say this info. is 100% so don't shoot the messenger.
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Post by lordb on Feb 26, 2019 12:25:44 GMT
I have been given some info. yesterday by someone I know and trust so take this or leave it, that SB has rarely trained since NJ took the job, that one of our loaned out players was turning up for training the worse for ware(boozed up), that one of our latest signings is pratting around with a player signed by Rowett in training and that our former captain has thrown his toys out of the pram since he was relieved of the captaincy. If these accusations are true and I am not saying they are it would back up with LL was alluding to, like I say I can't say this info. is 100% so don't shoot the messenger. what does 'one of our latest signings is pratting around with a player signed by Rowett' mean? having an affair with? fighting with? generally pissing about in training with? Afobe & Batth will know each other from wolves
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Post by kelw on Feb 26, 2019 12:28:21 GMT
I have been given some info. yesterday by someone I know and trust so take this or leave it, that SB has rarely trained since NJ took the job, that one of our loaned out players was turning up for training the worse for ware(boozed up), that one of our latest signings is pratting around with a player signed by Rowett in training and that our former captain has thrown his toys out of the pram since he was relieved of the captaincy. If these accusations are true and I am not saying they are it would back up with LL was alluding to, like I say I can't say this info. is 100% so don't shoot the messenger. Interesting but Lawrence and Beattie were guilty of similar someone we know at the club told me ...Fuller got away with so much as well. Before anyone says they were better players etc is not really the issue.
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Post by kelw on Feb 26, 2019 12:29:36 GMT
I have been given some info. yesterday by someone I know and trust so take this or leave it, that SB has rarely trained since NJ took the job, that one of our loaned out players was turning up for training the worse for ware(boozed up), that one of our latest signings is pratting around with a player signed by Rowett in training and that our former captain has thrown his toys out of the pram since he was relieved of the captaincy. If these accusations are true and I am not saying they are it would back up with LL was alluding to, like I say I can't say this info. is 100% so don't shoot the messenger. what does 'one of our latest signings is pratting around with a player signed by Rowett' mean? having an affair with? fighting with? generally pissing about in training with? Afobe & Batth will know each other from wolves Playing marbles at the back of the class when they should be listening to the manager
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2019 13:42:04 GMT
I have been given some info. yesterday by someone I know and trust so take this or leave it, that SB has rarely trained since NJ took the job, that one of our loaned out players was turning up for training the worse for ware(boozed up), that one of our latest signings is pratting around with a player signed by Rowett in training and that our former captain has thrown his toys out of the pram since he was relieved of the captaincy. If these accusations are true and I am not saying they are it would back up with LL was alluding to, like I say I can't say this info. is 100% so don't shoot the messenger. I heard that our former captain was annoyed that NJ gave the squad a day off after a recent defeat and had a word asking why on earth they were getting a day off after they had lost...
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Post by maninasuitcase on Feb 26, 2019 13:42:33 GMT
When did Clucas have a good game. I must have been asleep. You must have, he didn't start out this shit but fair do's to him he didn't fuck around getting there Quality 😂🤣😂🤣😂
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Post by robboleek on Feb 26, 2019 13:43:35 GMT
I have been given some info. yesterday by someone I know and trust so take this or leave it, that SB has rarely trained since NJ took the job, that one of our loaned out players was turning up for training the worse for ware(boozed up), that one of our latest signings is pratting around with a player signed by Rowett in training and that our former captain has thrown his toys out of the pram since he was relieved of the captaincy. If these accusations are true and I am not saying they are it would back up with LL was alluding to, like I say I can't say this info. is 100% so don't shoot the messenger. I heard that our former captain was annoyed that NJ gave the squad a day off after a recent defeat and had a word asking why on earth they were getting a day off after they had lost... Makes me laugh when footballers have ‘a day off’. The ones that play for Stoke have taken the last 3 years off.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2019 13:55:17 GMT
I heard that our former captain was annoyed that NJ gave the squad a day off after a recent defeat and had a word asking why on earth they were getting a day off after they had lost... Makes me laugh when footballers have ‘a day off’. The ones that play for Stoke have taken the last 3 years off. You hear about the training Leeds have done and the number of hours training they do and we don't even seem to come close.
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Post by kustokie on Feb 26, 2019 13:58:20 GMT
When did Clucas have a good game. I must have been asleep. Saturday. Great cross for the goal.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 26, 2019 14:05:53 GMT
I have been given some info. yesterday by someone I know and trust so take this or leave it, that SB has rarely trained since NJ took the job, that one of our loaned out players was turning up for training the worse for ware(boozed up), that one of our latest signings is pratting around with a player signed by Rowett in training and that our former captain has thrown his toys out of the pram since he was relieved of the captaincy. If these accusations are true and I am not saying they are it would back up with LL was alluding to, like I say I can't say this info. is 100% so don't shoot the messenger. I heard that our former captain was annoyed that NJ gave the squad a day off after a recent defeat and had a word asking why on earth they were getting a day off after they had lost... And he would be right to voice that opinion , rewarding failure is poor management.
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Post by shakermaker on Feb 26, 2019 14:08:00 GMT
I have been given some info. yesterday by someone I know and trust so take this or leave it, that SB has rarely trained since NJ took the job, that one of our loaned out players was turning up for training the worse for ware(boozed up), that one of our latest signings is pratting around with a player signed by Rowett in training and that our former captain has thrown his toys out of the pram since he was relieved of the captaincy. If these accusations are true and I am not saying they are it would back up with LL was alluding to, like I say I can't say this info. is 100% so don't shoot the messenger. Thanks for sharing, but why would your source be able to name Saido as bunking off training yet not able to name players turning up with hangovers or messing about. He was able to say it was one of Rowett's signings, but not who. When he says one of our loaned out players, does he mean someone like Souttar or Campbell? This is all juicy gossip, but there are holes in this information.
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Post by werrington on Feb 26, 2019 14:12:52 GMT
I heard that our former captain was annoyed that NJ gave the squad a day off after a recent defeat and had a word asking why on earth they were getting a day off after they had lost... And he would be right to voice that opinion , rewarding failure is poor management. Perhaps under the employment at work act they are entitled to two days off work every week just like you and I What a load of made up pub rumour bollocks this thread has become and it’s no suprise you are leading it....this Mb was running ok until you’ve returned Has anybody got any actual “ facts “ ?
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 26, 2019 14:17:12 GMT
And he would be right to voice that opinion , rewarding failure is poor management. Perhaps under the employment at work act they are entitled to two days off work every week just like you and I What a load of made up pub rumour bollocks this thread has become and it’s no suprise you are leading it....this Mb was running ok until you’ve returned Has anybody got any actual “ facts “ ? I am leading it really, I see you are still making things up which is no surprise.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 26, 2019 14:18:22 GMT
I have been given some info. yesterday by someone I know and trust so take this or leave it, that SB has rarely trained since NJ took the job, that one of our loaned out players was turning up for training the worse for ware(boozed up), that one of our latest signings is pratting around with a player signed by Rowett in training and that our former captain has thrown his toys out of the pram since he was relieved of the captaincy. If these accusations are true and I am not saying they are it would back up with LL was alluding to, like I say I can't say this info. is 100% so don't shoot the messenger. Thanks for sharing, but why would your source be able to name Saido as bunking off training yet not able to name players turning up with hangovers or messing about. He was able to say it was one of Rowett's signings, but not who. When he says one of our loaned out players, does he mean someone like Souttar or Campbell? This is all juicy gossip, but there are holes in this information. He told me the names don't worry.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 26, 2019 14:20:16 GMT
And he would be right to voice that opinion , rewarding failure is poor management. Perhaps under the employment at work act they are entitled to two days off work every week just like you and I What a load of made up pub rumour bollocks this thread has become and it’s no suprise you are leading it....this Mb was running ok until you’ve returned Has anybody got any actual “ facts “ ? They have most match days off, train 4 days a week why give them any more time off ?
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Post by werrington on Feb 26, 2019 14:24:37 GMT
Perhaps under the employment at work act they are entitled to two days off work every week just like you and I What a load of made up pub rumour bollocks this thread has become and it’s no suprise you are leading it....this Mb was running ok until you’ve returned Has anybody got any actual “ facts “ ? They have most match days off, train 4 days a week why give them any more time off ? Grow up
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Post by shakermaker on Feb 26, 2019 14:27:44 GMT
Thanks for sharing, but why would your source be able to name Saido as bunking off training yet not able to name players turning up with hangovers or messing about. He was able to say it was one of Rowett's signings, but not who. When he says one of our loaned out players, does he mean someone like Souttar or Campbell? This is all juicy gossip, but there are holes in this information. He told me the names don't worry. Can you not share those names then? Nobody knows who you or your source are, so anonymity isn't an issue. I don't understand why Saido has been outed in this information, but not others.
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Post by nonameface on Feb 26, 2019 15:00:32 GMT
I heard that our former captain was annoyed that NJ gave the squad a day off after a recent defeat and had a word asking why on earth they were getting a day off after they had lost... And he would be right to voice that opinion , rewarding failure is poor management. Agreed, unless it was a test for players to ask why (potentially they are ran down) or to request a session instead. Without knowing the facts it sounds poor, but they may be a lot more in it.
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