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Post by werrington on Feb 26, 2019 15:18:07 GMT
Thanks for sharing, but why would your source be able to name Saido as bunking off training yet not able to name players turning up with hangovers or messing about. He was able to say it was one of Rowett's signings, but not who. When he says one of our loaned out players, does he mean someone like Souttar or Campbell? This is all juicy gossip, but there are holes in this information. He told me the names don't worry. Cmon then let’s have them as you’ve nothing to lose if it’s true
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2019 15:35:17 GMT
I have been given some info. yesterday by someone I know and trust so take this or leave it, that SB has rarely trained since NJ took the job, that one of our loaned out players was turning up for training the worse for ware(boozed up), that one of our latest signings is pratting around with a player signed by Rowett in training and that our former captain has thrown his toys out of the pram since he was relieved of the captaincy. If these accusations are true and I am not saying they are it would back up with LL was alluding to, like I say I can't say this info. is 100% so don't shoot the messenger. I don't know anything about anything, but I do know for a fact that no captain of ours has been relieved of his captaincy since Abdoulaye Faye in 2010. As we've had to go through the tiresome play acting by matchday captain Danny Batth placing the armband on Ryan's arm, it is clear that Ryan Shawcross is still Stoke's captain. So unless Abdoulaye Faye has been turning up and throwing his toys out of the pram, your informer has just been shown to be unreliable.
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Post by harrysburrow on Feb 27, 2019 19:34:22 GMT
True or false it's depressing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2019 20:28:31 GMT
So many people worried abut having a law suit taken out against them. The truth is the truth. False accusations can lead to legal problems.
So we have people who cannot be named - giving information about players (who also cannot be named). The details of the "information" cannot specifically be revealed .....
Can someone here please give me a definition of "bullshit"?
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Post by citynickscfc on Feb 27, 2019 20:54:25 GMT
So many people worried abut having a law suit taken out against them. The truth is the truth. False accusations can lead to legal problems. So we have people who cannot be named - giving information about players (who also cannot be named). The details of the "information" cannot specifically be revealed ..... Can someone here please give me a definition of "bullshit"? How about this: We are shit, our squad is shit, full of players who don't give a... Oh, and the chairman recently claimed that we had the best squad ever, were spunking money up the walls and this is a fantastic dressing room (remember the Christmas party thread anyone? Thought so). Just go through every department at the club and almost all are exclusively described as, that word again, diabolical. I'm giving it a rest for a while. Possibly until there's a new vision, head of recruitment or just until someone flushes the damn toilet
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2019 21:02:54 GMT
So many people worried abut having a law suit taken out against them. The truth is the truth. False accusations can lead to legal problems. So we have people who cannot be named - giving information about players (who also cannot be named). The details of the "information" cannot specifically be revealed ..... Can someone here please give me a definition of "bullshit"? How about this: We are shit, our squad is shit, full of players who don't give a... Oh, and the chairman recently claimed that we had the best squad ever, were spunking money up the walls and this is a fantastic dressing room (remember the Christmas party thread anyone? Thought so). Just go through every department at the club and almost all are exclusively described as, that word again, diabolical. I'm giving it a rest for a while. Possibly until there's a new vision, head of recruitment or just until someone flushes the damn toilet Failed.
Sorry.
Next.
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Post by whatsashig on Feb 27, 2019 21:27:04 GMT
I don't think either GR or NJ can just wring their hands and absolve themselves of any blame. Did I read there were just 2 starters from the Hughes era in our last match. You simply can't park it all at his door. We got worse under GR and, quite incredibly, we've got even worse still under NJ. It's their job to get a tune out of a strong squad and on that measure both have abjectly failed. I don’t know
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Post by questionable on Feb 27, 2019 21:30:56 GMT
You have to be careful what you post, under a former username one of the SLP lads dropped me right in it after I stupidly gave him some information which resulted in me receiving a PM asking if I worked for the club but more importantly it could have cost my friend his job and his livelihood.
Believe me the LL story is nothing to what I was told and as the poster alludes to I trust my source 100%.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2019 21:39:48 GMT
And he would be right to voice that opinion , rewarding failure is poor management. Perhaps under the employment at work act they are entitled to two days off work every week just like you and I What a load of made up pub rumour bollocks this thread has become and it’s no suprise you are leading it....this Mb was running ok until you’ve returned Has anybody got any actual “ facts “ ? Excuse the irony of this post but I refuse to be an active poster whilst that scum bucket is around still. Thought admin had more about them to be honest.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 7, 2019 13:56:03 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/live-stoke-city-press-conference-2617243Green shoots of recovery in terms of attitude?NJ: All I am saying is that what I see is not what has been reported and publicised about the past. We are gelling the players and making sure they are feeling good and wanting to play. I see a real good group and one I am proud of. We are far in excess of where we were at my old club at the same stage, I see a real desire to do well. What I see is that we have planted something and are seeing the initial blossoms of that, but one swallow doesn’t make a summer and we will continue planting and watering.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 14:06:34 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/live-stoke-city-press-conference-2617243Green shoots of recovery in terms of attitude?NJ: All I am saying is that what I see is not what has been reported and publicised about the past. We are gelling the players and making sure they are feeling good and wanting to play. I see a real good group and one I am proud of. We are far in excess of where we were at my old club at the same stage, I see a real desire to do well. What I see is that we have planted something and are seeing the initial blossoms of that, but one swallow doesn’t make a summer and we will continue planting and watering. Just shows that people shouldn’t believe everything they read.
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Post by themistocles on Mar 7, 2019 15:25:00 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/live-stoke-city-press-conference-2617243Green shoots of recovery in terms of attitude?NJ: All I am saying is that what I see is not what has been reported and publicised about the past. We are gelling the players and making sure they are feeling good and wanting to play. I see a real good group and one I am proud of. We are far in excess of where we were at my old club at the same stage, I see a real desire to do well. What I see is that we have planted something and are seeing the initial blossoms of that, but one swallow doesn’t make a summer and we will continue planting and watering. Just shows that people shouldn’t believe everything they read. You've expressed this point by " reading" comments by NJ...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 15:33:41 GMT
Just shows that people shouldn’t believe everything they read. You've expressed this point by " reading" comments by NJ... Well yes, as he’s actually in the dressing room and dealing with the players first hand.
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Post by delilahismymum on Mar 7, 2019 15:33:49 GMT
10 pages of shite based on another supposedly ITK twat. It seems just about every other stoke fan has a mate working at senior levels of the club.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 7, 2019 15:45:23 GMT
10 pages of shite based on another supposedly ITK twat. It seems just about every other stoke fan has a mate working at senior levels of the club. Wasn't this 'ITK twat' Liam Lawrence?
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 7, 2019 15:47:48 GMT
10 pages of shite based on another supposedly ITK twat. It seems just about every other stoke fan has a mate working at senior levels of the club. The thread was started in reaction to Liam Lawrence's comments in the media !, have you actually read this thread from the OP. ?
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 7, 2019 15:48:44 GMT
10 pages of shite based on another supposedly ITK twat. It seems just about every other stoke fan has a mate working at senior levels of the club. Wasn't this 'ITK twat' Liam Lawrence? Beat me to it LG.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 7, 2019 17:12:20 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/live-stoke-city-press-conference-2617243Green shoots of recovery in terms of attitude?NJ: All I am saying is that what I see is not what has been reported and publicised about the past. We are gelling the players and making sure they are feeling good and wanting to play. I see a real good group and one I am proud of. We are far in excess of where we were at my old club at the same stage, I see a real desire to do well. What I see is that we have planted something and are seeing the initial blossoms of that, but one swallow doesn’t make a summer and we will continue planting and watering. Just shows that people shouldn’t believe everything they read. Indeed it does
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Post by werrington on Mar 7, 2019 17:43:57 GMT
Just shows that people shouldn’t believe everything they read. Indeed it does Still waiting for you to spill the beans....you’ve had plenty to say but somehow you’re unwilling to name names What is it you are so worried about?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 21:43:54 GMT
Could be potentially libellous. Sentinel aren't going to take a risk on printing stories based on tittle tattle. So to sell a few more papers, whilst avoiding a libel suit, they say "We know something that you don't and we aren't going to tell you" ..and as it turned out "Whey Hey!!" he didn't know anything at all. He most certainly didn't know anything about our current squad.
I know, that he knows, stuff about goings on months and months ago. But that won't sell any papers will it? Old news is no news. If it doesn't sell papers, poor ickle Liam can't earn any money can he?
So he has to resort to the "I know something that you don't" policy. I dare bet that he wishes that he hadn't "gone public" with his recent musings.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 22:00:00 GMT
Well I'm not in the know, but I know there's problems in the playing group and there has been for some time. I don't know what or who they are but I could take an educated guess. Does that make me a genius? Of course not, blind Freddy can see that.
The quotes by NJ above indicate the manager is trying to get the team together, which will also involve moving on the problem players, or those who don't want to get on the bus.
And yes, it's probably going to take some time.
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 7, 2019 22:45:12 GMT
I heard that our former captain was annoyed that NJ gave the squad a day off after a recent defeat and had a word asking why on earth they were getting a day off after they had lost... And he would be right to voice that opinion , rewarding failure is poor management. Honestly, do you get off on spouting utter drivel?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 23:11:49 GMT
Everything I've read from Jones leads me to believe that he very definitely knows what direction he is going in, with that single mindedness I have no doubt he will turn this around over time.
There is no way anyone is going to get away with a bad attitude on his watch.
And despite some bad results, the fitness and intensity has definitely improved, that is obvious
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Post by potterpaul on Mar 7, 2019 23:27:08 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/live-stoke-city-press-conference-2617243Green shoots of recovery in terms of attitude?NJ: All I am saying is that what I see is not what has been reported and publicised about the past. We are gelling the players and making sure they are feeling good and wanting to play. I see a real good group and one I am proud of. We are far in excess of where we were at my old club at the same stage, I see a real desire to do well. What I see is that we have planted something and are seeing the initial blossoms of that, but one swallow doesn’t make a summer and we will continue planting and watering. Just shows that people shouldn’t believe everything they read. Maybe so but are we allowed to believe our own eyes because what I witnessed on the pitch many times was a team lacking in discipline which would lead to the belief that there was a lot of fucking around going on. And I dont believe that NJ word is any more truthful than ex and current players and coaching staff.
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Mar 7, 2019 23:35:39 GMT
What a load of bollocks - every team has problems
Cue Liam to come out with a positive article - great result - keep up the good work
Sad way to earn a living
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 7, 2019 23:41:55 GMT
What a load of bollocks - every team has problems Cue Liam to come out with a positive article - great result - keep up the good work Sad way to earn a living Which you only hear about when results aren't great.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 23:45:42 GMT
Everything I've read from Jones leads me to believe that he very definitely knows what direction he is going in, with that single mindedness I have no doubt he will turn this around over time. There is no way anyone is going to get away with a bad attitude on his watch. And despite some bad results, the fitness and intensity has definitely improved, that is obvious That is really nice to know.
Would you like me to pass that message on to the manager?
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Post by cheadlestokie on Mar 7, 2019 23:49:35 GMT
Wasn't this 'ITK twat' Liam Lawrence? Beat me to it LG. But wasn’t Lawrence apparently told by someone else - identity unknown. Mere hearsay?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 0:10:00 GMT
But wasn’t Lawrence apparently told by someone else - identity unknown. Mere hearsay? Yes that is correct. His dog informed him as he was falling down the stairs.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 0:41:47 GMT
Everything I've read from Jones leads me to believe that he very definitely knows what direction he is going in, with that single mindedness I have no doubt he will turn this around over time. There is no way anyone is going to get away with a bad attitude on his watch. And despite some bad results, the fitness and intensity has definitely improved, that is obvious That is really nice to know.
Would you like me to pass that message on to the manager?
No, I don't want Nathan associating with morons, stay away from him
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