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Post by cheadlestokie on Feb 22, 2019 17:24:37 GMT
Look this is really a non-story. Lawrence has not seen anything himself and received the info second hand at best. He really should have kept his mouth shut on this subject whether what he was told is right or not. To be fair, a journalist asks a question, you answer it, not always knowing exactly what bits will get used and what the angle will be. From NJ’s comments today, Bojan has made the same mistake - journo asks, you respond in the moment. I’ve been interviewed a few times on radio and tv and frankly stuff comes out of your mouth before your brain fully engages because you are under pressure to just say something. You then have no control over how that information is then used. But as an ex player for the club who is becoming more prominent in the local media he will fully realise how what he has said was going to be treated. I do feel he should have kept his mouth shut if he does indeed have any affection for the club and is not only trying, as seems to be the case, to raise his own media profile. There are other ways to do that. Also it was not a case of him suddenly having a microphone put in front of him, this was clearly a formal interview for his weekly piece in the paper.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 22, 2019 17:31:13 GMT
Look this is really a non-story. Lawrence has not seen anything himself and received the info second hand at best. He really should have kept his mouth shut on this subject whether what he was told is right or not. To be fair, a journalist asks a question, you answer it, not always knowing exactly what bits will get used and what the angle will be. From NJ’s comments today, Bojan has made the same mistake - journo asks, you respond in the moment. I’ve been interviewed a few times on radio and tv and frankly stuff comes out of your mouth before your brain fully engages because you are under pressure to just say something. You then have no control over how that information is then used. A no comment or its not my place to say would have been fine, its not like he's not used to interviews and he panicked, he's well versed in them.
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Post by stiggerstackle on Feb 22, 2019 17:31:22 GMT
Yep, fair point Cheadle, he should be far more media-savvy than I!
But he does seem to have genuine affection for the club - his commentary always discusses us in the first person, I just can’t see him making mischief for the sake of it.
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Post by starkerz14 on Feb 22, 2019 17:37:31 GMT
James McClean calling Lawrence out on Instagram? ![](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190222/fd33653dab834c6b6a5e94898cb6cbc6.jpg)
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Feb 22, 2019 17:44:41 GMT
James McClean calling Lawrence out on Instagram? ![](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190222/fd33653dab834c6b6a5e94898cb6cbc6.jpg) Not sure it's a good idea to respond but at least he's sticking up for his fellow players. It's pretty clear McClean is well liked in the dressing room, maybe because he actually works for the team, whatever his limitations.
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Post by questionable on Feb 22, 2019 17:54:45 GMT
Give me 10 LL instead of a shit JimmyMacc, not fit to lace his boots, great bunch of lads my arse, so much so NJ allegedly told you to find another club.
You’re exactly what’s wrong with this club, over priced, extremely limited player stealing a living at our club.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Feb 22, 2019 18:00:54 GMT
Give me 10 LL instead of a shit JimmyMacc, not fit to lace his boots, great bunch of lads my arse, so much so NJ allegedly told you to find another club. You’re exactly what’s wrong with this club, over priced, extremely limited player stealing a living at our club. Yes he may be limited but he is a trier Stealing a living? Too strong. Not his fault he was bought and offered the wage he is on Not his biggest fan but we seemingly openly tried to sell/swap him in Jan and yet it didnt happen. One thing I cant accuse him of is not trying, most of the time and I keep hearing that is what football supporters want first and foremost? There are a lot more things wrong at our club than this blokes attitude no matter what else you think of him
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Post by werrington on Feb 22, 2019 18:09:24 GMT
Give me 10 LL instead of a shit JimmyMacc, not fit to lace his boots, great bunch of lads my arse, so much so NJ allegedly told you to find another club. You’re exactly what’s wrong with this club, over priced, extremely limited player stealing a living at our club. Yes he may be limited but he is a trier Stealing a living? Too strong. Not his fault he was bought and offered the wage he is on Not his biggest fan but we seemingly openly tried to sell/swap him in Jan and yet it didnt happen. One thing I cant accuse him of is not trying, most of the time and I keep hearing that is what football supporters want first and foremost? There are a lot more things wrong at our club than this blokes attitude no matter what else you think of him He’s been our best player since Christmas
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Post by questionable on Feb 22, 2019 18:10:03 GMT
And that’s exactly why we are where we are, we’re putting up with some right crap.
I’m amazed that anyone can think that by trying hard turns you into a footballer, you can count on two fingers how many average games he’s had since his arrival, certainly had no stand out games.
If you’re willing to think he’s good enough to get us where we want to be it’s your opinion and I respect that but as said in my opinion he’s utter garbage and nothing but a blight on our club
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 22, 2019 18:17:09 GMT
And that’s exactly why we are where we are, we’re putting up with some right crap. I’m amazed that anyone can think that by trying hard turns you into a footballer, you can count on two fingers how many average games he’s had since his arrival, certainly had no stand out games. If you’re willing to think he’s good enough to get us where we want to be it’s your opinion and I respect that but as said in my opinion he’s utter garbage and nothing but a blight on our club That’s a a different argument though isn’t it? You might not like him but he isn’t ‘stealing a living’, an accusation you could level at a good half a dozen at least, but not him.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 22, 2019 18:18:33 GMT
Yes he may be limited but he is a trier Stealing a living? Too strong. Not his fault he was bought and offered the wage he is on Not his biggest fan but we seemingly openly tried to sell/swap him in Jan and yet it didnt happen. One thing I cant accuse him of is not trying, most of the time and I keep hearing that is what football supporters want first and foremost? There are a lot more things wrong at our club than this blokes attitude no matter what else you think of him He’s been our best player since Christmas If you were a regular you'd have been our best player since Christmas. Hes shit. End of. He isn't alone.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2019 19:05:05 GMT
Yes he may be limited but he is a trier Stealing a living? Too strong. Not his fault he was bought and offered the wage he is on Not his biggest fan but we seemingly openly tried to sell/swap him in Jan and yet it didnt happen. One thing I cant accuse him of is not trying, most of the time and I keep hearing that is what football supporters want first and foremost? There are a lot more things wrong at our club than this blokes attitude no matter what else you think of him He’s been our best player since Christmas To be fair that means absolutely nothing. We've been absolute dog shit and that includes James McClean.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 22, 2019 19:21:30 GMT
Give me 10 LL instead of a shit JimmyMacc, not fit to lace his boots, great bunch of lads my arse, so much so NJ allegedly told you to find another club. You’re exactly what’s wrong with this club, over priced, extremely limited player stealing a living at our club. Told him to find another club but still plays him regularly Putting aside his footballing ability and wages, what do you actually think of what he said?
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Post by thevoid on Feb 22, 2019 19:30:18 GMT
Yes he may be limited but he is a trier Stealing a living? Too strong. Not his fault he was bought and offered the wage he is on Not his biggest fan but we seemingly openly tried to sell/swap him in Jan and yet it didnt happen. One thing I cant accuse him of is not trying, most of the time and I keep hearing that is what football supporters want first and foremost? There are a lot more things wrong at our club than this blokes attitude no matter what else you think of him He’s been our best player since Christmas Has he balls.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 22, 2019 19:31:20 GMT
He’s been our best player since Christmas Has he balls. He has plenty of balls, just no footballing ability...
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Post by bertiestan on Feb 22, 2019 20:09:19 GMT
i love liam lawrence and will be forever grateful for the part he played in the promotion season and the first prem season, hes very passionate about the club and still refers to us as we and he'll be hurting just as much as us but maybe he needs to know when keep stum and to know his comments may be more detrimental than good at the moment. its one massive shit storm at the moment and we need it to blow over with as less fuss as possible, his comments definitely haven't helped and hopefully he learns from it.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 22, 2019 20:12:21 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-gordon-banks-villa-2574509“We lack the odd leader in there, we maybe need the odd warrior, but that’s as big as the problem goes, there’s no bad eggs in there.
“We’ve had no real disciplinary problems, this week aside. There have been minor problems, not fundamental ones.
“What we want is to bring in people who can take the club forward.
“There will be personnel changes. There have been good times here, we want to get back to that, I won’t wipe things out, but I will tinker.”
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 22, 2019 20:52:37 GMT
Well liked in the squad ? and if he is he is not well liked by a good many Stoke City supporters those people that pay his wages. You think think the Stoke fans pay his wages?! ![(rofl)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/wMWjB17JNiCK5pUPtfmL.gif) Yes of course they do, what do you think you pay the admission for ? if he is paid his worth as a footballer £20 a week would be too much.
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Post by newsteadst3 on Feb 23, 2019 8:05:10 GMT
Lawrence is like one of them boxers Who hasn't warranted a title shot . But uses his mouth to get him self in a position for a big fight.
He is doing the same as he is obviously trying to follow higginbotham in to the media etc.
He tried it with the academy trying get a gig there. But when they couldn't meet his needs he was on On PnG wining there.
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Post by werrington on Feb 23, 2019 8:34:43 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-gordon-banks-villa-2574509“We lack the odd leader in there, we maybe need the odd warrior, but that’s as big as the problem goes, there’s no bad eggs in there.
“We’ve had no real disciplinary problems, this week aside. There have been minor problems, not fundamental ones.
“What we want is to bring in people who can take the club forward.
“There will be personnel changes. There have been good times here, we want to get back to that, I won’t wipe things out, but I will tinker.” Cmon Liam it’s over to you lad
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 23, 2019 8:53:08 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-gordon-banks-villa-2574509“We lack the odd leader in there, we maybe need the odd warrior, but that’s as big as the problem goes, there’s no bad eggs in there.
“We’ve had no real disciplinary problems, this week aside. There have been minor problems, not fundamental ones.
“What we want is to bring in people who can take the club forward.
“There will be personnel changes. There have been good times here, we want to get back to that, I won’t wipe things out, but I will tinker.” Cmon Liam it’s over to you lad To be fair wez, the subtext of nearly every Jones interview since he joined, is that he simply cannot wait to fuck virtually all of the players off at his earliest opportunity!
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Post by GeneralFaye on Feb 23, 2019 8:58:34 GMT
Cmon Liam it’s over to you lad To be fair wez, the subtext of nearly every Jones interview since he joined, is that he simply cannot wait to fuck virtually all of the players off at his earliest opportunity! But is that down to footballing reasons rather than their personalities? no one really knows what goes on at the club.
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Post by Olgrligm on Feb 23, 2019 9:08:26 GMT
I can't be the only one who finds some of the personal abuse aimed at Liam Lawrence in this thread to be very strange.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 23, 2019 9:12:20 GMT
I can't be the only one who finds some of the personal abuse aimed at Liam Lawrence in this thread to be very strange. There's a whole industry in viciously slagging ex players on this board.
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Post by kelw on Feb 23, 2019 9:27:12 GMT
Lawrence and Beattie didn't cover themselves in glory in latter times...as for sandwichgate with Lawrence's video. No need for all this and McClean correct in telling him to button it. Not a case of who was the best player etc just not necessary. Let the manager sort the dressing room out which am sure he'll do in time
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 23, 2019 10:03:06 GMT
Yes he may be limited but he is a trier Stealing a living? Too strong. Not his fault he was bought and offered the wage he is on Not his biggest fan but we seemingly openly tried to sell/swap him in Jan and yet it didnt happen. One thing I cant accuse him of is not trying, most of the time and I keep hearing that is what football supporters want first and foremost? There are a lot more things wrong at our club than this blokes attitude no matter what else you think of him He’s been our best player since Christmas I’m really struggling with that post mate🤔Apart from his cameo against Leeds(when he was excellent) I don’t remember any other standout performances
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2019 10:06:17 GMT
He’s been our best player since Christmas I’m really struggling with that post mate🤔Apart from his cameo against Leeds(when he was excellent) I don’t remember any other standout performances Hull he played well and arguably our best player and he changed the game at Wigan. It's very much the winner of the ugly duckling competition but Wez has a point. Clucas has challenged him over the last few games though, who has been much improved. It's nothing to celebrate but I don't think that's the point being made.
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Post by werrington on Feb 23, 2019 10:09:47 GMT
I’m really struggling with that post mate🤔Apart from his cameo against Leeds(when he was excellent) I don’t remember any other standout performances Hull he played well and arguably our best player and he changed the game at Wigan. It's very much the winner of the ugly duckling competition but Wez has a point. Clucas has challenged him over the last few games though, who has been much improved. It's nothing to celebrate but I don't think that's the point being made. Answered it superbly mate 👍
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 23, 2019 10:14:27 GMT
I’m really struggling with that post mate🤔Apart from his cameo against Leeds(when he was excellent) I don’t remember any other standout performances Hull he played well and arguably our best player and he changed the game at Wigan. It's very much the winner of the ugly duckling competition but Wez has a point. Clucas has challenged him over the last few games though, who has been much improved. It's nothing to celebrate but I don't think that's the point being made. Is that the Hull game that he missed a great chance and the Oatcake fanzine marked him with a 5🤔
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Post by potterpaul on Feb 23, 2019 10:18:39 GMT
To be fair wez, the subtext of nearly every Jones interview since he joined, is that he simply cannot wait to fuck virtually all of the players off at his earliest opportunity! But is that down to footballing reasons rather than their personalities? no one really knows what goes on at the club. Good question Liam would still have contacts within the club we can't be doubting that. Butland pointed to a similar issue with his rant about recruitment in the summer Practically every player we bring in starts off impressively then turns to shit, pointing to player issues rather than capabilities Then we could ignore the fact that each time they grace the field they look like complete fucking strangers
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