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Post by sufolkstokie on Feb 17, 2019 10:37:35 GMT
Where is the club I knew who did things like stick behind Delap when he broke his leg?
Really feels shot to hell at the moment with no leadership
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 10:38:53 GMT
They are making it very difficult to support this club right now. Stoke City have become an unlikeable embarrassment of a football club that I no longer recognise or even relate to anymore. Heartbreaking stuff after 25 years. I’ve felt like they were idiots and I’ve felt in the past they just been too tight and I’ve felt annoyed that we didn’t push on years a go again when we had the chance, but I’ve never felt that we treat our players badly or that they would outright lie to the fans. Maybe I am being too sensitive and I’ll calm down later but I feel like we’ve been totally mugged off. Being relegated was annoying because it was avoidable, being stuck in this league (at best) for the next few years is annoying (because we managed to make the situation worse over the summer not bettter) but treating people like this is just totally unacceptable. I feel like I don’t want any part it in. You don’t get to ruin people’s careers and limit their options if you don’t want them. I’ve always felt that at least Peter was decent and honest and am surprised and disappointed he’d let these things go on. And then you get people like McClean (who I don’t dislike that much) behaving like an idiot on that pitch yesterday when he scored and when he got subbed. It’s just all so embarrassing to be part of.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 10:39:44 GMT
I totally back jones. Anyone who doesn't see that he has a huge job to turn around the mess left by gary rowett is deluded.
But, I have serious worries about him not giving bojan a proper run in the team, whilst giving continuous chances to tom ince who is a total fucking waste of space.
We seem to be obsessed with being an average championship club, and ignoring our only top level quality player
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 10:40:19 GMT
I'm starting to despise my own club, I've had a season ticket since 1986 and seriously considering not renewing next season. I don't want to be part of these players at the moment they are a vile bunch. This is just the straw that broke the camels back. Give the lad a run of games or pay his contract up and let him go somewhere he will be able to play and be treated with a bit of respect. Embarrassing That is what they should do now if they don’t want him. Pay him up and let him go. That’s the only way they can come out of this with any decency. Admit it was wrong and out of order and face the consequences. But they won’t will they.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Feb 17, 2019 10:43:20 GMT
Sorry to see him go when he does. He must be taking a dump on the training ground to not be considered above some of the shit that starts ahead of him
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Feb 17, 2019 10:45:58 GMT
When he sees Tom ince and James McLean both playing in positions that he can play, and the team still score no goals and create absolutely nothing at all you can understand why he’s thoroughly pissed off. He’s far and away the most creative player we have. He can see and execute forward passes that others aren’t even aware of. He takes the play forward. All things that the above mentioned and others aren’t capable of. He should be in the team for the rest of the season to give a true reflection of what he can and will offer. Afterall it’s not like we have better alternatives. Absolutely. I can tell NJ for free that giving Bodger and Diouf a decent run of games in this diamond formation will see results improve especially with Charlie at the base of the diamond. 100 percent. Those 3 would improve this line up 100 percent. I'm guessing there is something to do with games triggering extensions to contracts or some other ridiculousness at play. Whereas we now have all the wasters Rowett has saddled us with. ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/4tzqvp1fxEemag_TAXLJ.gif)
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Post by toppercorner on Feb 17, 2019 10:46:57 GMT
Bold move from Bojan.
Shit, again, from our now, throughly dislikable club
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Feb 17, 2019 10:47:20 GMT
Fucking joke of a club. I've been going since 1995 and I've never been so pissed off at the whole shit-show. Top-to-bottom laughing stock.
Even when we've been shitter in that 24 year time frame, we at least were genuinely shit but trying, didn't have a pot to piss in, and the excuse could be made that the players we had were actually, truly wank.
To treat Bojan like this is wank on him and a hard kick in the knackers for every hard-working fan who has had to put up with watching this club implode over the last three years. The willful ineptitude, stubborn myopia and generally toxic, vile atmosphere that has swamped this club has been bad enough; but in these times when the playing staff are loathsome, lazy losers, to ostracise a gifted, creative player (who, crucially, WANTS to play) is just spitting right in our faces.
Like my arse, Stoke. Pathetic.
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Post by milky on Feb 17, 2019 10:48:53 GMT
I really thought NJ would give him some game time.
Is it really only just over 3 years that Bojan,along with Arnie and Shaqiri were handing both Manchester clubs their arses.
What a sorry state we have become and its nothing short of a crime that certain people are still in jobs.
Welcome to the rotting carcass that is Stoke City FC...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 10:55:15 GMT
Bold move from Bojan. Shit, again, from our now, throughly dislikable club Good for him. They only way they could get away with it by banking on the fact that it’s Bojan and he’s too nice to say anything. It’s verging on bullying and they’ve certainly underestimated him. They wouldn’t have tried it with some of the others.
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Post by mattythestokie on Feb 17, 2019 10:56:08 GMT
He gets half a game to prove himself and then dropped for weeks on end - yet other players seem to be given 7/8/9 poor games before being eventually dropped.
I really don’t get it.
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Post by andystokey on Feb 17, 2019 10:56:35 GMT
It can't do NJ any favours having a fans favourite not playing. You can only assume that the reason we insisted he stayed was either NJ was unsure about his midfield options and didn't want to let him go. Or someone upstairs blocked the move to a rival.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 11:00:27 GMT
Needs:
- A run of games.
- A team built around him.
The first would see us win games, The second promotion.
It's difficult for a manager to be brave and get a formation with him as a focal point - but it has to be a better option that Mclean as a striker yeah?
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Feb 17, 2019 11:01:02 GMT
This club is fucking wank.
An embarrassing, pathetically run shit-show that is only going one way, and that’s fucking down.
Yet still the parties responsible for overseeing this fucking catastrophic abortion are still in their posts.
The fact that people are having a go at the fans is a joke, this is way more than most fans put up with before kicking off.
The team is wank. The stadium is wank. The matchday experience is wank. The social media is wank. The club shop is wank. The players are to a man wank. The chief executive is wank. The owners have turned into passive wank.
Sick of this fucking team, when are we going to get something to make us feel proud again?!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 11:01:50 GMT
It can't do NJ any favours having a fans favourite not playing. You can only assume that the reason we insisted he stayed was either NJ was unsure about his midfield options and didn't want to let him go. Or someone upstairs blocked the move to a rival. He said himself he was an important player and would be an important part of his team. Perfect I think was the word used. Also Bojan says in that article he doesn’t know why he’s not playing so no-ones bothered to have a conversation with him. So NJ in my eyes now looks like a right twat and is as culpable in this as the rest of them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 11:02:22 GMT
Turn your back on em, and don't go. It's the only way they'll get the message! Shower. End of!
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Post by milky on Feb 17, 2019 11:02:45 GMT
We should chant his name for 90 mins solid against Villa.
I dont give a damn how it affects the little darlings on the pitch as half of them are wankers anyway.
Edit - most of them are
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 17, 2019 11:04:36 GMT
Bojan is half the player he was 2/3 years ago,but he is still twice the player of our current crop of dogshite.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 11:08:57 GMT
Must be a reason he’s not playing? Have you looked into the facts?
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Post by andystokey on Feb 17, 2019 11:09:36 GMT
It can't do NJ any favours having a fans favourite not playing. You can only assume that the reason we insisted he stayed was either NJ was unsure about his midfield options and didn't want to let him go. Or someone upstairs blocked the move to a rival. He said himself he was an important player and would be an important part of his team. Perfect I think was the word used. Also Bojan says in that article he doesn’t know why he’s not playing so no-ones bothered to have a conversation with him. So NJ in my eyes now looks like a right twat and is as culpable in this as the rest of them. I don't think we can blame NJ for the long term frustration of 15 league starts out of 122. In fairness he did start at Hull and he has been selected for the 18 regularly. He's been given something that Mame hasn't in the games so far. Diouf has a good reason to suggest the shower of shit forward line could at least have given him a go how many minutes has he been afforded so far? Less than Josh Tymon.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 11:09:58 GMT
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Feb 17, 2019 11:12:56 GMT
“I don’t want to be a problem for anybody”.
It’s heartbreaking, absolutely heartbreaking.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Feb 17, 2019 11:13:55 GMT
When I look at who he's been dropped for over the years I feel such a rage that I feel like fucking the club off completely (not that anyone would care, I know that, before anyone starts):
Giannelli Fucking Imbula. Watched once and spunked a fortune on. One footed, lazy mardarse. Couldn't be arsed learning English. Was gash anyway and never needed in the first place. Watched him 25 times did you, you pair of rats? Lying fuckers.
Joe Allen. Generally can't fault his attitude but never needed him in the first place and was only signed because he was available and was a "name". I can't fault the bloke himself, but he has never once been a good fit for this side, and jamming him in regardless has totally fucked up our midfield, pulled it all out of shape and destroyed any balance we had.
Jese Rodriguez. Ditching the 4231 for a 4321 and starting this vile little monster. Repugnant character. Liar, cheater, greedy little fuck, arrogant tosser, philanderer, and all-round waste of life.
Tom Ince. Frankly, doesn't look like he wants to be a footballer. Not willing to even break a sweat for the club. Has had about three good games. Not suited to the tip of the diamond, as if he was good enough in any other position anyway. Makes a living off his surname. Weak, slow, shit, shit, shit. Can't shoot, doesn't give a fuck, why are you here?
Bojan, you are frankly better than this festering sewer of a club. If you have the chance to leave before you drown in filth, do it. There's a good section of the fanbase who don't deserve a gem like you here as well. I hope you stay in this country, come back, applaud the fans, rip the team to shreds and stick a big fat middle finger up to every single decision maker here.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 11:15:38 GMT
This was an upsetting read ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/4tzqvp1fxEemag_TAXLJ.gif) And now quite a concern if the manager has a negative reaction to his comments Was there still an option that he can still move in this window? (Abroad) 🙁 Perhaps. Some countries' window closes later. But the move to WBA, which could have seen him playing PL next season, is off. Worst case scenario: he goes to a country like Russia, China, or the USA, where the money is good, but we will never see him play again He once was our swan, but it seems that to every boss here, he has turned into the ugliest duckling that they simply won't play for fear of losing face.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 11:16:01 GMT
He said himself he was an important player and would be an important part of his team. Perfect I think was the word used. Also Bojan says in that article he doesn’t know why he’s not playing so no-ones bothered to have a conversation with him. So NJ in my eyes now looks like a right twat and is as culpable in this as the rest of them. I don't think we can blame NJ for the long term frustration of 15 league starts out of 122. In fairness he did start at Hull and he has been selected for the 18 regularly. He's been given something that Mame hasn't in the games so far. Diouf has a good reason to suggest the shower of shit forward line could at least have given him a go how many minutes has he been afforded so far? Less than Josh Tymon. I agree it’s not entirely his fault but he shouldn’t have said he would play. You can’t come out 2 weeks into a job and lie to people. It’s not on. Why he dropped him after Hull is beyond me but I sort of went with it thinking there must be some plan on the basis of what he previously said and now it just looks liked he’s lied to keep him as part of some grand master plan developed upstairs to try to keep the fans onside. All the benefit of the doubt with him has gone. It was a stupid move. Fuck knows where Diouf is either! Absolutely ridiculous he’s not even on the bench and we have to watch Afobe flap his arms and fall over if anyone breathes on him. I’m so sick of this shit. Today has just tipped me over the edge.
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Post by jeycov on Feb 17, 2019 11:17:31 GMT
It can't do NJ any favours having a fans favourite not playing. You can only assume that the reason we insisted he stayed was either NJ was unsure about his midfield options and didn't want to let him go. Or someone upstairs blocked the move to a rival. Or has Rowett burnt his bridges with so many fans re his comments re Bojan, there would be similar outrage if the next manager sells him straightaway? NJ has some difficult decisions in the coming days Stick to his principles by selecting players who want to commit to the club (Bojans comments may be interpreted as he'd prefer to be playing even if its elsewhere) but until his comments he has been 100% wanting to play here) Explain why we are in this situation, as NJ stated that Bojan is part of his plans On a wider issue, we understand the difficult situation that NJ has inherited and accept that is will take time to recover , but in trying to make the most of our current squad, why are some of them getting more opportunities than others even though we are not winning? Most of us think we could do a better job from the stands but a more transparent account of his team selections would gain him more respect imo A pity that things are so negative right now when we should be celebrating the career of one of our finest footballers, Gordon Banks
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 11:17:37 GMT
Can’t imagine him being on the bench for the upcoming games, thanks Bojan for the brief memories between 2014-16 He doesn't actually utter a single word of criticism aimed at Jones, Scholes, or Coates. And yet you want to banish him from the matchday squad!
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Post by skelman on Feb 17, 2019 11:18:15 GMT
This club is fucking wank. An embarrassing, pathetically run shit-show that is only going one way, and that’s fucking down. Yet still the parties responsible for overseeing this fucking catastrophic abortion are still in their posts. The fact that people are having a go at the fans is a joke, this is way more than most fans put up with before kicking off. The team is wank. The stadium is wank. The matchday experience is wank. The social media is wank. The club shop is wank. The players are to a man wank. The chief executive is wank. The owners have turned into passive wank. Sick of this fucking team, when are we going to get something to make us feel proud again?! The only area in the club that isn’t wank is the PR DEPARTMENT which has upped its game at trying to put a shine on a 💩 turd!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 11:23:46 GMT
I understood it under Rowett. He was a stubborn, nasty bloke who wanted to play ugly football and clearly hated the fact that the fan favourite was skilful. But Jones has come with a reputation of playing total football and he’s not playing our most exciting footballer. And, it was Jones - and some unnamed other - who asked Bojan to stay when all those offers came in.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 17, 2019 11:25:47 GMT
Lambert once said that certain players were coming across totally different on social media than what they are actually doing behind the scenes. This could well be partly aimed at Bojan? It’s no coincidence that 5/6 managers have all decided against playing him! Something does not add up. Why we kept him I will never know The exclusion of Bojan has hardly led to an improvement in form though, has it? I am getting tired of managers making ludicrous team selections, to be honest. How the fuck does McClean start up front ahead of Bojan? These managers that people keep quoting have been fucking useless in the main. Hughes at the end, Lambert and Rowett were abysmal, and Jones is doing his best to live up to them. I would sooner see Bojan on the pitch than Woods, Ince or McClean, either as a striker or attacking midfieider. If there is a reason for his exclusion, have the bollocks to say what it is. Or else give him a run in the team to prove his wankness, like the rest of them seem to get.
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