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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 6:00:26 GMT
I’ve come to the conclusion that some stoke fans really don’t like him for some strange reason. I reached a similar conclusion a few weeks ago, when I realised that there are, on this board anyway, a number of Stoke fans who would be absolutely delighted if Bojan failed playing for Stoke
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 6:26:16 GMT
Not every day but just once would be decent. Now answer this: have you even read the interview? Of course I've read the interview. It's February the 18th, 2 whole weeks after the window has closed, a window where bojan was asked to stay as Jones sees him as his ideal number 10. So where have they apparently 'lied' to him? You said tell him once, they have told him once. What more do you want, does bojan want it in writing or something? Or are we saying he should be a guaranteed starter now & Jones isn't allowed to see if others can cut the position ahead of the summer transfer plans? Going to the press 2 weeks after the window closed, the window where he was asked to stay is a sure way to not get selected. Jones would be seen as bowing to a players demands, he won't play him V villa now and rightly so I can safely conclude you haven't read the interview, which Bojan btw didn't ask for, Pete Smith came to him. In it Bojan says he's done with SCFC (as Pete says that's a statement Bojan will have hated making). He's not asking for special favours or anything, he just wants to move on, to one of the several offers that his agents arranged for him. Offers Bojan turned down, because he was led to believe he would play. It turned out to be not happening, so he's looking for another chance at those clubs. It's effectively an invitation for those clubs to come for him again, clubs in countries where the window isn't closed.
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Post by jeycov on Feb 19, 2019 7:31:59 GMT
Of course I've read the interview. It's February the 18th, 2 whole weeks after the window has closed, a window where bojan was asked to stay as Jones sees him as his ideal number 10. So where have they apparently 'lied' to him? You said tell him once, they have told him once. What more do you want, does bojan want it in writing or something? Or are we saying he should be a guaranteed starter now & Jones isn't allowed to see if others can cut the position ahead of the summer transfer plans? Going to the press 2 weeks after the window closed, the window where he was asked to stay is a sure way to not get selected. Jones would be seen as bowing to a players demands, he won't play him V villa now and rightly so I can safely conclude you haven't read the interview, which Bojan btw didn't ask for, Pete Smith came to him. In it Bojan says he's done with SCFC (as Pete says that's a statement Bojan will have hated making). He's not asking for special favours or anything, he just wants to move on, to one of the several offers that his agents arranged for him. Offers Bojan turned down, because he was led to believe he would play. It turned out to be not happening, so he's looking for another chance at those clubs. It's effectively an invitation for those clubs to come for him again, clubs in countries where the window isn't closed. There’s every chance that the club will present this as “Bojan has asked to leave to get more game time” Sounds familiar ? well Peter Crouch ( another trouble maker ) has moved on too ( up a level to a Premiership club as well) Maybe the club made it clear to Crouchie that he would have less of a role here and no doubt was not happy with some of the booing when he was brought on as a sub - and a club quickly came in for him The impression regarding Bojan was that he did have a part to play in Jones’s plans and this has triggered his response in his interview and so was denied the same opportunity We await a response
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Post by Bagwash on Feb 19, 2019 7:57:29 GMT
I've stated earlier that Nathan Jones has got to address the issue about Bojan now that it is out in the open and I would hazard a guess what the clubs response is going to be,that he wants to leave(when he so obviously doesn't) Besides the poor fare that we are seeing on the pitch the club also need to improve there PR off it. It's been a long time since I have felt so disconnected with Stoke City. Always a Potter but at the moment it's bloody hard work.
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Post by nott1 on Feb 19, 2019 9:06:09 GMT
Do you mean 76% of those who replied to the Sentinel or 76% of the supporter base? I wonder how many people actually voted!!! Do you really think someone has asked 28k fans? ![:-S](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kdD1n42dnzYd3v59eUB_.gif)
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 19, 2019 9:48:18 GMT
Of course I've read the interview. It's February the 18th, 2 whole weeks after the window has closed, a window where bojan was asked to stay as Jones sees him as his ideal number 10. So where have they apparently 'lied' to him? You said tell him once, they have told him once. What more do you want, does bojan want it in writing or something? Or are we saying he should be a guaranteed starter now & Jones isn't allowed to see if others can cut the position ahead of the summer transfer plans? Going to the press 2 weeks after the window closed, the window where he was asked to stay is a sure way to not get selected. Jones would be seen as bowing to a players demands, he won't play him V villa now and rightly so I can safely conclude you haven't read the interview, which Bojan btw didn't ask for, Pete Smith came to him. In it Bojan says he's done with SCFC (as Pete says that's a statement Bojan will have hated making). He's not asking for special favours or anything, he just wants to move on, to one of the several offers that his agents arranged for him. Offers Bojan turned down, because he was led to believe he would play. It turned out to be not happening, so he's looking for another chance at those clubs. It's effectively an invitation for those clubs to come for him again, clubs in countries where the window isn't closed. Good let the little mardarse fuck off then. Sick of hearing about him, he's done jack shit for stoke other than 3 months of world class form, 3 months!!! You'd think he'd done it over a number of seasons like walters. He's been here since when? Presser might have gone to him but, you know.. don't you think you'd have a slight inkling that moaning to a journo it might end up in a paper? Thinks he should be playing but hasn't nailed down a place anywhere he has played since Barcelona. The sun shines out of his arse on here. He's been told he's in the plans 2 weeks ago, if that's not good enough then 👋 2 managers he's publicly moaned about now here, maybe Hughes aswell I can't remember. Jones is a young manager stepping up a league, trying his best with a shit hand and big expectations, he doesn't need his players moaning to journos, he needs them to knuckle down and them buying into his ideas
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Post by Robo10 on Feb 19, 2019 10:12:50 GMT
berahinosgoals - you really are coming across as a bit of a cockwomble buddy. That username, a fairly snide and targeted attack none stop on one of our players (who has only stated his frustration at not getting a chance when others, including your namesake idol, have had plenty and not delivered!) Give your head a wobble - we get it, you don't rate him, as it happens I don't rate about 8 of them, but I don't bang on about it - I turn up every week hoping we turn a corner (even just take a good one!) Given what we have witnessed under the managers you mention above, and the complete lack of creativity or skill from the blaggers who have played instead, fans just want some stardust, even a bit, and for the player to be given a fair crack of the whip over 5, 6, 7 games and not 20 mins every 4 weeks. If he cant do it, at least he has had his opportunity - but we wont know if he doesn't play. I do know that if we keep picking the same side, with the same stagnant midfield and forward line, we will keep getting the same results! First sign of madness and all that.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 19, 2019 10:15:38 GMT
berahinosgoals - you really are coming across as a bit of a cockwomble buddy. That username, a fairly snide and targeted attack none stop on one of our players (who has only stated his frustration at not getting a chance when others, including your namesake idol, have had plenty and not delivered!) Give your head a wobble - we get it, you don't rate him, as it happens I don't rate about 8 of them, but I don't bang on about it - I turn up every week hoping we turn a corner (even just take a good one!) Given what we have witnessed under the managers you mention above, and the complete lack of creativity or skill from the blaggers who have played instead, fans just want some stardust, even a bit, and for the player to be given a fair crack of the whip over 5, 6, 7 games and not 20 mins every 4 weeks. If he cant do it, at least he has had his opportunity - but we wont know if he doesn't play. I do know that if we keep picking the same side, with the same stagnant midfield and forward line, we will keep getting the same results! First sign of madness and all that. I couldn't give a shit mate, if he was that fucking good he'd be playing. I don't keep on about it either, I'm being replied too so I answer. It's like when your mate splits up with a fling who give him great sex for 3 month and the world has ended. Pining like lost puppies.
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Post by elystokie on Feb 19, 2019 10:18:32 GMT
berahinosgoals - you really are coming across as a bit of a cockwomble buddy. That username, a fairly snide and targeted attack none stop on one of our players (who has only stated his frustration at not getting a chance when others, including your namesake idol, have had plenty and not delivered!) Give your head a wobble - we get it, you don't rate him, as it happens I don't rate about 8 of them, but I don't bang on about it - I turn up every week hoping we turn a corner (even just take a good one!) Given what we have witnessed under the managers you mention above, and the complete lack of creativity or skill from the blaggers who have played instead, fans just want some stardust, even a bit, and for the player to be given a fair crack of the whip over 5, 6, 7 games and not 20 mins every 4 weeks. If he cant do it, at least he has had his opportunity - but we wont know if he doesn't play. I do know that if we keep picking the same side, with the same stagnant midfield and forward line, we will keep getting the same results! First sign of madness and all that. Another one, just like clyde, moans his arse off about the amount written about Bojan without realising it's them writing half of it. He's a wum, just like when he was thegift.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 19, 2019 10:20:52 GMT
berahinosgoals - you really are coming across as a bit of a cockwomble buddy. That username, a fairly snide and targeted attack none stop on one of our players (who has only stated his frustration at not getting a chance when others, including your namesake idol, have had plenty and not delivered!) Give your head a wobble - we get it, you don't rate him, as it happens I don't rate about 8 of them, but I don't bang on about it - I turn up every week hoping we turn a corner (even just take a good one!) Given what we have witnessed under the managers you mention above, and the complete lack of creativity or skill from the blaggers who have played instead, fans just want some stardust, even a bit, and for the player to be given a fair crack of the whip over 5, 6, 7 games and not 20 mins every 4 weeks. If he cant do it, at least he has had his opportunity - but we wont know if he doesn't play. I do know that if we keep picking the same side, with the same stagnant midfield and forward line, we will keep getting the same results! First sign of madness and all that. Another one, just like clyde, moans his arse off about the amount written about Bojan without realising it's them writing half of it. He's a wum, just like when he was thegift. All you ever do is post shit like this. Get a fucking life you Muppet
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Post by elystokie on Feb 19, 2019 10:37:53 GMT
Another one, just like clyde, moans his arse off about the amount written about Bojan without realising it's them writing half of it. He's a wum, just like when he was thegift. All you ever do is post shit like this. Get a fucking life you Muppet Muppet?!? Are we back in the eighties? Haven't you got things to do on another thread? The one where you're defending the indefensible? Given up already?
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 19, 2019 10:41:07 GMT
All you ever do is post shit like this. Get a fucking life you Muppet Muppet?!? Are we back in the eighties? Haven't you got things to do on another thread? The one where you're defending the indefensible? Given up already? Go and take your face for a shit.
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Post by roylandstoke on Feb 19, 2019 10:50:02 GMT
berahinosgoals - you really are coming across as a bit of a cockwomble buddy. That username, a fairly snide and targeted attack none stop on one of our players (who has only stated his frustration at not getting a chance when others, including your namesake idol, have had plenty and not delivered!) Give your head a wobble - we get it, you don't rate him, as it happens I don't rate about 8 of them, but I don't bang on about it - I turn up every week hoping we turn a corner (even just take a good one!) Given what we have witnessed under the managers you mention above, and the complete lack of creativity or skill from the blaggers who have played instead, fans just want some stardust, even a bit, and for the player to be given a fair crack of the whip over 5, 6, 7 games and not 20 mins every 4 weeks. If he cant do it, at least he has had his opportunity - but we wont know if he doesn't play. I do know that if we keep picking the same side, with the same stagnant midfield and forward line, we will keep getting the same results! First sign of madness and all that. I couldn't give a shit mate, if he was that fucking good he'd be playing.I don't keep on about it either, I'm being replied too so I answer. It's like when your mate splits up with a fling who give him great sex for 3 month and the world has ended. Pining like lost puppies. How many of our current starters would you rate as "good" right now?
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Feb 19, 2019 10:51:17 GMT
Muppet?!? Are we back in the eighties? Haven't you got things to do on another thread? The one where you're defending the indefensible? Given up already? Go and take your face for a shit. You both need to get a grip. No need for insults. We all support the same team at the end of the day.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 10:54:33 GMT
I can safely conclude you haven't read the interview, which Bojan btw didn't ask for, Pete Smith came to him. In it Bojan says he's done with SCFC (as Pete says that's a statement Bojan will have hated making). He's not asking for special favours or anything, he just wants to move on, to one of the several offers that his agents arranged for him. Offers Bojan turned down, because he was led to believe he would play. It turned out to be not happening, so he's looking for another chance at those clubs. It's effectively an invitation for those clubs to come for him again, clubs in countries where the window isn't closed. Good let the little mardarse fuck off then. Sick of hearing about him, he's done jack shit for stoke other than 3 months of world class form, 3 months!!! You'd think he'd done it over a number of seasons like walters. He's been here since when? Presser might have gone to him but, you know.. don't you think you'd have a slight inkling that moaning to a journo it might end up in a paper? Thinks he should be playing but hasn't nailed down a place anywhere he has played since Barcelona. The sun shines out of his arse on here. He's been told he's in the plans 2 weeks ago, if that's not good enough then 👋 2 managers he's publicly moaned about now here, maybe Hughes aswell I can't remember. Jones is a young manager stepping up a league, trying his best with a shit hand and big expectations, he doesn't need his players moaning to journos, he needs them to knuckle down and them buying into his ideas Who?? As far as i can tell he hasn't moaned about a single one?? This was about the club telling him to stay.
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Post by elystokie on Feb 19, 2019 10:56:13 GMT
Muppet?!? Are we back in the eighties? Haven't you got things to do on another thread? The one where you're defending the indefensible? Given up already? Go and take your face for a shit. Eloquent with just a touch of class, I like it! You going to be sticking with this new style of posting?
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 19, 2019 11:04:17 GMT
Go and take your face for a shit. Eloquent with just a touch of class, I like it! You going to be sticking with this new style of posting? have you forgot your toothbrush?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 11:04:38 GMT
Muppet?!? Are we back in the eighties? Haven't you got things to do on another thread? The one where you're defending the indefensible? Given up already? Go and take your face for a shit.
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Post by elystokie on Feb 19, 2019 11:06:47 GMT
Eloquent with just a touch of class, I like it! You going to be sticking with this new style of posting? have you forgot your toothbrush? This is getting ridiculous now.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 19, 2019 11:09:47 GMT
Do you mean 76% of those who replied to the Sentinel or 76% of the supporter base? I wonder how many people actually voted!!! Do you really think someone has asked 28k fans? ![:-S](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kdD1n42dnzYd3v59eUB_.gif) What’s the point in posting and of highlighting in large bold font a meaningless percentage?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 19, 2019 11:12:52 GMT
Neither Bojan nor Berahino will be in the squad at the weekend if Jones hard line in discipline is to be believed , personally for me both would be in the team if Diouf isn’t but it’s about judgement and my logic is we desperately need 10 points and these are two of our bes5 players , off a low bar admittedly
Butland Bauer. Indi. Bhatt. Clucas Adam
Allen Etebo
Bojan Diouf / Berahino. Volkes
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Post by jimmygscfc on Feb 19, 2019 11:22:06 GMT
Eloquent with just a touch of class, I like it! You going to be sticking with this new style of posting? have you forgot your toothbrush? You're really showing yourself up now. If you want to be taken even slightly seriously then show a semblance of maturity. It's almost like you're self-destructing...
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 19, 2019 11:23:12 GMT
have you forgot your toothbrush? This is getting ridiculous now. If you can't take it, don't give it. Simple... calling everybody you don't agree with a wum without offering anything constructive.. You're the biggest 'wum' on the board.
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Post by thebet365 on Feb 19, 2019 11:35:54 GMT
Neither Bojan nor Berahino will be in the squad at the weekend if Jones hard line in discipline is to be believed , personally for me both would be in the team if Diouf isn’t but it’s about judgement and my logic is we desperately need 10 points and these are two of our bes5 players , off a low bar admittedly Butland Bauer. Indi. Bhatt. Clucas Adam Allen Etebo Bojan Diouf / Berahino. Volkes Sorry to piss on your chips but if your comment about desperately needing 10 points is in anyway trying to refer to relegation. Ipswich have managed 20 points from 33 games, they're not going to get 20 more points from their remaining 13 games never mind 30. Bolton have managed 5 points from their last 10 games they're not suddenly gonna pick up 24 points from their remaining 13 games. Rotherham, unbeaten in 4 games yet still only picked up 7 points in their last 10 games - plus the bulk of their points (23 from 17 games) are from home games of which they only have 6 left. They will finish around 42 points at best. I have no doubt we will pick up a further 10 points at least but the bottom 3 will get nowhere near 50 points this season, and only have done once in the last 10 years.
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Post by pavel on Feb 19, 2019 11:48:12 GMT
Good let the little mardarse fuck off then. Sick of hearing about him, he's done jack shit for stoke other than 3 months of world class form, 3 months!!! You'd think he'd done it over a number of seasons like walters. He's been here since when? Presser might have gone to him but, you know.. don't you think you'd have a slight inkling that moaning to a journo it might end up in a paper? Thinks he should be playing but hasn't nailed down a place anywhere he has played since Barcelona. The sun shines out of his arse on here. He's been told he's in the plans 2 weeks ago, if that's not good enough then 👋 2 managers he's publicly moaned about now here, maybe Hughes aswell I can't remember. Jones is a young manager stepping up a league, trying his best with a shit hand and big expectations, he doesn't need his players moaning to journos, he needs them to knuckle down and them buying into his ideas Who?? As far as i can tell he hasn't moaned about a single one?? This was about the club telling him to stay. Making it up as usual to suit his agenda
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Feb 19, 2019 12:10:28 GMT
Ultimately, Berahino'sgoals is a terrible poster all ends up. He has simplistic, bordering child-like logic behind his opinions, which he has repeatedly failed to back up beyond the embarrassingly reductivist "If He WaS GoOd He'D bE pLaYiNg".
He seems to think that simply repeating the same infantile opinion time and time again is how to win an argument. The fact that he's now becoming frustrated and angry when his terrible views are being pulled apart for the hundredth time suggest a level of emotional immaturity. Faced with overwhelming opposition to his garbage opinions, he still can't let it go. Although he bows out time and time again, he still comes back. It's almost like his ego is intrinstically linked to his disapproval of Bojan.
We've seen posters like this before, who paint themselves so feverishly into a corner in some desperate desire to be right that they daren't back down, but this chap is a spectacularly extreme example.
I think the best thing to do would be to just ignore him, and let him carry on thinking he's right. He's not harming anyone or anything other than his own reputation. We all see him as he is, a bit of an embarrassment, so let's just move on and the rest of us non-maniacs can enjoy sensible discussion again.
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Post by elystokie on Feb 19, 2019 12:12:12 GMT
This is getting ridiculous now. If you can't take it, don't give it. Simple... calling everybody you don't agree with a wum without offering anything constructive.. You're the biggest 'wum' on the board. Yeh you're right, your witty put downs and hilarious observations got the better of me and I just couldn't take it. I also thought people had probably had enough reading the childish shit, fishlovesoatcakes has a point. If you still have a problem pm me, I promise I won't ignore you and I'm free all day. Edit - Pretty little boother has expressed things far more eloquently than I could, he's certainly got your number.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Feb 19, 2019 12:24:51 GMT
If you can't take it, don't give it. Simple... calling everybody you don't agree with a wum without offering anything constructive.. You're the biggest 'wum' on the board. Yeh you're right, your witty put downs and hilarious observations got the better of me and I just couldn't take it. I also thought people had probably had enough reading the childish shit, fishlovesoatcakes has a point. If you still have a problem pm me, I promise I won't ignore you and I'm free all day. Edit - Pretty little boother has expressed things far more eloquently than I could, he's certainly got your number. ![](https://www.visitstoke.co.uk/imageresizer/?image=%2Fdmsimgs%2FIMG_1026_2058438942.JPG&action=ProductDetailNew)
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Post by nott1 on Feb 19, 2019 14:01:49 GMT
Do you really think someone has asked 28k fans? ![:-S](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kdD1n42dnzYd3v59eUB_.gif) What’s the point in posting and of highlighting in large bold font a meaningless percentage? Ask the Sentinel, they put it out there.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Feb 19, 2019 14:06:38 GMT
berahinosgoals - you really are coming across as a bit of a cockwomble buddy. That username, a fairly snide and targeted attack none stop on one of our players (who has only stated his frustration at not getting a chance when others, including your namesake idol, have had plenty and not delivered!) Give your head a wobble - we get it, you don't rate him, as it happens I don't rate about 8 of them, but I don't bang on about it - I turn up every week hoping we turn a corner (even just take a good one!) Given what we have witnessed under the managers you mention above, and the complete lack of creativity or skill from the blaggers who have played instead, fans just want some stardust, even a bit, and for the player to be given a fair crack of the whip over 5, 6, 7 games and not 20 mins every 4 weeks. If he cant do it, at least he has had his opportunity - but we wont know if he doesn't play. I do know that if we keep picking the same side, with the same stagnant midfield and forward line, we will keep getting the same results! First sign of madness and all that. I couldn't give a shit mate, if he was that fucking good he'd be playing. I don't keep on about it either, I'm being replied too so I answer. It's like when your mate splits up with a fling who give him great sex for 3 month and the world has ended. Pining like lost puppies. Never happened, you dont have any mates, never mind ones that ever had sex! Please use a real world analogy you can provide contractual and photo evidence about
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