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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 18, 2019 18:05:16 GMT
How do you know he doesn't want to have a good look at wince in that position before making a final decision on wether he wants him as part of the set up for next season?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 18:05:37 GMT
HOW. MANY. TIMES. Because we can't afford to play a creative, attacking player because the rest are so shit we have to have everyone fucking defending or we'll get hammered by a shite championship team. Because we didn't play a fucking diamond on Saturday did we because we're too shit to play a diamond so it had to be sacked off. How anyone could have watched the Hull game and thought Ince did a better job than Bojan is beyond me. How anyone can say we haven't looked better when he's played THIS season alone is beyond me. You are like a broken record and it's like you don't have eyes. Well you've answered your own question then. Maybe he views him as an ideal player for next season when he can play his system to effect so why is it bad club management? Honestly that is what I’d thought we weee just trying to get through to put some results on the board by hook or by crook. But the article states Bojan doesn’t know why. No-one has told him. So it doesn’t it doesn’t seem likely or even if is the case it’s not very good management is it? Especially if he’d been told he would play and asked to stay on that basis.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Feb 18, 2019 18:08:38 GMT
For fucks sake.
An actual united thread for once descending into utter bollocks yet again.
Bojans ability, present or current, is IRRELEVANT.
The issue is the club has lied to a player that had a move ready on the table, and has completely ostracised since, potentially to the detriment of the players career.
This is not acceptable whether the player is Bojan, Allen, Etebo or any of them, it’s a disgusting, snakey way of operating.
Why the fuck has this point not sunk in? The argument is against the club, not the player.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 18, 2019 18:09:06 GMT
Well you've answered your own question then. Maybe he views him as an ideal player for next season when he can play his system to effect so why is it bad club management? Honestly that is what I’d thought we weee just trying to get through to put some results on the board by hook or by crook. But the article states Bojan doesn’t know why. No-one has told him. So it doesn’t it doesn’t seem likely or even if is the case it’s not very good management is it? Especially if he’d been told he would play and asked to stay on that basis. How do you or how does he know he won't? Because he's not chucked in straight away after the window has shut? Maybe he's giving wince a fair crack of the whip to see if he's upto playing that position next season. Does a manager have to babysit his players every day? He's been told he's in the plans, So does NJ have to explain every week to him why he's not first choice?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 18:10:14 GMT
Honestly that is what I’d thought we weee just trying to get through to put some results on the board by hook or by crook. But the article states Bojan doesn’t know why. No-one has told him. So it doesn’t it doesn’t seem likely or even if is the case it’s not very good management is it? Especially if he’d been told he would play and asked to stay on that basis. How do you or how does he know he won't? Because he's not chucked in straight away after the window has shut? Maybe he's giving wince a fair crack of the whip to see if he's upto playing that position next season. Does a manager have to babysit his players every day? He's been told he's in the plans, So does NJ have to explain every week to him why he's not first choice? MANAGER. That’s his job title. Ince does fuck all. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. Your sole purpose it to wind everyone up cos it’s Bojan. And completely high Jack the point of the thread. From your posts on other threads you are clearly not an idiot which is why I think you do this to wind people up. You think it’s ok to lie to players and stop their careers progressing then good for you. Some of us aren’t too happy about it.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 18, 2019 18:12:15 GMT
How do you or how does he know he won't? Because he's not chucked in straight away after the window has shut? Maybe he's giving wince a fair crack of the whip to see if he's upto playing that position next season. Does a manager have to babysit his players every day? He's been told he's in the plans, So does NJ have to explain every week to him why he's not first choice? MANAGER. That’s his job title. He has told him he is part of his plans, that's a manager, managing
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Feb 18, 2019 18:14:20 GMT
Dear Nathan - whatever you do do not listen to the fans - they know nothing about running a professional football team. Trust your instincts, stick to your game plan and pick the players you believe can do the best job. If that pisses off 76% of the fans - tough. Just ignore them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 18:22:08 GMT
What has going to church or how fast he drives got to do with the price of fish? the same as what the price of fish has got to do with going to church and how fast he drives. Nathan is a devoted Christian, butter wouldn't melt in his mouth and this guy apparently has an agenda against bojan? Pisser He's just a pawn in the game.
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Post by stokesupporter on Feb 18, 2019 18:22:53 GMT
Dear Nathan - whatever you do do not listen to the fans - they know nothing about running a professional football team. Trust your instincts, stick to your game plan and pick the players you believe can do the best job. If that pisses off 76% of the fans - tough. Just ignore them. Dear Nathan, if you have promised Bojan that he'd be playing regularly first team football please keep your promise!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 18:25:40 GMT
For fucks sake. An actual united thread for once descending into utter bollocks yet again. Bojans ability, present or current, is IRRELEVANT. The issue is the club has lied to a player that had a move ready on the table, and has completely ostracised since, potentially to the detriment of the players career. This is not acceptable whether the player is Bojan, Allen, Etebo or any of them, it’s a disgusting, snakey way of operating. Why the fuck has this point not sunk in? The argument is against the club, not the player. It doesn't really matter to one person what it's all about. berahinosgoals has made up his mind that the thread should be about berahinosgoals, just like all the other times he makes his, cough, contributions.
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Post by tosh on Feb 18, 2019 18:26:44 GMT
Dear Nathan - whatever you do do not listen to the fans - they know nothing about running a professional football team. Trust your instincts, stick to your game plan and pick the players you believe can do the best job. If that pisses off 76% of the fans - tough. Just ignore them. Dear Nathan Might be better to ignore the above advice. The last manager only persistently pissed off 75% of the fans and you saw how that worked out,
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Post by stiggerstackle on Feb 18, 2019 18:37:33 GMT
Compare and contrast the relative treatment over the past year by SCFC of Bojan, the model professional that we have gone out of our way to ostracise and Berahino, the colossal spunk trumpet that we have gone out of our way to rehabilitate.
You really could not make it up.
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Post by str8outtahampton on Feb 18, 2019 18:51:53 GMT
Compare and contrast the relative treatment over the past year by SCFC of Bojan, the model professional that we have gone out of our way to ostracise and Berahino, the colossal spunk trumpet that we have gone out of our way to rehabilitate. You really could not make it up. And fortunately none of us needs to. The heavy lifting has been done by SCFC. Not for the first time. And here's a wild punt. Not for the last.
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Post by stokie223 on Feb 18, 2019 18:52:57 GMT
After Bojan returned from injury in 2015/16 he played 31 times and scored seven goals as we finished ninth. In 2016–17 he started just five league matches in six months!! Think about that, Ince has just started 4 consecutive league matches in a little over 2 weeks and has offered the square route of fuck all!!! McClean, Berahino, Afobe, Vokes etc etc are all given numerous consecutive appearances and chances yet Bojan, who scored 7 goals in 31 games in the Premier League doesn't get a sniff. Something is very very wrong. Surely even the biggest Bojan hater can see that??? THIS. We were, I believe, 7th in the Premier League when he was ostracised - and he was also our top goalscorer too. He gets judged to a MUCH higher standard than any other player, yet has had a tenth of the chances to perform. Unless he came on, scored two and assisted 3 then some people would be calling him finished. He is head and shoulders above Ince, McClean, Afobe (I could go on) all of whom have had chance after chance, producing relatively little.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 18, 2019 19:08:25 GMT
Compare and contrast the relative treatment over the past year by SCFC of Bojan, the model professional that we have gone out of our way to ostracise and Berahino, the colossal spunk trumpet that we have gone out of our way to rehabilitate. You really could not make it up. Great post, deserves a thread in its own right. Sums up how fucking disgusting our club has become.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 19:13:25 GMT
Dear Nathan - whatever you do do not listen to the fans - they know nothing about running a professional football team. Trust your instincts, stick to your game plan and pick the players you believe can do the best job. If that pisses off 76% of the fans - tough. Just ignore them. Yeah, 100% correct. All fans are know-nowt thickarses, it’s not like they called relegation from the Premier League 18 months before it happened. Or, see our Transfer ‘policy’ for what it is - a shambles. You can’t automatically assume that every manager knows everything.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 19:37:19 GMT
Honestly that is what I’d thought we weee just trying to get through to put some results on the board by hook or by crook. But the article states Bojan doesn’t know why. No-one has told him. So it doesn’t it doesn’t seem likely or even if is the case it’s not very good management is it? Especially if he’d been told he would play and asked to stay on that basis. How do you or how does he know he won't? Because he's not chucked in straight away after the window has shut? Maybe he's giving wince a fair crack of the whip to see if he's upto playing that position next season. Does a manager have to babysit his players every day? He's been told he's in the plans, So does NJ have to explain every week to him why he's not first choice? Not every day but just once would be decent. Now answer this: have you even read the interview?
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 18, 2019 20:22:55 GMT
How do you or how does he know he won't? Because he's not chucked in straight away after the window has shut? Maybe he's giving wince a fair crack of the whip to see if he's upto playing that position next season. Does a manager have to babysit his players every day? He's been told he's in the plans, So does NJ have to explain every week to him why he's not first choice? Not every day but just once would be decent. Now answer this: have you even read the interview? Of course I've read the interview. It's February the 18th, 2 whole weeks after the window has closed, a window where bojan was asked to stay as Jones sees him as his ideal number 10. So where have they apparently 'lied' to him? You said tell him once, they have told him once. What more do you want, does bojan want it in writing or something? Or are we saying he should be a guaranteed starter now & Jones isn't allowed to see if others can cut the position ahead of the summer transfer plans? Going to the press 2 weeks after the window closed, the window where he was asked to stay is a sure way to not get selected. Jones would be seen as bowing to a players demands, he won't play him V villa now and rightly so
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 20:58:23 GMT
Not every day but just once would be decent. Now answer this: have you even read the interview? Of course I've read the interview. It's February the 18th, 2 whole weeks after the window has closed, a window where bojan was asked to stay as Jones sees him as his ideal number 10. So where have they apparently 'lied' to him? You said tell him once, they have told him once. What more do you want, does bojan want it in writing or something? Or are we saying he should be a guaranteed starter now & Jones isn't allowed to see if others can cut the position ahead of the summer transfer plans? Going to the press 2 weeks after the window closed, the window where he was asked to stay is a sure way to not get selected. Jones would be seen as bowing to a players demands, he won't play him V villa now and rightly so You’re insufferable. He got 60 mins where he played WELL. He passed the ball forwards and accurately. I will forgive you for forgetting this is the point of the game and being unable to appreciate it as we haven’t seen it for so long you’ve probably forgotten what it looks like and what it achieves. His competition is infinitely shitter and has achieved fuck all in 3 games and 30 mins. You can’t justify the treatment of him whether you like Bojan or not.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 18, 2019 21:08:08 GMT
Of course I've read the interview. It's February the 18th, 2 whole weeks after the window has closed, a window where bojan was asked to stay as Jones sees him as his ideal number 10. So where have they apparently 'lied' to him? You said tell him once, they have told him once. What more do you want, does bojan want it in writing or something? Or are we saying he should be a guaranteed starter now & Jones isn't allowed to see if others can cut the position ahead of the summer transfer plans? Going to the press 2 weeks after the window closed, the window where he was asked to stay is a sure way to not get selected. Jones would be seen as bowing to a players demands, he won't play him V villa now and rightly so You’re insufferable. He got 60 mins where he played WELL. He passed the ball forwards and accurately. I will forgive you for forgetting this is the point of the game and being unable to appreciate it as we haven’t seen it for so long you’ve probably forgotten what it looks like and what it achieves. His competition is infinitely shitter and has achieved fuck all in 3 games and 30 mins. You can’t justify the treatment of him whether you like Bojan or not. This "treatment" is all in your mind. Player was told 2 week ago he's in the plans. Now he needs to knuckle down and make himself undroppable when he gets his chance, just like the rest of them should be doing. Instead, 2 weeks after he's told he's moaning in the press. If I was Jones he wouldn't even be on the bench next game following this, if he's got issues he should take it up with the manager face to face not try to pile the pressure on him via the media (again).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 21:15:23 GMT
You’re insufferable. He got 60 mins where he played WELL. He passed the ball forwards and accurately. I will forgive you for forgetting this is the point of the game and being unable to appreciate it as we haven’t seen it for so long you’ve probably forgotten what it looks like and what it achieves. His competition is infinitely shitter and has achieved fuck all in 3 games and 30 mins. You can’t justify the treatment of him whether you like Bojan or not. This "treatment" is all in your mind. Player was told 2 week ago he's in the plans. Now he needs to knuckle down and make himself undroppable when he gets his chance, just like the rest of them should be doing. Instead, 2 weeks after he's told he's moaning in the press. If I was Jones he wouldn't even be on the bench next game following this, if he's got issues he should take it up with the manager face to face not try to pile the pressure on him via the media (again). If you were Jones you’d be at a police station in London trying to bail Berahino out of jail 🙄 being stopped from leaving is not the same as being told he’s in some half assed plans. Having to watch someone who is bordering on useless every time they play get repeated chances despite the fact that you played better than them in the short time you’d played is not the same as “not taking your chance”.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 18, 2019 21:28:14 GMT
This "treatment" is all in your mind. Player was told 2 week ago he's in the plans. Now he needs to knuckle down and make himself undroppable when he gets his chance, just like the rest of them should be doing. Instead, 2 weeks after he's told he's moaning in the press. If I was Jones he wouldn't even be on the bench next game following this, if he's got issues he should take it up with the manager face to face not try to pile the pressure on him via the media (again). If you were Jones you’d be at a police station in London trying to bail Berahino out of jail 🙄 being stopped from leaving is not the same as being told he’s in some half assed plans. Having to watch someone who is bordering on useless every time they play get repeated chances despite the fact that you played better than them in the short time you’d played is not the same as “not taking your chance”. I've got nothing else to say, my last 2 posts are my viewpoint.
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Post by wakeypotter on Feb 18, 2019 21:45:26 GMT
This all shows how rotten this club is at the minute. There’s no doubt bojan should be given a chance to prove himself.i wouldn’t be surprised now if he got the chance he would fail because he needs a arm round his shoulder not leaving out in the cold and with false promises. I can’t see y the 24 per cent of supporters think he shouldn’t be in the next team like to know there reasons why given the shit we have been producing week in week out. I’ve come to the conclusion that some stoke fans really don’t like him for some strange reason.
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 18, 2019 22:26:45 GMT
If you were Jones you’d be at a police station in London trying to bail Berahino out of jail 🙄 being stopped from leaving is not the same as being told he’s in some half assed plans. Having to watch someone who is bordering on useless every time they play get repeated chances despite the fact that you played better than them in the short time you’d played is not the same as “not taking your chance”. I've got nothing else to say, my last 2 posts are my viewpoint. That's a relief.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 18, 2019 22:32:53 GMT
If you were Jones you’d be at a police station in London trying to bail Berahino out of jail 🙄 being stopped from leaving is not the same as being told he’s in some half assed plans. Having to watch someone who is bordering on useless every time they play get repeated chances despite the fact that you played better than them in the short time you’d played is not the same as “not taking your chance”. I've got nothing else to say, my last 2 posts are my viewpoint.
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Post by elystokie on Feb 18, 2019 22:52:28 GMT
I've got nothing else to say, my last 2 posts are my viewpoint. Let's not get too excited. He lies like a hairy egg.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 18, 2019 23:25:13 GMT
Do you mean 76% of those who replied to the Sentinel or 76% of the supporter base? I wonder how many people actually voted!!!
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Post by tosh on Feb 18, 2019 23:37:09 GMT
Do you mean 76% of those who replied to the Sentinel or 76% of the supporter base? I wonder how many people actually voted!!! Don’t give a damn. Get him in Nathan before you start hearing the ole oles and the dreaded Rowett Football Appreciation Anthem! Can’t be too far away at this rate, with goals rarer than hens teeth?
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Post by pottarius on Feb 19, 2019 0:22:37 GMT
For fucks sake. An actual united thread for once descending into utter bollocks yet again. Bojans ability, present or current, is IRRELEVANT. The issue is the club has lied to a player that had a move ready on the table, and has completely ostracised since, potentially to the detriment of the players career. This is not acceptable whether the player is Bojan, Allen, Etebo or any of them, it’s a disgusting, snakey way of operating. Why the fuck has this point not sunk in? The argument is against the club, not the player. Attachment Deleted
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Post by musik on Feb 19, 2019 1:09:44 GMT
I'm surprised he's still here.
Only played in 20+ of the last 120+ matches.
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