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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 15:39:31 GMT
You're like an old grammophone record, can only play one and the same groove over and over again. You asked this stupid question a couple of times in this thread already, in fact you've asked this question in every single Bojan thread - and there's quite a few of them. If someone puts up a new Bojan thread, your question is guaranteed to come up at some point. Do you not see the irony in your own post bearing in mind this player has not done anything of note for 3 years? Do you notice the ignorance in your question bearing in mind it has been explained to you dozens of times? Or are you telling me that you are too stupid to understand it?
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 18, 2019 15:40:42 GMT
No firm offers though ? Give him away he's fuckin useless. I present to you a quote from the very article that sparked the whole thread as you seem incapable of finding your way to actually read it yourself. "I never want to speak to the press about these things but now I’m in this situation that I can’t accept anymore. I had an offer in January to go which I think was fair for everyone but they didn’t let me go, perhaps scared about the reaction from fans because they know the fans love me."
"I had an offer in January to go which I think was fair for everyone but they didn’t let me go, perhaps scared about the reaction from fans because they know the fans love me."
"I had an offer in January to go which I think was fair for everyone but they didn’t let me go"
"I had an offer in January"
"I had an offer"
"Offer"
Fair to who Fair to bojan Fair to the new club Fair to stoke If the answer to any of them is no than he sits where he is it’s not if he’s on poverty wages There is not a player at stoke who is not for sale if the purchasing club offers the value stoke believe there worth Why should stoke give him away just to be nice If they did the very same people would be slating stoke for not getting a decent fee
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 15:43:55 GMT
Well it's only as unlucky as we've been as fans. We've had 3 failed managers in the last 3 attempts before Jones. Unless you disagree with that? i believe mark hughes failed at stoke, the damage had been done before lambert arrived, Rowett took the flack and NJ is arriving at a time when the fans are realising the squad wasnt actually that good to begin with. Players make their own luck. Do they? So for example, when TP played Shotton and Walters over Jerome and Pennant, that was players making their own luck? Absolute rubbish, it's easy to exclude a Bojan from your squad if you're a coward, especially when you have a team low on confidence. It's the classic 'back to basics' bollocks that killed us under Hughes after that bad run at the start of 2016/17. Rowett had him training in the U23s, whilst Darren Fletcher, Peter Crouch, Martina, etc barely put in one good performance between them over the whole season. Lambert didn't bring him back whilst starting Peter Crouch, who had 4 shots on target in 12 games. Hughes sent him out on loan whilst struggling to score and playing Jese and Ramadan. Rowett was wank, Lambert failed in the easiest relegation avoidance in history and Hughes completely ruined his own team through cowardice.
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Post by misii30 on Feb 18, 2019 15:57:00 GMT
I present to you a quote from the very article that sparked the whole thread as you seem incapable of finding your way to actually read it yourself. "I never want to speak to the press about these things but now I’m in this situation that I can’t accept anymore. I had an offer in January to go which I think was fair for everyone but they didn’t let me go, perhaps scared about the reaction from fans because they know the fans love me."
"I had an offer in January to go which I think was fair for everyone but they didn’t let me go, perhaps scared about the reaction from fans because they know the fans love me."
"I had an offer in January to go which I think was fair for everyone but they didn’t let me go"
"I had an offer in January"
"I had an offer"
"Offer"
Fair to who Fair to bojan Fair to the new club Fair to stoke If the answer to any of them is no than he sits where he is it’s not if he’s on poverty wages There is not a player at stoke who is not for sale if the purchasing club offers the value stoke believe there worth Why should stoke give him away just to be nice If they did the very same people would be slating stoke for not getting a decent fee We only have Bojan's side and he's telling us he thought the offer was fair for everyone. Until we know more (if ever) all we can do is guess. However the point of the post wasn't to state if the offer was any good; it was that there at least was concrete interest and an offer (fair or not) was made in the first place.
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Post by jeycov on Feb 18, 2019 15:59:56 GMT
Enquiries maybe. Offers ? Fucking zero. There was an offer on the table you pipe, and Stoke blocked it. That's what this whole thread is all about. Maybe there is a potential deal in the MLS still on the table and he’s going to take up the offer, even though he would prefer to stay
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 16:04:16 GMT
There was an offer on the table you pipe, and Stoke blocked it. That's what this whole thread is all about. Maybe there is a potential deal in the MLS still on the table and he’s going to take up the offer, even though he would prefer to stay I think you might be right - I don't think he would have given that interview to be asking to play but setting the scene for what may transpire over the next few weeks. The club will need to act now one way or other. Such a shame when he seemed so excited to be staying and finally getting his chance. All the best to him if he does go but what an utter fuck up this will have all been.
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Post by nott1 on Feb 18, 2019 16:04:24 GMT
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 18, 2019 16:05:10 GMT
Do you not see the irony in your own post bearing in mind this player has not done anything of note for 3 years? Do you notice the ignorance in your question bearing in mind it has been explained to you dozens of times? Or are you telling me that you are too stupid to understand it? It's been explained from an incredibly biased point of view. The player is done, finito. You've got to be stupid to not see it for what it is. He can't cut it anymore is why he doesn't get in, that's the ONLY reason.
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 18, 2019 16:06:18 GMT
That makes it less likely that he will be then!
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Post by nott1 on Feb 18, 2019 16:08:04 GMT
You're in the minority berohino'slackofgoals so shut up.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 18, 2019 16:08:45 GMT
You're in the minority berohino'slackofgoals so shut up. Sorry,linus
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Post by misii30 on Feb 18, 2019 16:13:06 GMT
Do you notice the ignorance in your question bearing in mind it has been explained to you dozens of times? Or are you telling me that you are too stupid to understand it? It's been explained from an incredibly biased point of view. The player is done, finito. You've got to be stupid to not see it for what it is. He can't cut it anymore is why he doesn't get in, that's the ONLY reason. Sorry I just can't take it very seriously from a source that thinks Saido Berahino is our best player in an attacking midfield position.
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Post by nott1 on Feb 18, 2019 16:17:21 GMT
It's been explained from an incredibly biased point of view. The player is done, finito. You've got to be stupid to not see it for what it is. He can't cut it anymore is why he doesn't get in, that's the ONLY reason. Sorry I just can't take it very seriously from a source that thinks Saido Berahino is our best player in an attacking midfield position. Must be a West Brom fan, that's the only place he scored.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 16:19:47 GMT
Do you notice the ignorance in your question bearing in mind it has been explained to you dozens of times? Or are you telling me that you are too stupid to understand it? It's been explained from an incredibly biased point of view. The player is done, finito. You've got to be stupid to not see it for what it is. He can't cut it anymore is why he doesn't get in, that's the ONLY reason. Then why did he play well the last time he started for us which was a few weeks ago?
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Post by str8outtahampton on Feb 18, 2019 16:27:12 GMT
Do you notice the ignorance in your question bearing in mind it has been explained to you dozens of times? Or are you telling me that you are too stupid to understand it? It's been explained from an incredibly biased point of view. The player is done, finito. You've got to be stupid to not see it for what it is. He can't cut it anymore is why he doesn't get in, that's the ONLY reason. In which case it would be stupid, perverse, illogical and self-harming not to sell him. There are three choices. 1. He might be good enough to be given a chance (in a side that is (let's put it charitably) struggling for goals). 2. He's past it. Let's get rid. 3. Neither of the above. Let's keep him warming the bench. And by the end of the Summer window we will be £700k lighter (someone did the arithmetic above). Opting for the third (in the absence of a plausible reason) simply looks weird. Even by the biblically inept standards of SCFC.
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Post by pavel on Feb 18, 2019 16:32:46 GMT
Do you notice the ignorance in your question bearing in mind it has been explained to you dozens of times? Or are you telling me that you are too stupid to understand it? It's been explained from an incredibly biased point of view. The player is done, finito. You've got to be stupid to not see it for what it is. He can't cut it anymore is why he doesn't get in, that's the ONLY reason. Yeah just keep making it up, we believe you, we really do!!!
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Feb 18, 2019 16:38:50 GMT
Do you notice the ignorance in your question bearing in mind it has been explained to you dozens of times? Or are you telling me that you are too stupid to understand it? It's been explained from an incredibly biased point of view. The player is done, finito. You've got to be stupid to not see it for what it is. He can't cut it anymore is why he doesn't get in, that's the ONLY reason. the best football we have played this season has been when he has been on the pitch, which suggests that he is not done. if he had been given the game time that many have this season, I think this "he's done" myth would have been put to bed by now. and we might even be a little higher up the league.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 18, 2019 17:00:15 GMT
It's been explained from an incredibly biased point of view. The player is done, finito. You've got to be stupid to not see it for what it is. He can't cut it anymore is why he doesn't get in, that's the ONLY reason. In which case it would be stupid, perverse, illogical and self-harming not to sell him. There are three choices. 1. He might be good enough to be given a chance (in a side that is (let's put it charitably) struggling for goals). 2. He's past it. Let's get rid. 3. Neither of the above. Let's keep him warming the bench. And by the end of the Summer window we will be £700k lighter (someone did the arithmetic above). Opting for the third (in the absence of a plausible reason) simply looks weird. Even by the biblically inept standards of SCFC. It was me who did the maths - and we'll be £700K lighter by the end of June. By the end of the summer window we'd be well over £1 million lighter!
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 18, 2019 17:20:28 GMT
Terminado amigos❗🤠
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Post by str8outtahampton on Feb 18, 2019 17:21:40 GMT
In which case it would be stupid, perverse, illogical and self-harming not to sell him. There are three choices. 1. He might be good enough to be given a chance (in a side that is (let's put it charitably) struggling for goals). 2. He's past it. Let's get rid. 3. Neither of the above. Let's keep him warming the bench. And by the end of the Summer window we will be £700k lighter (someone did the arithmetic above). Opting for the third (in the absence of a plausible reason) simply looks weird. Even by the biblically inept standards of SCFC. It was me who did the maths - and we'll be £700K lighter by the end of June. By the end of the summer window we'd be well over £1 million lighter! I'll take your word for it. And I think you and I probably agree that the money is not the issue. Just an illustration of how absurd the issue is. Nevertheless, £700k is (a) a lot of money (and season tickets as you noted), or (b) about a day's pay for Denise. Take your pick.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 18, 2019 17:30:48 GMT
It's been explained from an incredibly biased point of view. The player is done, finito. You've got to be stupid to not see it for what it is. He can't cut it anymore is why he doesn't get in, that's the ONLY reason. Then why did he play well the last time he started for us which was a few weeks ago? That's a matter of opinion and how rose tinted your spectacles are. Plenty said he wasnt special. So what you're saying is our nathan who goes to church every sunday and probably drives there at the speed of a vicar aswell has an agenda against our little bojan? Why? Tell me why?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 17:32:23 GMT
Then why did he play well the last time he started for us which was a few weeks ago? That's a matter of opinion and how rose tinted your spectacles are. Plenty said he wasnt special. So what you're saying is our nathan who goes to church every sunday and probably drives there at the speed of a vicar aswell has an agenda against our little bojan? Why? Tell me why? Why did west brom want him? You are talking rubbish. He is far from finished but anyway, how can you say that when he hasn't had a proper run?
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Feb 18, 2019 17:34:59 GMT
Then why did he play well the last time he started for us which was a few weeks ago? That's a matter of opinion and how rose tinted your spectacles are. Plenty said he wasnt special. So what you're saying is our nathan who goes to church every sunday and probably drives there at the speed of a vicar aswell has an agenda against our little bojan? Why? Tell me why? What has going to church or how fast he drives got to do with the price of fish?
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 18, 2019 17:37:09 GMT
That's a matter of opinion and how rose tinted your spectacles are. Plenty said he wasnt special. So what you're saying is our nathan who goes to church every sunday and probably drives there at the speed of a vicar aswell has an agenda against our little bojan? Why? Tell me why? What has going to church or how fast he drives got to do with the price of fish? the same as what the price of fish has got to do with going to church and how fast he drives. Nathan is a devoted Christian, butter wouldn't melt in his mouth and this guy apparently has an agenda against bojan? Pisser
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 18, 2019 17:40:28 GMT
There is only one reason for agendas at SCFC and that's towards anyone who Dunna play twinkle toes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 17:40:38 GMT
What has going to church or how fast he drives got to do with the price of fish? the same as what the price of fish has got to do with going to church and how fast he drives. Nathan is a devoted Christian, butter wouldn't melt in his mouth and this guy apparently has an agenda against bojan? Pisser Plenty of christians are arseholes Not that I think NJ is, I just think he wanted to be able to switch to 433 in game, so he went with Ince. Hopefully that changes ASAP.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Feb 18, 2019 17:43:02 GMT
What has going to church or how fast he drives got to do with the price of fish? the same as what the price of fish has got to do with going to church and how fast he drives. Nathan is a devoted Christian, butter wouldn't melt in his mouth and this guy apparently has an agenda against bojan? Pisser Who says he has an agenda, I thought people were just hypothosisng why Bojan hasn't had more opportunities based on the shite that is being served up by the rest of the squad. Being a devout Christian has nothing to do with his abilities as a footbal manager so let's leave religion out of of things.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 18, 2019 17:50:03 GMT
the same as what the price of fish has got to do with going to church and how fast he drives. Nathan is a devoted Christian, butter wouldn't melt in his mouth and this guy apparently has an agenda against bojan? Pisser Who says he has an agenda, I thought people were just hypothosisng why Bojan hasn't had more opportunities based on the shite that is being served up by the rest of the squad. Being a devout Christian has nothing to do with his abilities as a footbal manager so let's leave religion out of of things. Tell me why nobody plays him then, there can only be 1 of 3 logical explanations. 1) doesn't do enough in his role for the team effort or 2) he hasn't got what it takes mentaly or physically to hold down a regular place or 3) he doesn't rate him. This is a manager who wants to play an attacking brand of football, so why can't he get in there? He simply can't be upto it for one of the reasons above. There is no other reason, why would you risk upsetting the (some) fans if he was as good as (some) people think & supposedly perfect for your preferred system?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 17:57:50 GMT
Who says he has an agenda, I thought people were just hypothosisng why Bojan hasn't had more opportunities based on the shite that is being served up by the rest of the squad. Being a devout Christian has nothing to do with his abilities as a footbal manager so let's leave religion out of of things. Tell me why nobody plays him then, there can only be 1 of 3 logical explanations. 1) doesn't do enough in his role for the team effort or 2) he hasn't got what it takes mentaly or physically to hold down a regular place or 3) he doesn't rate him. This is a manager who wants to play an attacking brand of football, so why can't he get in there? He simply can't be upto it for one of the reasons above. There is no other reason, why would you risk upsetting the (some) fans if he was as good as (some) people think & supposedly perfect for your preferred system? HOW. MANY. TIMES. Because we can't afford to play a creative, attacking player because the rest are so shit we have to have everyone fucking defending or we'll get hammered by a shite championship team. Because we didn't play a fucking diamond on Saturday did we because we're too shit to play a diamond so it had to be sacked off. How anyone could have watched the Hull game and thought Ince did a better job than Bojan is beyond me. How anyone can say we haven't looked better when he's played THIS season alone is beyond me. You are like a broken record and it's like you don't have eyes.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 18, 2019 18:00:53 GMT
Tell me why nobody plays him then, there can only be 1 of 3 logical explanations. 1) doesn't do enough in his role for the team effort or 2) he hasn't got what it takes mentaly or physically to hold down a regular place or 3) he doesn't rate him. This is a manager who wants to play an attacking brand of football, so why can't he get in there? He simply can't be upto it for one of the reasons above. There is no other reason, why would you risk upsetting the (some) fans if he was as good as (some) people think & supposedly perfect for your preferred system? HOW. MANY. TIMES. Because we can't afford to play a creative, attacking player because the rest are so shit we have to have everyone fucking defending or we'll get hammered by a shite championship team. Because we didn't play a fucking diamond on Saturday did we because we're too shit to play a diamond so it had to be sacked off. How anyone could have watched the Hull game and thought Ince did a better job than Bojan is beyond me. How anyone can say we haven't looked better when he's played THIS season alone is beyond me. You are like a broken record and it's like you don't have eyes. Well you've answered your own question then. Maybe he views him as an ideal player for next season when he can play his system to effect so why is it bad club management in not letting him go?
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