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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 6, 2019 16:04:05 GMT
I really don't have the same belief in Bojan as a lot of posters here, but that said nothing would make me happier than see him succeed at Stoke. What belief do you have in any of our squad at the moment? At least some of them.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Feb 6, 2019 16:06:09 GMT
What disappoints me most is how he controls a ball and looks around for a pass.
I prefer those who miscontrol it and have to tackle to get it back, even if it means conceding a free kick!
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Post by elystokie on Feb 6, 2019 16:14:08 GMT
I really don't have the same belief in Bojan as a lot of posters here, but that said nothing would make me happier than see him succeed at Stoke. Strange that you never mentioned it...
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Post by kustokie on Feb 6, 2019 16:16:45 GMT
Has he?
Where have you got this from...or is it just another "He hasn't been starting, so i'll just presume why myself and state it as fact"?
Kevin Phillips said Berahino is happy to turn up late and pay fines for being late which I think is where it has come from. It was suggested people had felt this was unacceptable. Whether it’s the reason he’s been bombed out who knows but the time keeping and disclipline remarks came from Kevin Philips on Talk Sport (I think) I am old school when it comes to showing up late. Lock the door and fine him a week’s wages. If his agent complains - “see you in court”. Sorted.
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Post by thebet365 on Feb 6, 2019 16:28:13 GMT
Kevin Phillips said Berahino is happy to turn up late and pay fines for being late which I think is where it has come from. It was suggested people had felt this was unacceptable. Whether it’s the reason he’s been bombed out who knows but the time keeping and disclipline remarks came from Kevin Philips on Talk Sport (I think) I am old school when it comes to showing up late. Lock the door and fine him a week’s wages. If his agent complains - “see you in court”. Sorted. So is NJ, he mentioned in his 1st interview that he has standards that he expects his players to abide by.
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Post by thehoof on Feb 6, 2019 16:34:34 GMT
Your number 10 is not usually a defender. good teams defend from the front, we arn't good enough to have 10 +1 luxury player against wba, as sad as it sounds. Bojan's boys will never get it though. If we go toe to toe against wba they will outscore us 3 to 1 I’ll bet you don’t see Rodriguez or Gayle in the WBA half all game. Why is that do you think?
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Post by thehoof on Feb 6, 2019 16:38:46 GMT
Heat map from Preston, anyone? I'm dubious about this diamond including Bojan. I don’t understand the point you are trying to make- if it’s with regard to Bojan, well we really should have won as that would have meant we had 12 players on the pitch?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2019 16:40:43 GMT
good teams defend from the front, we arn't good enough to have 10 +1 luxury player against wba, as sad as it sounds. Bojan's boys will never get it though. If we go toe to toe against wba they will outscore us 3 to 1 I’ll bet you don’t see Rodriguez or Gayle in the WBA half all game. Why is that do you think? They are luxury players. I don't know who they think they are wanting to get the ball forward and score goals. They should not be allowed to play if they are not getting back making goal line clearances - would do they expect to do that? The defenders? Oh and they've been so much worse since their injury and the are past it. WBA will be all the better the day they are sold.
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 6, 2019 17:12:09 GMT
I really don't have the same belief in Bojan as a lot of posters here, but that said nothing would make me happier than see him succeed at Stoke. Strange that you never mentioned it... I like lying low you know.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 6, 2019 17:31:55 GMT
good teams defend from the front, we arn't good enough to have 10 +1 luxury player against wba, as sad as it sounds. Bojan's boys will never get it though. If we go toe to toe against wba they will outscore us 3 to 1 I’ll bet you don’t see Rodriguez or Gayle in the WBA half all game. Why is that do you think? Because we are shit and they probably don't need to be?
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 6, 2019 17:38:56 GMT
I’ll bet you don’t see Rodriguez or Gayle in the WBA half all game. Why is that do you think? They are luxury players. I don't know who they think they are wanting to get the ball forward and score goals. They should not be allowed to play if they are not getting back making goal line clearances - would do they expect to do that? The defenders? Oh and they've been so much worse since their injury and the are past it. WBA will be all the better the day they are sold. Only Gayle and rodriguez do it... ours..er..well...don't, do they? So let's have 2 up top against a free scoring west brom side and a number 10 that does nowt but float about.. defo 3 points 👍 . Simple logic, if you can't outscore them, stop them from scoring. I think we'll see NJ will alter from the diamond for this one, or if he doesn't, he will have done by half time
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2019 18:46:54 GMT
They are luxury players. I don't know who they think they are wanting to get the ball forward and score goals. They should not be allowed to play if they are not getting back making goal line clearances - would do they expect to do that? The defenders? Oh and they've been so much worse since their injury and the are past it. WBA will be all the better the day they are sold. Only Gayle and rodriguez do it... ours..er..well...don't, do they? So let's have 2 up top against a free scoring west brom side and a number 10 that does nowt but float about.. defo 3 points 👍 . Simple logic, if you can't outscore them, stop them from scoring. I think we'll see NJ will alter from the diamond for this one, or if he doesn't, he will have done by half time I thought you were saying Bojan shouldn't play at No. 10 not Ince...;-)
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 6, 2019 20:18:59 GMT
Only Gayle and rodriguez do it... ours..er..well...don't, do they? So let's have 2 up top against a free scoring west brom side and a number 10 that does nowt but float about.. defo 3 points 👍 . Simple logic, if you can't outscore them, stop them from scoring. I think we'll see NJ will alter from the diamond for this one, or if he doesn't, he will have done by half time I thought you were saying Bojan shouldn't play at No. 10 not Ince...;-) Didn't realise they were playing tonight.. we will have had a longer rest than these lot aswell as time to prepare.. let's hope it shows
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Feb 7, 2019 7:58:33 GMT
Your number 10 is not usually a defender. good teams defend from the front, we arn't good enough to have 10 +1 luxury player against wba, as sad as it sounds. Bojan's boys will never get it though. If we go toe to toe against wba they will outscore us 3 to 1 And this sort of mentality contributed to us going down a division
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 7, 2019 8:01:31 GMT
good teams defend from the front, we arn't good enough to have 10 +1 luxury player against wba, as sad as it sounds. Bojan's boys will never get it though. If we go toe to toe against wba they will outscore us 3 to 1 And this sort of mentality contributed to us going down a division No it didn't, what contributed to us going down a division was hanging onto a shit manager & over the hill players for far too long and signing shit players that were not capable of winning football matches as a group or even wanting to play for stoke
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Post by tosh on Feb 7, 2019 11:20:31 GMT
And this sort of mentality contributed to us going down a division No it didn't, what contributed to us going down a division was hanging onto a shit manager & over the hill players for far too long and signing shit players that were not capable of winning football matches as a group or even wanting to play for stoke Relegation caused through “signing shit players not capable of winning football matches and not wanting to play for Stoke”. Some truth in that but a slightly strange statement to put on a Bojan thread from someone inspired to choose as his user name berahinosgoals. In terms of talent, attitude, loyalty and commitment to Stoke City Bojan possesses everything which Berahino lacks. The absence of “Berahino’s goals” and his couldn’t care less attitude contributed massively to our demise.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 7, 2019 11:45:11 GMT
No it didn't, what contributed to us going down a division was hanging onto a shit manager & over the hill players for far too long and signing shit players that were not capable of winning football matches as a group or even wanting to play for stoke Relegation caused through “signing shit players not capable of winning football matches and not wanting to play for Stoke”. Some truth in that but a slightly strange statement to put on a Bojan thread from someone inspired to choose as his user name berahinosgoals. In terms of talent, attitude, loyalty and commitment to Stoke City Bojan possesses everything which Berahino lacks. The absence of “Berahino’s goals” and his couldn’t care less attitude contributed massively to our demise. No strikers will score goals if you don't give them chances, what's bojans excuse for the past 3 years at 3 different clubs for making zero impact? Wether you like him or not Berahino has been one of the better performers this season when played. I'd like to see him tried alongside vokes. If it works you have to just let the guy paying his fines, fuller was no choir boy. "Ric is Ric" was a popular quote.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 11:52:30 GMT
Relegation caused through “signing shit players not capable of winning football matches and not wanting to play for Stoke”. Some truth in that but a slightly strange statement to put on a Bojan thread from someone inspired to choose as his user name berahinosgoals. In terms of talent, attitude, loyalty and commitment to Stoke City Bojan possesses everything which Berahino lacks. The absence of “Berahino’s goals” and his couldn’t care less attitude contributed massively to our demise. No strikers will score goals if you don't give them chances, what's bojans excuse for the past 3 years at 3 different clubs for making zero impact? Wether you like him or not Berahino has been one of the better performers this season when played. I'd like to see him tried alongside vokes You do realise that Bojan is not generally played as a striker? And also that if you go back 3 years to the 2016/17 season he scored 3 goals in 9 games and that's not counting the five months that would have been the start of 2016 in the 2015/16 season where he scored 7 goals in 27 games. And that this season he's hardly played and when has he's been inexplicably played deep midfield and still managed to score a goal...
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Post by vahl on Feb 7, 2019 12:05:29 GMT
Heat map from Preston, anyone? I'm dubious about this diamond including Bojan. Bit harsh to say he didn’t do anything v Preston when he didn’t even play mate... That is the point. Including Bojan, what are we doing better? The Preston match should say something at least. Don't tell me it's only 2 matches being compared (preston without, hull with) and it's unfair because it's really not.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 7, 2019 12:11:02 GMT
No strikers will score goals if you don't give them chances, what's bojans excuse for the past 3 years at 3 different clubs for making zero impact? Wether you like him or not Berahino has been one of the better performers this season when played. I'd like to see him tried alongside vokes You do realise that Bojan is not generally played as a striker? And also that if you go back 3 years to the 2016/17 season he scored 3 goals in 9 games and that's not counting the five months that would have been the start of 2016 in the 2015/16 season where he scored 7 goals in 27 games. And that this season he's hardly played and when has he's been inexplicably played deep midfield and still managed to score a goal... Hughes shipped bojan out on loan, the man that brought him, he was in the same bracket as imbula, he was lazy And did fuck all. Hughes got pissed off with him and sent him packing with imbula. He's done jack shit since, anywhere.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 12:12:27 GMT
Bit harsh to say he didn’t do anything v Preston when he didn’t even play mate... That is the point. Including Bojan, what are we doing better? The Preston match should say something at least. Don't tell me it's only 2 matches being compared (preston without, hull with) and it's unfair because it's really not. You're the one that's dubious about Bojan after one match (which despite the fact that anyone who actually saw it will tell you was a million miles better than Preston and he was a big part of that but as you say let's not compare after one match. Better just write him off now and assume inccorectly he did fuck all).
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 7, 2019 12:28:28 GMT
Bit harsh to say he didn’t do anything v Preston when he didn’t even play mate... That is the point. Including Bojan, what are we doing better? The Preston match should say something at least. Don't tell me it's only 2 matches being compared (preston without, hull with) and it's unfair because it's really not. The manager has been here for what, five games?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 7, 2019 12:29:53 GMT
You can’t compare Berahino to Ric. There’s a reason why one was allowed to get away with murder and the other isn’t, and I say that as someone who thinks Berahino’s performances this season have overall been pretty good.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 13:32:56 GMT
Relegation caused through “signing shit players not capable of winning football matches and not wanting to play for Stoke”. Some truth in that but a slightly strange statement to put on a Bojan thread from someone inspired to choose as his user name berahinosgoals. In terms of talent, attitude, loyalty and commitment to Stoke City Bojan possesses everything which Berahino lacks. The absence of “Berahino’s goals” and his couldn’t care less attitude contributed massively to our demise. No strikers will score goals if you don't give them chances, what's bojans excuse for the past 3 years at 3 different clubs for making zero impact? Wether you like him or not Berahino has been one of the better performers this season when played. I'd like to see him tried alongside vokes. If it works you have to just let the guy paying his fines, fuller was no choir boy. "Ric is Ric" was a popular quote. Have you really just compared Saido Berahino with Ricardo Fuller?? 😂😂😂😂
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Post by elystokie on Feb 7, 2019 13:36:52 GMT
No strikers will score goals if you don't give them chances, what's bojans excuse for the past 3 years at 3 different clubs for making zero impact? Wether you like him or not Berahino has been one of the better performers this season when played. I'd like to see him tried alongside vokes. If it works you have to just let the guy paying his fines, fuller was no choir boy. "Ric is Ric" was a popular quote. Have you really just compared Saido Berahino with Ricardo Fuller?? 😂😂😂😂 You gotta laugh
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Feb 7, 2019 13:37:35 GMT
Bojan - 67 Appearances - 15 Goals Saido Berahino - 50 appearances - 3 goals Sam Clucas - 14 appearances - 2 goals.
Clucas has almost as many goals as Berahino, Clucas.
Fucking Clucas.
Not buying the Berahino argument sorry, he’s utter piss.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 7, 2019 13:40:37 GMT
Bojan - 67 Appearances - 15 Goals Saido Berahino - 50 appearances - 3 goals Sam Clucas - 14 appearances - 2 goals. Clucas has almost as many goals as Berahino, Clucas. Fucking Clucas. Not buying the Berahino argument sorry, he’s utter piss. Says a bojan bum boy, a player that has done fuck all for 3 year, anywhere 😉
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Feb 7, 2019 13:41:23 GMT
Bojan - 67 Appearances - 15 Goals Saido Berahino - 50 appearances - 3 goals Sam Clucas - 14 appearances - 2 goals. Clucas has almost as many goals as Berahino, Clucas. Fucking Clucas. Not buying the Berahino argument sorry, he’s utter piss. Says a bojan bum boy, a player that has done fuck all for 3 year, anywhere 😉 And Berahino has? He’s a striker that doesn’t strike.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 7, 2019 13:45:05 GMT
Says a bojan bum boy, a player that has done fuck all for 3 year, anywhere 😉 And Berahino has? He’s a striker that doesn’t strike. Probably would do if bojan did what he was supposed to be doing instead of touring around Europe adding nothing and getting 10 or 11 games a season at bang average teams/clubs
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Feb 7, 2019 13:51:59 GMT
And Berahino has? He’s a striker that doesn’t strike. Probably would do if bojan did what he was supposed to be doing instead of touring around Europe adding nothing and getting 10 or 11 games a season at bang average teams/clubs So we’re having a go at players who didn’t do anything for the club whilst not actually with the club now are we? On that basis, what’s Berahino’s excuse for now resembling a league 1 player that can’t score and is grossly unprofessional? Looking at it objectively with no fanboying: Bojan has more goals Bojan has more assists Bojan has a connection with the fanbase Berahino turns up when he wants for training and just pays the fine Berahino doesn’t have the technical ability to play behind a front man to accommodate for his actual finishing ability vanishing The only memorable thing Saido Berahino has done for this club is provide the assist to Jese to score the winner against Arsenal. Quite why there’s this clamour for a bang average unprofessional player that can’t even be arsed to show up on time to the club that pays him a handsome wage I’ve no idea.
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