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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 17:48:35 GMT
He put the first one into the penalty area. What did you want him to do then, sprint into the box and volley his own corner into the net? It was nearly as easy to defend as his second, may as well not bother having any corners if we're just going to float them in. How dare I criticise the saviour. I think it’s far comment. He’d probably be the first to admit it himself - he looked furious with himself on the first one. Which I think is why he went short on the second one and I don’t think it was his fault it was Etebo or McClean whoever it was being too slow to get to it. What I was to delighted to see was his crosses in open play. He looked up before he put them in and aimed for one our players! It was a miracle after we’ve had McClean’s run looking up at the floor and cross into empty box all season! It wasn’t perfect but there was a lot to be hopeful about. I think he’s just a bit more intelligent than the other thick sods.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 17:50:29 GMT
It was nearly as easy to defend as his second, may as well not bother having any corners if we're just going to float them in. How dare I criticise the saviour. I think it’s far comment. He’d probably be the first to admit it himself - he looked furious with himself on the first one. Which I think is why he went short on the second one and I don’t think it was his fault it was Etebo or McClean whoever it was being too slow to get to it. What I was to delighted to see was his crosses in open play. He looked up before he put them in and aimed for one our players! It was a miracle after we’ve had McClean’s run looking up at the floor and cross into empty box all season! It wasn’t perfect but there was a lot to be hopeful about. I think he’s just a bit more intelligent than the other thick sods. And yet a number of McCleans crosses have lead to goals
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 17:56:02 GMT
I think it’s far comment. He’d probably be the first to admit it himself - he looked furious with himself on the first one. Which I think is why he went short on the second one and I don’t think it was his fault it was Etebo or McClean whoever it was being too slow to get to it. What I was to delighted to see was his crosses in open play. He looked up before he put them in and aimed for one our players! It was a miracle after we’ve had McClean’s run looking up at the floor and cross into empty box all season! It wasn’t perfect but there was a lot to be hopeful about. I think he’s just a bit more intelligent than the other thick sods. And yet a number of McCleans crosses have lead to goals 6 I’ll give you that but it must be more than double that crossing to an empty box and wasting an attack. I imagine if Bojan had started near every game he would have a similar stat. Note also they both have scored one goal. Anyway time will tell won’t it. I was just pointing out that it was nice to see some thought being put into where the ball was going for a change!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 4, 2019 18:55:03 GMT
It was nearly as easy to defend as his second, may as well not bother having any corners if we're just going to float them in. How dare I criticise the saviour. I think it’s far comment. He’d probably be the first to admit it himself - he looked furious with himself on the first one. Which I think is why he went short on the second one and I don’t think it was his fault it was Etebo or McClean whoever it was being too slow to get to it. What I was to delighted to see was his crosses in open play. He looked up before he put them in and aimed for one our players! It was a miracle after we’ve had McClean’s run looking up at the floor and cross into empty box all season! It wasn’t perfect but there was a lot to be hopeful about. I think he’s just a bit more intelligent than the other thick sods. I agree I thought he was solid enough in open play and having seen Ince having a go at being the tip of the diamond Bojan is probably all we have there and its his place to lose really, it was decent start, hopefully there's more to come from him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 18:56:20 GMT
I think it’s far comment. He’d probably be the first to admit it himself - he looked furious with himself on the first one. Which I think is why he went short on the second one and I don’t think it was his fault it was Etebo or McClean whoever it was being too slow to get to it. What I was to delighted to see was his crosses in open play. He looked up before he put them in and aimed for one our players! It was a miracle after we’ve had McClean’s run looking up at the floor and cross into empty box all season! It wasn’t perfect but there was a lot to be hopeful about. I think he’s just a bit more intelligent than the other thick sods. I agree I thought he was solid enough in open play and having seen Ince having a go at being the tip of the diamond Bojan is probably all we have there and its his place to lose really, it was decent start, hopefully there's more to come from him. Hope so. At the very least we know he will give it his all which will make a nice change from some of the attitudes we have witnessed!
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Post by redwhite on Feb 4, 2019 19:06:06 GMT
When was the last time we scored directly from a corner? Surely not Diouf v West Ham in 2016?
Bojan hit one shit corner but it's not like it's anything new. Shaqiri smashed them into the first man time and time again last season. The last time I remember us looking remotely dangerous from corners was when we went through that weird phase of Adam trying to curl them into the net. Usually ended up with the keeper tipping the ball over for another corner.
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Post by albundy on Feb 4, 2019 19:15:32 GMT
Zouma last season @ Brighton Fletcher @ Watford At least since When was the last time we scored directly from a corner? Surely not Diouf v West Ham in 2016? Bojan hit one shit corner but it's not like it's anything new. Shaqiri smashed them into the first man time and time again last season. The last time I remember us looking remotely dangerous from corners was when we went through that weird phase of Adam trying to curl them into the net. Usually ended up with the keeper tipping the ball over for another corner.
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 4, 2019 19:57:42 GMT
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Post by kjpt140v on Feb 6, 2019 8:25:00 GMT
All great memories pre Rochdale nothing since. So you're calling our wins vs Citeh and Manure in December 2015 "nothing"? Sorry there's me thinking it was 11 a side. You have to go back to 2015, four years, to find a couple of matches he played well in. I think you've proved my point. By the way he was substituted against City.
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Post by rawli on Feb 6, 2019 10:39:47 GMT
You thought wasting the only corners we had was fine then? The far bigger worry is only getting 3 corners.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 6, 2019 10:47:49 GMT
Can see him being dropped for wba, doesn't offer anything competitively and it will be a competitive game (well it would need to be if ours had it in them).
352 all the way for wba. Vokes up top with saido for me.
McLean LWB.
Play this diamond and we'll get mullered
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2019 12:13:22 GMT
Can see him being dropped for wba, doesn't offer anything competitively and it will be a competitive game (well it would need to be if ours had it in them). 352 all the way for wba. Vokes up top with saido for me. McLean LWB. Play this diamond and we'll get mullered Being able to pass forwards and try to mount an attack is completely useless in a competitive game ;-)
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Post by nott1 on Feb 6, 2019 12:15:38 GMT
Can see him being dropped for wba, doesn't offer anything competitively and it will be a competitive game (well it would need to be if ours had it in them). 352 all the way for wba. Vokes up top with saido for me. McLean LWB. Play this diamond and we'll get mullered Being able to pass forwards and try to mount an attack is completely useless in a competitive game ;-) There really are some muppets about mate.
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Post by thebet365 on Feb 6, 2019 12:55:47 GMT
Can see him being dropped for wba, doesn't offer anything competitively and it will be a competitive game (well it would need to be if ours had it in them). 352 all the way for wba. Vokes up top with saido for me. McLean LWB. Play this diamond and we'll get mullered You're sounding as Lazy as the press where about us. Just because Pulis used to be their manager doesn't mean they still play like his teams. Holgate & Gibbs are proper footballing fullbacks, they played an 18 and 20 year old in midfield at the weekend alongside a 37 years young Barry.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 6, 2019 12:58:07 GMT
Can see him being dropped for wba, doesn't offer anything competitively and it will be a competitive game (well it would need to be if ours had it in them). 352 all the way for wba. Vokes up top with saido for me. McLean LWB. Play this diamond and we'll get mullered You're sounding as Lazy as the press where about us. Just because Pulis used to be their manager doesn't mean they still play like his teams. Holgate & Gibbs are proper footballing fullbacks, they played an 18 and 20 year old in midfield at the weekend alongside a 37 years young Barry. West Brom are a decent team mate with a potent attack. If you think 442 narrow diamond with a make shift CDM & bojan who does fuck all defensively is the way forward for this game fair play, I dont.
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Post by thebet365 on Feb 6, 2019 13:24:26 GMT
You're sounding as Lazy as the press where about us. Just because Pulis used to be their manager doesn't mean they still play like his teams. Holgate & Gibbs are proper footballing fullbacks, they played an 18 and 20 year old in midfield at the weekend alongside a 37 years young Barry. West Brom are a decent team mate with a potent attack. If you think 442 narrow diamond with a make shift CDM & bojan who does fuck all defensively is the way forward for this game fair play, I dont. You must be "The gift" because he had a tendancy to reply with things that simply haven't been said ? I only commented on you making out that they're a competetive team when they're much more of a footballing team these days.
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Post by pavel on Feb 6, 2019 13:26:27 GMT
You're sounding as Lazy as the press where about us. Just because Pulis used to be their manager doesn't mean they still play like his teams. Holgate & Gibbs are proper footballing fullbacks, they played an 18 and 20 year old in midfield at the weekend alongside a 37 years young Barry. West Brom are a decent team mate with a potent attack. If you think 442 narrow diamond with a make shift CDM & bojan who does fuck all defensively is the way forward for this game fair play, I dont. You really haven’t got a clue have you, the front of the diamond, is there to move the team forward and harry the opposing team mostly in the opponents half, something Bojan does do. But it seems you would rather go for McClean for offers nothing offensively and defensively is a liability due to his lack of awareness as has been shown many times already.
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Post by canadianmoose on Feb 6, 2019 13:51:12 GMT
Anybody who still thinks picking Berahino is the answer is beyond help. Seems he’s possibly been bombed out again with his poor time keeping and discipline.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Feb 6, 2019 13:58:37 GMT
Anybody who still thinks picking Berahino is the answer is beyond help. He’s been bombed out again with his poor time keeping and discipline.
Has he?
Where have you got this from...or is it just another "He hasn't been starting, so i'll just presume why myself and state it as fact"?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2019 14:01:39 GMT
Anybody who still thinks picking Berahino is the answer is beyond help. He’s been bombed out again with his poor time keeping and discipline.
Has he?
Where have you got this from...or is it just another "He hasn't been starting, so i'll just presume why myself and state it as fact"?
Kevin Phillips said Berahino is happy to turn up late and pay fines for being late which I think is where it has come from. It was suggested people had felt this was unacceptable. Whether it’s the reason he’s been bombed out who knows but the time keeping and disclipline remarks came from Kevin Philips on Talk Sport (I think)
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Post by thehoof on Feb 6, 2019 14:08:55 GMT
You're sounding as Lazy as the press where about us. Just because Pulis used to be their manager doesn't mean they still play like his teams. Holgate & Gibbs are proper footballing fullbacks, they played an 18 and 20 year old in midfield at the weekend alongside a 37 years young Barry. West Brom are a decent team mate with a potent attack. If you think 442 narrow diamond with a make shift CDM & bojan who does fuck all defensively is the way forward for this game fair play, I dont. Your number 10 is not usually a defender.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 6, 2019 14:16:21 GMT
West Brom are a decent team mate with a potent attack. If you think 442 narrow diamond with a make shift CDM & bojan who does fuck all defensively is the way forward for this game fair play, I dont. Your number 10 is not usually a defender. good teams defend from the front, we arn't good enough to have 10 +1 luxury player against wba, as sad as it sounds. Bojan's boys will never get it though. If we go toe to toe against wba they will outscore us 3 to 1
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2019 14:22:35 GMT
Your number 10 is not usually a defender. good teams defend from the front, we arn't good enough to have 10 +1 luxury player against wba, as sad as it sounds. Bojan's boys will never get it though He's not a luxury player. If you'd seen the game on Sat he was helping out in defense as much as anyone else did and if we hadn't have had him moving forward and making problems then it probably would have ended worse than it was. We certainly wouldn't even have looked like scoring. He was Joe's mistake for the second goal. Clucas lost every ball. Bruno being a muppet for the first. He's never going to be Robert Huth but its bollocks that he's a luxury player. He's not just standing around not helping out the team like Ince did when he came on and Afobe.
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Post by canadianmoose on Feb 6, 2019 14:28:53 GMT
Anybody who still thinks picking Berahino is the answer is beyond help. He’s been bombed out again with his poor time keeping and discipline. Has he? Where have you got this from...or is it just another "He hasn't been starting, so i'll just presume why myself and state it as fact"?
Not stating anything as 'fact' other than surmising that his lack of appearances may be related to the rather damming comments from Kevin Phillips and then Nathan Jones specifically stating in a radio interview that 'people turning up late and just accepting fines, no we wont be having that'. Doesn't take much to join the dots does it? I have edited the original post. Perhaps that will calm you down a bit.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Feb 6, 2019 14:41:22 GMT
Berahino is certainly not the way forward, but neither is Charlie Adam.
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Post by vahl on Feb 6, 2019 15:08:25 GMT
Heat map from Preston, anyone?
I'm dubious about this diamond including Bojan.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2019 15:15:46 GMT
Heat map from Preston, anyone? I'm dubious about this diamond including Bojan. Bit harsh to say he didn’t do anything v Preston when he didn’t even play mate...
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Post by Davef on Feb 6, 2019 15:16:30 GMT
Heat map from Preston, anyone?
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 6, 2019 15:18:43 GMT
I really don't have the same belief in Bojan as a lot of posters here, but that said nothing would make me happier than see him succeed at Stoke.
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Post by Davef on Feb 6, 2019 15:22:26 GMT
I really don't have the same belief in Bojan as a lot of posters here, but that said nothing would make me happier than see him succeed at Stoke. What belief do you have in any of our squad at the moment?
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