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Post by GeneralFaye on Dec 28, 2018 19:38:18 GMT
I'll never trust a man who likes Coldplay, never.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 28, 2018 19:38:28 GMT
Did anyone listen in? Anything ground breaking or was it as beige as his football? Coldplay? Meh. 'Yellow' certainly suns up his footballing philosophy |
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Post by RAF on Dec 28, 2018 19:41:26 GMT
Did anyone listen in? Anything ground breaking or was it as beige as his football? Coldplay? Meh. 'Yellow' certainly suns up his footballing philosophy I thought 'Warning Sign' was more apt ;) H |
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Post by tony1234 on Dec 28, 2018 19:47:56 GMT
Thing is, I don’t agree what some people say that Bojan is the best player in this league and that he should be starting every week. I don’t think he’s as good as some make out on here. BUT. He’s becoming a symbol of Rowetts lack of creativity and inability to be positive. The way we are playing isn’t working the way it should and won’t get us anywhere, and he’s got someone there who can make a difference to a boring team and just simply offer something else. But for some unknown reason, it’s the last thing on his mind. He’d of been perfect bring on at Birmingham. He needs to be in th squad every week. Interesting question - MVPs for this division (based on this season, form etc)? How about:-?? Maupay Gayle Roofe Grabban Hernandez (Leeds) Jansonn (Leeds) Jutkiewitz (Birm) Cooper (Leeds) Pukki Abraham Randolph (Midd) Wilson (Der) Barnes (WBA) Rodriguez (WBA) Adams (Birm) Philips (WBA) Ayala Flint Sharp (ShfU) Dack McBurnie Clayton (Mid) Klose (Nor) ButlandInce
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 28, 2018 20:04:11 GMT
Did anyone listen in? Anything ground breaking or was it as beige as his football? Coldplay? Meh. He spoke well to be honest mate(as usual) about his life in football and his family.Seems like Ben Robinson is the man he looks up to.Also says Peter Coates rings him every Sunday to talk about the game and John Coates has a coffee with him on a Monday to talk about things.The reason he came was to do with the Coates family and the stability they’ve shown to managers and they remind him of Ben Robinson at Burton |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2018 20:07:03 GMT
I'm struggling to see the point you are making here to be honest. But if there is a shift amongst supporters (me being one of those who used to go to nearly every game in my younger years and sing when winning or losing) then it is because these days we are in a league where are budget dwarfs all other clubs and we should be doing a lot better. So yes, there is a lot of frustration on here. In terms of sacking managers, I suppose its just part of the game. Really, money, budget, that's what determines how well a manager does. Rowett has failed miserably. Rowett out I was talking about people like you in response to a decent post, not to you you prat. Although I am a bit hesitant about our current plight, I am right behind the manager and desperate for him to succeed. Sorry but I have to declare I am a genuine Stoke fan, so what else can I say. No need for that pal seriously. People like me? You have no idea. I want the manager to succeed too. Success was going to be promotion this season though wasn't it? and he definitely isn't going to achieve that. We still have a chance if we can get a better manager in, that would be our only chance. Just my opinion. If you get angry about a fan not being happy with a manager, maybe try waking up to reality. When managers don't win games fans tend not to be happy with them |
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Post by stokeykez on Dec 28, 2018 20:10:26 GMT
This club is imploding. Fans wanted pulis out, wanted Hughes out, wanted Lambert out and now want Rowett out. What happened to getting behind your team regardless. There appears to be more divisions in our fan base that there are on Brexit! I suspect a lot is to do with a lot jumping on the premier league bandwagon and not having any real experience of stoke city before then. Disagree. We should be doing a lot better. I would suggest the majority on here were fans long before we made it in the Premier league as well. We have a very good squad, with numerous international players. We've kept a lot of the team together and this is where I think the frustration is coming from. We shouldn't be winning every game as if it's some god given right but we should at the very least be competing. There are many worrying signs, we still don't seem to have a settled first 11, we have no plan B, we aren't scoring enough goals and we aren't keeping clean sheets. The longer we stay in this league the harder it is to get out as the parachute payments dwindle. Rowetts arrogance isn't going to get the fans on side and they're more than entitled to voice their opinion if they're paying to go the game. Exactly it seems that the default answer for stoke fans wanting more for their team is that we are all a bunch of plastic post 2008 set of fans. Get a grip some of us have been bought up watching stoke through many decades and styles of football. There is very little respect for fans having a say about what they are unhappy about anymore. The fact that fans are expected to be happy to sit and stay mute smacks more of the commercialised happy clapping foot all of today. Keep for one want to moan and shout whilst I'm at the match if the players in front of me do not show the effort and fight in that shirt. This goes for the manager as well, his style of football is absolutely turgid. The club is rotting away and the football is slow, lumbering and has not progressed since 2016. We have been on a helter skelter and to be fair I want it to stop. I want the fight back in stoke city and yes I want to be entertained, to feel like me heart is going to jump out of my chest when we get the ball and are thrashing teams. This just doesn't happen anymore, we have no fight or guile, passion comes from leaders and we have none, on or off the field. |
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Post by colnepotter on Dec 28, 2018 21:44:25 GMT
I was talking about people like you in response to a decent post, not to you you prat. Although I am a bit hesitant about our current plight, I am right behind the manager and desperate for him to succeed. Sorry but I have to declare I am a genuine Stoke fan, so what else can I say. No need for that pal seriously. People like me? You have no idea. I want the manager to succeed too. Success was going to be promotion this season though wasn't it? and he definitely isn't going to achieve that. We still have a chance if we can get a better manager in, that would be our only chance. Just my opinion. If you get angry about a fan not being happy with a manager, maybe try waking up to reality. When managers don't win games fans tend not to be happy with them You are right. That is indeed the way it is in 2018. But I have been around long enough to remember a time when fans were a bit more sensible and calling for the managers head was the preserve of clubs that really had hit on hard times, and quite often the manager actually deserved it. Seriously what are you (and your type) doing to help Stoke right now? Nothing is the answer. You are the enemy within; spineless in fact. The only defence you have is you are not alone. There are a whole bunch of cretins on your side. Thankfully still in a minority, but still significantly large enough in number to spoil it for everyone else and potentially damage the club you claim to support. |
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Post by thevoid on Dec 28, 2018 21:50:55 GMT
Surprised he didn't opt for Negative Creep by Nirvana.
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Post by colnepotter on Dec 28, 2018 21:54:05 GMT
I was talking about people like you in response to a decent post, not to you you prat. Although I am a bit hesitant about our current plight, I am right behind the manager and desperate for him to succeed. Sorry but I have to declare I am a genuine Stoke fan, so what else can I say. No need for that pal seriously. People like me? You have no idea. I want the manager to succeed too. Success was going to be promotion this season though wasn't it? and he definitely isn't going to achieve that. We still have a chance if we can get a better manager in, that would be our only chance. Just my opinion. If you get angry about a fan not being happy with a manager, maybe try waking up to reality. When managers don't win games fans tend not to be happy with them You are right. That is indeed the way it is in 2018. But I have been around long enough to remember a time when fans were a bit more sensible and calling for the managers head was the preserve of clubs that really had hit on hard times, and quite often the manager actually deserved it. Seriously what are you (and your type) doing to help Stoke right now? Nothing is the answer. You are the enemy within; spineless in fact. The only defence you have is you are not alone. There are a whole bunch of cretins on your side. Thankfully still in a minority, but still significantly large enough in number to spoil it for everyone else and potentially damage the club you claim to support. |
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Post by RAF on Dec 28, 2018 21:56:28 GMT
No need for that pal seriously. People like me? You have no idea. I want the manager to succeed too. Success was going to be promotion this season though wasn't it? and he definitely isn't going to achieve that. We still have a chance if we can get a better manager in, that would be our only chance. Just my opinion. If you get angry about a fan not being happy with a manager, maybe try waking up to reality. When managers don't win games fans tend not to be happy with them You are right. That is indeed the way it is in 2018. But I have been around long enough to remember a time when fans were a bit more sensible and calling for the managers head was the preserve of clubs that really had hit on hard times, and quite often the manager actually deserved it. Seriously what are you (and your type) doing to help Stoke right now? Nothing is the answer. You are the enemy within; spineless in fact. The only defence you have is you are not alone. There are a whole bunch of cretins on your side. Thankfully still in a minority, but still significantly large enough in number to spoil it for everyone else and potentially damage the club you claim to support. It's not just a 2018 thing though. I have been around long enough to remember the great Tony Waddington having his head called for by a section of our fans. If our greatest manager of all time was not immune from this no one else will be rightly or wrongly. H |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Dec 28, 2018 21:57:12 GMT
No need for that pal seriously. People like me? You have no idea. I want the manager to succeed too. Success was going to be promotion this season though wasn't it? and he definitely isn't going to achieve that. We still have a chance if we can get a better manager in, that would be our only chance. Just my opinion. If you get angry about a fan not being happy with a manager, maybe try waking up to reality. When managers don't win games fans tend not to be happy with them You are right. That is indeed the way it is in 2018. But I have been around long enough to remember a time when fans were a bit more sensible and calling for the managers head was the preserve of clubs that really had hit on hard times, and quite often the manager actually deserved it. Seriously what are you (and your type) doing to help Stoke right now? Nothing is the answer. You are the enemy within; spineless in fact. The only defence you have is you are not alone. There are a whole bunch of cretins on your side. Thankfully still in a minority, but still significantly large enough in number to spoil it for everyone else and potentially damage the club you claim to support. Sometimes the criticism can engender a siege mentality within the players and coaching staff. If we go on a winning run now you can in no way disprove that it's not because of this critical feedback from the minority in the oatcake. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 28, 2018 22:01:24 GMT
You are right. That is indeed the way it is in 2018. But I have been around long enough to remember a time when fans were a bit more sensible and calling for the managers head was the preserve of clubs that really had hit on hard times, and quite often the manager actually deserved it. Seriously what are you (and your type) doing to help Stoke right now? Nothing is the answer. You are the enemy within; spineless in fact. The only defence you have is you are not alone. There are a whole bunch of cretins on your side. Thankfully still in a minority, but still significantly large enough in number to spoil it for everyone else and potentially damage the club you claim to support. Sometimes the criticism can engender a siege mentality within the players and coaching staff. If we go on a winning run now you can in no way disprove that it's not because of this critical feedback from the minority in the oatcake. For gods sake don’t mention siege if Gary is listening , he’ll definitely see a sort of Rourkes drift , Stalingrad , dogged resistance approach as the way forward |
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Post by colnepotter on Dec 28, 2018 22:01:46 GMT
I know lots of die hard Stoke home and away fans who do post on here so it could well be representative surely? I'll concede it might not be, but it could be? H Just on the basis of numbers it's about as reliable a temperature check of supporters views as you're going to get and it's been obvious over the years the club take some notice of it. Agreed. The club do indeed take notice. Ironically one of the many criticisms levelled at them is they don’t care and take no notice. One day they might just say fuck you and sell up. We really would have something to worry about if that ever happens. |
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Post by colnepotter on Dec 28, 2018 22:05:07 GMT
You are right. That is indeed the way it is in 2018. But I have been around long enough to remember a time when fans were a bit more sensible and calling for the managers head was the preserve of clubs that really had hit on hard times, and quite often the manager actually deserved it. Seriously what are you (and your type) doing to help Stoke right now? Nothing is the answer. You are the enemy within; spineless in fact. The only defence you have is you are not alone. There are a whole bunch of cretins on your side. Thankfully still in a minority, but still significantly large enough in number to spoil it for everyone else and potentially damage the club you claim to support. Sometimes the criticism can engender a siege mentality within the players and coaching staff. If we go on a winning run now you can in no way disprove that it's not because of this critical feedback from the minority in the oatcake. Although sometimes that can happen I accept, more often than not it doesn’t I’m afraid. That’s the reality. |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Dec 28, 2018 22:14:08 GMT
Sometimes the criticism can engender a siege mentality within the players and coaching staff. If we go on a winning run now you can in no way disprove that it's not because of this critical feedback from the minority in the oatcake. Although sometimes that can happen I accept, more often than not it doesn’t I’m afraid. That’s the reality. Maybe in 2018. 2019 is a totally different story though |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 28, 2018 22:16:47 GMT
Just on the basis of numbers it's about as reliable a temperature check of supporters views as you're going to get and it's been obvious over the years the club take some notice of it. Agreed. The club do indeed take notice. Ironically one of the many criticisms levelled at them is they don’t care and take no notice. One day they might just say fuck you and sell up. We really would have something to worry about if that ever happens. If the owners can't take stick then they're in the wrong game. They have had nothing whatsoever at games, which is getting away with murder really. From sticking with the horrendous and discredited shit and shitter transfer team to'whats all the fuss about' to the Lambert fiasco, the fans have actually been very benign towards them. |
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 28, 2018 22:43:41 GMT
No need for that pal seriously. People like me? You have no idea. I want the manager to succeed too. Success was going to be promotion this season though wasn't it? and he definitely isn't going to achieve that. We still have a chance if we can get a better manager in, that would be our only chance. Just my opinion. If you get angry about a fan not being happy with a manager, maybe try waking up to reality. When managers don't win games fans tend not to be happy with them You are right. That is indeed the way it is in 2018. But I have been around long enough to remember a time when fans were a bit more sensible and calling for the managers head was the preserve of clubs that really had hit on hard times, and quite often the manager actually deserved it. Seriously what are you (and your type) doing to help Stoke right now? Nothing is the answer. You are the enemy within; spineless in fact. The only defence you have is you are not alone. There are a whole bunch of cretins on your side. Thankfully still in a minority, but still significantly large enough in number to spoil it for everyone else and potentially damage the club you claim to support. The only cretins mate are people like you who have happy clapped the club to about 145 years of mediocrity and abject failure. Your post is a disgrace. |
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Post by colnepotter on Dec 28, 2018 23:15:42 GMT
Agreed. The club do indeed take notice. Ironically one of the many criticisms levelled at them is they don’t care and take no notice. One day they might just say fuck you and sell up. We really would have something to worry about if that ever happens. If the owners can't take stick then they're in the wrong game. They have had nothing whatsoever at games, which is getting away with murder really. From sticking with the horrendous and discredited shit and shitter transfer team to'whats all the fuss about' to the Lambert fiasco, the fans have actually been very benign towards them. But you just said a short while ago that this message board was a reasonable barometer of Stoke opinion ( or words to that effect). I don’t see this message board as particularly benign. If you want to talk nonsense at least be consistent young man. |
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Post by colnepotter on Dec 28, 2018 23:25:17 GMT
You are right. That is indeed the way it is in 2018. But I have been around long enough to remember a time when fans were a bit more sensible and calling for the managers head was the preserve of clubs that really had hit on hard times, and quite often the manager actually deserved it. Seriously what are you (and your type) doing to help Stoke right now? Nothing is the answer. You are the enemy within; spineless in fact. The only defence you have is you are not alone. There are a whole bunch of cretins on your side. Thankfully still in a minority, but still significantly large enough in number to spoil it for everyone else and potentially damage the club you claim to support. It's not just a 2018 thing though. I have been around long enough to remember the great Tony Waddington having his head called for by a section of our fans. If our greatest manager of all time was not immune from this no one else will be rightly or wrongly. H I know what you mean but that was actually rare compared to most clubs (at that time). Don’t forget even Waddo had several years treading water before we eventually came good. He would never have survived if this message board had been around at the time, I’m sure of that. |
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 28, 2018 23:26:26 GMT
The only cretins mate are people like you who have happy clapped the club to about 145 years of mediocrity and abject failure. Your post is a disgrace. Yeah mate. Please come down Stoke town next home game to meet loads of Stokies just like me. We’re dying to meet you if you know what I mean..... You go on about 'sensible' fans and then come out with that. Just for you... |
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Post by RAF on Dec 28, 2018 23:35:09 GMT
It's not just a 2018 thing though. I have been around long enough to remember the great Tony Waddington having his head called for by a section of our fans. If our greatest manager of all time was not immune from this no one else will be rightly or wrongly. H I know what you mean but that was actually rare compared to most clubs (at that time). Don’t forget even Waddo had several years treading water before we eventually came good. He would never have survived if this message board had been around at the time, I’m sure of that. To be fair quite a bit of steam is blown off on here and I think it probably keeps a lot of it away from the stadium. It's a good venting tool,and whilst some of it is counterproductive due to it's popularity in the main I think it's healthy to be able to say things are a bit shit at times. I'm as guilty as anyone for going OTT on here and that can be negative or positive. All I want is to see us do well and be able to comment when I think things are good or shit. For the record I don't want another manager in but he's very hard to like at the moment. H |
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Post by colnepotter on Dec 28, 2018 23:35:30 GMT
Yeah mate. Please come down Stoke town next home game to meet loads of Stokies just like me. We’re dying to meet you if you know what I mean..... You go on about 'sensible' fans and then come out with that. Just for you...Oh dear. Another incorrect assumption. |
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Post by Godo on Dec 28, 2018 23:39:20 GMT
Rowett music bingo Coldplay, Mumford and Sons, Ed Sheeran, Lighthouse Family, M People, Simply Red. Edit. Certainly no Massive Attack 😎 Coldplay favourite band of all time Fuck me. Forget my earlier "give him until the end of the season" post ....explains the fucking tedious football and offers no hope for things to get any more exciting in the future. He looks like the sort of boring twat dad you get turning up for sports day at Endon school and he has the same shit taste in music! |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 28, 2018 23:40:31 GMT
If the owners can't take stick then they're in the wrong game. They have had nothing whatsoever at games, which is getting away with murder really. From sticking with the horrendous and discredited shit and shitter transfer team to'whats all the fuss about' to the Lambert fiasco, the fans have actually been very benign towards them. But you just said a short while ago that this message board was a reasonable barometer of Stoke opinion ( or words to that effect). I don’t see this message board as particularly benign. If you want to talk nonsense at least be consistent young man. I'm not sure you understand message boards old chap! |
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Post by colnepotter on Dec 28, 2018 23:48:38 GMT
But you just said a short while ago that this message board was a reasonable barometer of Stoke opinion ( or words to that effect). I don’t see this message board as particularly benign. If you want to talk nonsense at least be consistent young man. I'm not sure you understand message boards old chap! I don’t think I do really no......so when you start putting the boot into all things Stoke you don’t really mean it? The penny has just dropped you are a Stoke fan after all are you not? Just joking then. Thank god for that. Sincere apologies I thought you were some random cunt talking out of your arse. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 28, 2018 23:56:42 GMT
I'm not sure you understand message boards old chap! I don’t think I do really no......so when you start putting the boot into all things Stoke you don’t really mean it? The penny has just dropped you are a Stoke fan after all are you not? Just joking then. Thank god for that. Sincere apologies I thought you were some random cunt talking out of your arse. You’re a very rude chap. I’m mortally wounded by your base vernacular. Please cease and desist. |
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Dec 29, 2018 0:03:38 GMT
The arrogant one has gone too far. The swing from those on the fence in the Rowett in or Rowett out debate has clearly swung towards him deservedly being given the boot judging by the posts on here since yesterday. A sold out away end at Birmingham witnessed possibly the biggest pile of shite seen in many years when following OUR club, yes OUR club, not this fools club. He is but very temporary. It was so bad that I felt too numb to bother shouting shit at Rowett at the end of the game. This idiot needs to know very loudly what the supporters think of him and his shit, negative, and clueless football. I know that the saints on here will chip in with the give him a bit more time, and just get behind the team ramblings, but we are seriously going backwards with this bell end in charge. I will get behind the team as I tried to at Brum, but the fucking life is being sucked out of any optimism and enthusiasm that I have had since the morning of the debacle at Leeds. I will not get behind this odious twat. Rowett Out!! Maybe we get behind the team and the manager as im sure neither is deliberately doing a poor job just to spite? Get behind the team or stay away. Any other approach is preposterous SGS |
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Dec 29, 2018 0:05:02 GMT
Thing is, I don’t agree what some people say that Bojan is the best player in this league and that he should be starting every week. I don’t think he’s as good as some make out on here. BUT. He’s becoming a symbol of Rowetts lack of creativity and inability to be positive. The way we are playing isn’t working the way it should and won’t get us anywhere, and he’s got someone there who can make a difference to a boring team and just simply offer something else. But for some unknown reason, it’s the last thing on his mind. He’d of been perfect bring on at Birmingham. He needs to be in th squad every week. Interesting question - MVPs for this division (based on this season, form etc)? How about:-?? Maupay Gayle Roofe Grabban Hernandez (Leeds) Jansonn (Leeds) Jutkiewitz (Birm) Cooper (Leeds) Pukki Abraham Randolph (Midd) Wilson (Der) Barnes (WBA) Rodriguez (WBA) Adams (Birm) Philips (WBA) Ayala Flint Sharp (ShfU) Dack McBurnie Clayton (Mid) Klose (Nor) ButlandInce
Not sure where Bojan would be if given a full chance. Its fitness - but i'd probably swap him for 50-100 players from this division. Name them SGS |
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Post by tony1234 on Dec 29, 2018 1:51:11 GMT
Interesting question - MVPs for this division (based on this season, form etc)? How about:-?? Maupay Gayle Roofe Grabban Hernandez (Leeds) Jansonn (Leeds) Jutkiewitz (Birm) Cooper (Leeds) Pukki Abraham Randolph (Midd) Wilson (Der) Barnes (WBA) Rodriguez (WBA) Adams (Birm) Philips (WBA) Ayala Flint Sharp (ShfU) Dack McBurnie Clayton (Mid) Klose (Nor) ButlandInce
Not sure where Bojan would be if given a full chance. Its fitness - but i'd probably swap him for 50-100 players from this division. Name them SGS Well. that's a little task you've set there... but I'll take a few of clubs and suggest 5+ players from each I'd swap for. Clearly would get more from higher clubs. So am guessing, that across the league, could probably muster 100 or so that would serve more purpose in our squad. The majority would be less inately talented than Bojan, but more useful, reliable and productive in the matchday 18. From the higher up lot Leeds (9): Cooper, Jansson, Hernandez, Saiz, Roofe, Phillips, Klitch, Ailoksi, Douglas Derby (7): Wilson, Mount, Lawrence, Marriot, Huddlestone, Waghorn, Bogle From the middle lot: Villa (8): Chester, Grealish, Kodja, Abraham, McGinn, Hourihane, Bolasie, Tuanzebe QPR (4): Leinster, Eze, Luongo, Wells From the lower lot: Brentford (6): Watkins, Maupay, Barbet, Mepham, Bentley, Sawyers, Reading (3): Bodvarsson, Barrow, Moore |
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