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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 4, 2018 16:49:38 GMT
I think I'm right in saying only West Ham (outside the top 6) have scored more than 2 past us in any game this season?
Ev 0-1 WBA 1-1 Newc 1-2 Soton 2-1 Bou 1-2 Watf 1-0 Leics 2-2 Bri 2-2 Pal 1-2 Swan 2-1 Burn 0-1 WHU 0-3 WBA 3-1 Hudd 1-1 Newc 0-1
It was only the big teams that were routinely smashing us to bits.
And it was the same last season. We were conceding about a goal a game against the bottom 14.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 4, 2018 16:53:24 GMT
Spoken like a true zealot. We need to win games of football. We do that by scoring goals. We don't look like scoring. As usual the sandbanks disciples trot out this type of claptrap as though it's some kind of miracle that a team has stopped conceding goals. Cue some fuckwit asking why the previous Manager couldn't do it... Why couldn't the previous manager do it? You couldn't resist, could you? 😜 Good lad! 😁
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 16:55:04 GMT
Why couldn't the previous manager do it? You couldn't resist, could you? 😜 Good lad! 😁 Well he mentioned the fwit word and well, the cap fits so I thought I'd indulge. Happy Sunday.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 4, 2018 17:38:45 GMT
So the record v non-top 6 teams:
Hughes:
This season:
16 pts from 15 GD -4
Last season:
P 26 W 11 D 8 L 7 F 34 A 20 Pts: 41
Lambo has
7 pts from 6 GD +1
What jumps out is the record against the bottom 14 last season was really good.
And Hughes and Lambo are doing about the same this season against the also-rans
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 4, 2018 17:47:51 GMT
So the record v non-top 6 teams: Hughes: This season: 16 pts from 15 GD -4 Last season: P 26 W 11 D 8 L 7 F 34 A 20 Pts: 41 Lambo has 7 pts from 6 GD +1 What jumps out is the record against the bottom 14 last season was really good. And Hughes and Lambo are doing about the same this season against the also-rans Fair enough, but the way we were going, we looked like losing to everyone. Hughes had completely lost the plot
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Post by gingerninja on Mar 4, 2018 19:43:31 GMT
I see no reason for him to stay if we don't stay up. Had he won some of the winnable games against teams around us we would be well on the way to safety by now. He didn't win these and relegation now has an inevitable feel about it. We haven't gone overboard on background staff for him so the upheaval wouldn't be too great.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 19:55:01 GMT
If fat boy Charlie hadn’t missed a last minute penalty and flapper didn’t decide to throw one in his own net a week after.
Lamberts record at Stoke would have been impressive.
Also it’s not his fault that every forward we have on the books are a bag of shit and have been for 2 seasons.
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Post by alster on Mar 4, 2018 20:08:02 GMT
I think you've made that point...so what's the practical solution now???....that's my hysterical response and I have an answer.......get behind the manager......at least make an attempt to see some of the good things he is trying to accomplish......i.e not leaking goals, at least try to recognise the challenges he faces (lack of talent in the squad, very poor recruitment and fitness levels)...... that's the only answer imho Moaning about him.....what's that going to achieve?...apart from short-term therapy, which is not healthy in the long run! I was leading the chants at old Trafford. The crowd, home and away have been right behind him and the team. The crowd have delivered. Lambert hasn't. The practical solution is to hope for the best then get rid of him at the end of the season regardless of the outcome...exactly as the opening post and thread title suggest. Sorting out the defence by going 10 at the back v our direct competition answers nor solves anything. Defensively we didn't have too much of a problem when playing against our so called competition. Hes solved a problem that in reality didn't need fixing and he's done it by being even more negative than Tony pulis and producing worse results than the previous manager. Called it before it ever happened. We needed to focus our attention on winning games and putting the ones we don't win behind us quickly regardless of the scoreline we were never going to draw our way to safety. I haven't totally given up all hope but IMO we are going about things in the complete opposite manner than we needed to to maximise our chances of staying up. We're back to exactly where we were this time last season playing 3 central midfielders without a creative bone in their bodies. Lets not even mention what's in front of them.
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Post by buster on Mar 4, 2018 20:35:42 GMT
like most was totally uninspired by lamberts appointment, is he doing a worse job than hughes was doing? no way,i believe he is doing his level best with a complete train wreck left by hughes and co,for what its worth I still think we will stay up
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 4, 2018 20:59:38 GMT
like most was totally uninspired by lamberts appointment, is he doing a worse job than hughes was doing? no way,i believe he is doing his level best with a complete train wreck left by hughes and co,for what its worth I still think we will stay up Technically he has done a worse job yes.
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Post by iglugluk on Mar 4, 2018 21:09:29 GMT
If fat boy Charlie hadn’t missed a last minute penalty and flapper didn’t decide to throw one in his own net a week after. Lamberts record at Stoke would have been impressive. Also it’s not his fault that every forward we have on the books are a bag of shit and have been for 2 seasons. He claimed to know our squad inside and out etc., when he was appointed. He therefore must've known the striker situation. He was here for much of the transfer window and yet we didn't bring in a striker. He needed to make the board aware that we needed a striker and that he was only prepared to accept appointment if we were making a real and serious attempt to bring one in. The fact that hasn't happened seems to either mean he was complicit in the situation when the window closed ..... or ..... he was just happy to be back managing a club no matter how much the will was lacking in the owners to keep us up. ..... neither scenarios are particularly positive.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 22:53:08 GMT
If fat boy Charlie hadn’t missed a last minute penalty and flapper didn’t decide to throw one in his own net a week after. Lamberts record at Stoke would have been impressive. Holy shit not again sorry to break this to you but it happened so his record is shit. If only bollocks 👌
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Post by GoBoks on Mar 5, 2018 11:08:38 GMT
Did anyone see what the Sunday Times reporter said today? "Stoke manager Paul Lambert was clearly delighted with a hard-earned point and a battling performance from his side," How many of you agree that it was a "battling" performance? Not a lot? If you've read any newspaper in the past 20 years, you'll know that they should be called "opinion Papers". Some Journo decides that Lambert thought it was a "battling performance" and it becomes fact? We got a point. He was happy we did not lose. Those are facts.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 13, 2018 0:18:25 GMT
Changed my mind.
He should go now.
Just get Potter in already and let's start a fresh. Start a proper culture at this club.
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Post by miltonstokienew on Mar 13, 2018 0:19:43 GMT
Changed my mind. He should go now. Just get Potter in already and let's start a fresh. Start a proper culture at this club. Look at me
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Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 13, 2018 1:04:19 GMT
Changed my mind. He should go now. Just get Potter in already and let's start a fresh. Start a proper culture at this club. Potter?? Lambert's not the answer but neither is he.
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Post by thegift on Mar 13, 2018 1:06:56 GMT
what is peoples obsessions with graham fucking potter.
Is it his last name?
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Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 13, 2018 1:14:10 GMT
what is peoples obsessions with graham fucking potter. Is it his last name? Yeah that and he played for us 20 odd years ago. Same people who wanted Gary Fucking mid table championship Rowett as manager.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Mar 13, 2018 1:28:42 GMT
what is peoples obsessions with graham fucking potter. Is it his last name? Yeah that and he played for us 20 odd years ago. Same people who wanted Gary Fucking mid table championship Rowett as manager. I keep saying it but if Fulham don't go up, we should go all out to get Jokanović in as our next manager!!!
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Mar 13, 2018 9:15:19 GMT
No way are the cheap farts in charge of the club going to pay him off and pay to bring in someone else. We are stuck with him for the 2 years.
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Post by alster on Mar 13, 2018 9:18:24 GMT
Yeah that and he played for us 20 odd years ago. Same people who wanted Gary Fucking mid table championship Rowett as manager. I keep saying it but if Fulham don't go up, we should go all out to get Jokanović in as our next manager!!! Yup maybe he would like to keep working with Mitrovic too.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 13, 2018 9:19:25 GMT
Lamberts going nowhere, in fact wait for the "with his experience he's the perfect manager to bring us straight back up" comments to start emerging.
Should have never gotten the job in the first place
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Mar 13, 2018 9:23:40 GMT
Maybe but he’s shored up the ship. To have a go at him before the season ends is disrespectful massively He’s come in a very difficult situation and he’s doing above par Have your 10p worth in May but let him do his job We are well in the mix and that was a good point. Spot on.
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Post by flea79 on Mar 13, 2018 9:30:04 GMT
what is peoples obsessions with graham fucking potter. Is it his last name? I think he could be a new direction, not an old war horse journeyman manager like our past 3 (sorry I know you love TP) fresh ideas and a fresh approach and a young guy, could really pull the fans together and hopefully build something here now that was the dream in reality it will be the usual disaster and we will be in league 1 before we can blink, but even so dreams are good
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 13, 2018 9:30:06 GMT
My default position is he shouldn't be the manager next season, because he shouldn't have been the manager this season and it was a bizarre appointment.
But we're still in the mix and if he can set us up successfully in the five winnable games we've got left (Everton, Burnley, West Ham, Palace, Swansea), he can make a case for himself.
I find him likeable, but unimpressive, in interviews.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 13, 2018 9:39:28 GMT
We should’ve gone for Jokanovic when we had the chance.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Mar 13, 2018 9:42:54 GMT
He has actually made us even more boring to watch which is some achievement. Draws or narrow loses are no good now. He needs to throw the shackles off, but I doubt he will
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Post by jeycov on Mar 13, 2018 9:50:52 GMT
First of all he was prepared to take on the considerable challenge of our club in potential free fall
We only know of 2 "candidates " who turned us down - lots of rumours linking us with others
Just like players that we would like to see here - it's a two way process and potential incomings need to want to be here.
It was a choice between keeping Hughes or getting someone with experience to take on the job.
Most unlikely to sign a very short term contract until the end of the season
Hindsight Hughes should have gone much earlier, we need to move on
Most players seem to be supporting Lambert and we need to do the same
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 10:02:16 GMT
First of all he was prepared to take on the considerable challenge of our club in potential free fall We only know of 2 "candidates " who turned us down - lots of rumours linking us with others Just like players that we would like to see here - it's a two way process and potential incomings need to want to be here. It was a choice between keeping Hughes or getting someone with experience to take on the job. Most unlikely to sign a very short term contract until the end of the season Hindsight Hughes should have gone much earlier, we need to move on Most players seem to be supporting Lambert and we need to do the same I agree there is absolutely no point in slagging him off. Hes our manager. We may as well get behind him and the team until the end of the season. Whether we stay up, which is in the balance or go down which is not inevitable despite what some on here say, serious questions need to be asked about the structure and running of the club. Whatever happens and when blame is apportioned Paul Lambert will be well down my list of culpability.
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Post by thegift on Mar 13, 2018 10:02:18 GMT
First of all he was prepared to take on the considerable challenge of our club in potential free fall We only know of 2 "candidates " who turned us down - lots of rumours linking us with others Just like players that we would like to see here - it's a two way process and potential incomings need to want to be here. It was a choice between keeping Hughes or getting someone with experience to take on the job. Most unlikely to sign a very short term contract until the end of the season Hindsight Hughes should have gone much earlier, we need to move on Most players seem to be supporting Lambert and we need to do the same Its hard to support him when his squad selection as nearly as bad as Hughes'.
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