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Imbula
Aug 25, 2018 11:30:58 GMT
Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 25, 2018 11:30:58 GMT
Can he be any worse than what we have seen in midfield so far this season? I doubt he'd be any better.
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Imbula
Aug 25, 2018 11:33:50 GMT
Post by cooper67 on Aug 25, 2018 11:33:50 GMT
No!
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Imbula
Aug 25, 2018 11:46:55 GMT
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Post by TheProletarian on Aug 25, 2018 11:46:55 GMT
Has there been a gas leak on this messageboard over the the last 24 hours or something? ??
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Imbula
Aug 25, 2018 12:26:23 GMT
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Post by riproaringagain on Aug 25, 2018 12:26:23 GMT
He’s got the appetite of a door mouse for football quite happy Picking up his wages
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Imbula
Aug 25, 2018 12:32:50 GMT
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Post by StokeTudoGuy on Aug 25, 2018 12:32:50 GMT
With Ince having a potential niggle and McClean being far from ideal, I would be tempted to give him half a match on the left and see how he goes, especially if we can play Clucas as the left sided CM given how much defensive work Clucas can chip in with on that side.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 25, 2018 12:41:04 GMT
Has there been a gas leak on this messageboard over the the last 24 hours or something? ?? Forget about Imbula. He’s a wastrel. He’s finished.
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Imbula
Aug 25, 2018 12:53:58 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 12:53:58 GMT
Him along with the other supposedly big talents make me laugh. It seems they don’t want to play for us however nobody wants to buy them as they really aren’t that good and have wank attitudes. Surely if they are desperate for a move you would want to play to put yourself in the shop window Placing him in the u-23s is hardly a positive advert for teams to come and sign him or a motivational gesture for the player. It suggests he is a major disruptive person, which based on my admittedly limited knowledge does not appear to be true. He may be lazy and doesn't say hello in the morning, but he is still a major talent. If we fail to loan him out and if we continue to underperform in the league we could see him yet.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 25, 2018 12:56:11 GMT
Him along with the other supposedly big talents make me laugh. It seems they don’t want to play for us however nobody wants to buy them as they really aren’t that good and have wank attitudes. Surely if they are desperate for a move you would want to play to put yourself in the shop window Placing him in the u-23s is hardly a positive advert for teams to come and sign him or a motivational gesture for the player. It suggests he is a major disruptive person, which based on my admittedly limited knowledge does not appear to be true. He may be lazy and doesn't say hello in the morning, but he is still a major talent. If we fail to loan him out and if we continue to underperform in the league we could see him yet. Talent counts for nothing without application.
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Imbula
Aug 25, 2018 12:57:14 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 12:57:14 GMT
He can't apply it if he doesn't play.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 25, 2018 12:58:48 GMT
He can't apply it if he doesn't play. Of course he can. He can in training. He can in the under 23 games. He can when he goes on loan like last season. He didn’t.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 25, 2018 13:10:54 GMT
When will we share precious moments?
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Aug 25, 2018 13:19:54 GMT
When will we share precious moments? Ahhhh....who could resist a classic "They played at Jollees" moment! ![(lol)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/lvpvZ64EmrkLcuVniUmo.gif)
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Imbula
Aug 25, 2018 13:36:51 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 13:36:51 GMT
He can't apply it if he doesn't play. Of course he can. He can in training. He can in the under 23 games. He can when he goes on loan like last season. He didn’t. You're right. He hasn't gone on loan, he doesn't play in u-23 games and he doesn't train with the first team, so "He didn't" get to apply himself.
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Imbula
Aug 25, 2018 17:55:28 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 25, 2018 17:55:28 GMT
Hope not.
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Imbula
Aug 25, 2018 17:59:45 GMT
Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 25, 2018 17:59:45 GMT
Of course he can. He can in training. He can in the under 23 games. He can when he goes on loan like last season. He didn’t. You're right. He hasn't gone on loan, he doesn't play in u-23 games and he doesn't train with the first team, so "He didn't" get to apply himself. The thing is he had loads of opportunities both here and on loan over the last two years to apply himself. He didn't. How many second chances do you want to give him? Who would you give him a chance ahead of? He's a waste of Oxygen. Get rid.
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Imbula
Aug 25, 2018 18:01:26 GMT
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Post by Veritas on Aug 25, 2018 18:01:26 GMT
You think there’s a chance he’ll be back? He’s a good talent, I just don’t think he fits in with the squad, and just needs someone to give him some assurance that he’s a good player and can do well for Stoke. No, move on.
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Imbula
Aug 25, 2018 21:08:20 GMT
Post by Linx on Aug 25, 2018 21:08:20 GMT
I had totally, utterly forgotten about Imbula. He is the new Palacios.
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Imbula
Aug 25, 2018 21:10:08 GMT
Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 25, 2018 21:10:08 GMT
How longs left on his contract? Now we're looking more stocked in midfield we need to move him on. We need to sell him if we can but that looks unlikely.
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Imbula
Aug 25, 2018 22:45:52 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 22:45:52 GMT
You're right. He hasn't gone on loan, he doesn't play in u-23 games and he doesn't train with the first team, so "He didn't" get to apply himself. The thing is he had loads of opportunities both here and on loan over the last two years to apply himself. He didn't. How many second chances do you want to give him? Who would you give him a chance ahead of? He's a waste of Oxygen. Get rid. As I said in the original message, "Placing him in the u-23s is hardly a positive advert for teams to come and sign him ." Since we have failed to "Get rid", and since we are hardly impressive in our performances, not even today, so "If we fail to loan him out and if we continue to underperform in the league we could see him yet."
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 25, 2018 22:57:57 GMT
The thing is he had loads of opportunities both here and on loan over the last two years to apply himself. He didn't. How many second chances do you want to give him? Who would you give him a chance ahead of? He's a waste of Oxygen. Get rid. As I said in the original message, "Placing him in the u-23s is hardly a positive advert for teams to come and sign him ." Since we have failed to "Get rid", and since we are hardly impressive in our performances, not even today, so "If we fail to loan him out and if we continue to underperform in the league we could see him yet." And that's the point I was making. He's had more than enough chances and I suspect we've probably given up on him. You still haven't answered under what circumstances 'we could still see him yet'? If the other 18 midfielders we've signed come down with Bubonic Plague then possibly but I'd say that is fairly unlikely. I don't think he'd improve us even then. I'd rather have Allen, Etebo, Woods, Clucas, Sorensen and yes even Adam and Fletcher all suffering from the Black Death than that fucking wastrel Imbula.
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Imbula
Aug 26, 2018 7:05:09 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2018 7:05:09 GMT
As I said in the original message, "Placing him in the u-23s is hardly a positive advert for teams to come and sign him ." Since we have failed to "Get rid", and since we are hardly impressive in our performances, not even today, so "If we fail to loan him out and if we continue to underperform in the league we could see him yet." And that's the point I was making. He's had more than enough chances and I suspect we've probably given up on him. You still haven't answered under what circumstances 'we could still see him yet'? If the other 18 midfielders we've signed come down with Bubonic Plague then possibly but I'd say that is fairly unlikely. I don't think he'd improve us even then. I'd rather have Allen, Etebo, Woods, Clucas, Sorensen and yes even Adam and Fletcher all suffering from the Black Death than that fucking wastrel Imbula. Circumstances? ""If we fail to loan him out and if we continue to underperform in the league we could see him yet." Imbula is under contract with us for at least three years - more if he has an option for another year. If we can't sell him, no one's remotely interested in borrowing him, are we then going to have him "corrupt" (if that's what he does) the Academy for a whole 3-4 seasons? At some point a line has to be drawn in the sand, and to be honest, I thought that that would happen with a manager who claimed to be willing to be giving everybody a chance. Berahino's had more chances than he has, and Berahino has acted more unprofessionally too, so with Berahino now playing three games in a row without doing what we bought him for, just why is Imbula being singled out negatively. We haven't bought 18 midfielders, and for those that we have bought we don't know yet if they will fit in. If we continue to struggle, then Imbula does have the ability to come on and change things. Just don't play him as a dm, play him with a designated dm behind him, and don't play him together with Bojan. They are very different but their role in the team is very similar.
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Post by scfc5 on Aug 26, 2018 7:40:56 GMT
We have no idea what goes on behind the scenes. Those wanting him in base it on a simple premise that he’s got talent so should be playing. What makes you assume he is this slighted character who is busting a gut in training and making the effort to integrate into the squad but being denied by a cruel manager?
Given Saido’s past and the fact that Rowett says he’s seen no evidence of that since Rowett came in, it is very clear that GR is willing to give chances to those who knuckle down. Those who don’t, or want to leave, like ECM and Ndiaye, are not involved. I suspect Imbula must be the same. That suits me fine. I don’t want someone who doesn’t want to play for the club going out there for my team. Even 5% off in application will come through in not tracking someone or going light in a tackle. Just don’t understand why people think these characters will add what we need.
I don’t want Imbula anywhere near my team. 2 different managers here, as well as at least one of his loan managers, have spotted the issues and isolated him. They are not all wrong, surely. There is even less chance he will put the hard yards in in the Championship given the work rate GR demands.
He is the biggest symbol of our shambolic recruitment over the last 3 years and will cost this club millions, for precious little return. Let’s just hope we can shift him on loan at least, to cover some of the wages.
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Imbula
Aug 26, 2018 7:49:45 GMT
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Post by slicko on Aug 26, 2018 7:49:45 GMT
Who is this Nimbula you speak of?
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Imbula
Aug 26, 2018 7:59:58 GMT
Post by darksideofthemoon on Aug 26, 2018 7:59:58 GMT
Of all the 'problem children' we have on our books, this one hurts me the most. ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/4tzqvp1fxEemag_TAXLJ.gif) In all honesty, I thought we had a serious talent on our hands with this bloke; I actually thought he might even reach the heights that N'Zonzi did, but it just goes to show what a poor judge I am. I've been hoping all along that he'd turn himself around and prove his worth to us, but sadly that's a forlorn hope. But as far as what to do with him - I simply have no idea Edit - I also thought Palacios was the best part of the Crouch/Palacios deal, too; so that just goes to show what a lousy judge I am
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Imbula
Aug 26, 2018 8:11:21 GMT
Post by lawrieleslie on Aug 26, 2018 8:11:21 GMT
The stats on this waster are eye watering........signed in Feb 2016 on a five and a half year contract for £18.3m, so he’s here until July 2021. I’m guessing he’s earning £50k a week, so that’s another £6m in wages. I’m not sure how much of his wages we paid during his loan spells, let’s say he has cost us half that in wages so £21.3m in total. He’s played 28 games for us at a cost of (gulp) £760,000 a game. It makes the Palacios stats look like pocket money.
He is the epitomy of the mercenary footballer that is a cancer in our game. Doesn’t give a shit about his own reputation, has no allegiance to his club, doesn’t care about not playing but happy to pick up his astronomical pay check every month. I don’t know how we get rid of him.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 26, 2018 8:13:26 GMT
And that's the point I was making. He's had more than enough chances and I suspect we've probably given up on him. You still haven't answered under what circumstances 'we could still see him yet'? If the other 18 midfielders we've signed come down with Bubonic Plague then possibly but I'd say that is fairly unlikely. I don't think he'd improve us even then. I'd rather have Allen, Etebo, Woods, Clucas, Sorensen and yes even Adam and Fletcher all suffering from the Black Death than that fucking wastrel Imbula. Circumstances? ""If we fail to loan him out and if we continue to underperform in the league we could see him yet." Imbula is under contract with us for at least three years - more if he has an option for another year. If we can't sell him, no one's remotely interested in borrowing him, are we then going to have him "corrupt" (if that's what he does) the Academy for a whole 3-4 seasons? At some point a line has to be drawn in the sand, and to be honest, I thought that that would happen with a manager who claimed to be willing to be giving everybody a chance. Berahino's had more chances than he has, and Berahino has acted more unprofessionally too, so with Berahino now playing three games in a row without doing what we bought him for, just why is Imbula being singled out negatively. We haven't bought 18 midfielders, and for those that we have bought we don't know yet if they will fit in. If we continue to struggle, then Imbula does have the ability to come on and change things. Just don't play him as a dm, play him with a designated dm behind him, and don't play him together with Bojan. They are very different but their role in the team is very similar. Ok mate fair enough. That's your opinion. But as far as I can see it's based on nothing more than your gut instinct. When was the last time you saw him play or even train? Whilst I don't profess to be an expert on Imbula's career it is fairly obvious that he has flattered to deceive wherever he's been. If he's so good why did Marseille offload him after only 2 years to Porto? If he's the complete midfielder why could Porto not wait to get rid to us after only SEVEN months? Yes in his first few games for us he looked like the answer to our prayers but then what? Utter dross, that's what and clearly he could be as arsed in training as much as he was on his rare foray's onto the pitch. If he's the talent to get us out of the Championship why didn't Toulouse sign him or even want him back on loan this season? Indeed why has there been not a sniff of interest this summer even though I'm sure we'd let him go at a massive loss? The answer is because he's a massive wastrel. He can't be arsed. He shown that on the pitch for us. And I suspect he shows that in training as well. There's no doubt he's got talent but he's a total useless tosser. And useless tossers are what we don't need at the moment. If we can't con some gullible foreign club into taking him off our hands I would suck the mop and pay his contract up simply to get rid of him. I certainly don't want him training with our kids corrupting them with his negativity. He represents part of what I detest about modern football. You compare him to Berahino and yes he has been (probably still is) a tosser but have you seen him recently? He runs his bollocks off for our club and by all accounts he is a model pro in training. I can live with someone who has a colourful private life (Huddy springs immediately to mind) as long as they do the business on the pitch. Perhaps Berahino has been given another chance and Imbula singled out negatively because the new manager can see that Berahino is trying his hardest to regain his form and if he carries on like he has been then goals will surely come. If Imbula were prepared to do that then I'd be prepared to accept the manager giving him another chance but he won't because he doesn't give a fuck. By the way has he managed to learn any English words yet? And of course you're right we haven't got 18 central midfielders I was being sarcastic.....we've only got 16. And you still haven't told me which of the 14 or so you'd pick Imbula ahead of and what sort of message that would send to those players, particularly the younger players like Verlinden and Sorensen? I suspect we're not going to see eye to eye on this subject and feel free to reply. I'll read your response with interest but I'm afraid I'm not going to waste any more of my time on this bone idle waste of bagging who has conned our football club out of millions.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 26, 2018 8:20:46 GMT
Of course he can. He can in training. He can in the under 23 games. He can when he goes on loan like last season. He didn’t. You're right. He hasn't gone on loan, he doesn't play in u-23 games and he doesn't train with the first team, so "He didn't" get to apply himself. He did go on loan last season and he was rubbish. What’s changed?
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Imbula
Aug 26, 2018 8:24:40 GMT
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Post by mrred on Aug 26, 2018 8:24:40 GMT
The real testament to the Hughes era. Bags of talent, 0 application.
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Imbula
Aug 26, 2018 11:59:48 GMT
Post by FullerMagic on Aug 26, 2018 11:59:48 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2018 12:12:36 GMT
Why is this useless french fuck still at the club ? still here like a festering turd.
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